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Do You Believe That a Thread Can Be Sabotaged on Purpose?

JaneMarple — Tue, 25 Jul 2017 16:24:29 GMT

I've been seeing this more and more lately. Usually it's a long and interesting thread, a party makes a snarky remark and then that post gets responses calling out that poster and voila, it's closed or poofed!

It is the thread about micro chipping that I'm referring to, it was a great thread and in my opinion deliberately ruined!

Why is that a curve ball can be thrown but when called a foul, the umpire throws out the batter for arguing the point?

Re: Do You Believe That a Thread Can Be Sabotaged on Purpose?

SaRina — Tue, 25 Jul 2017 16:34:05 GMT

The thread is still there @JaneMarple

ETA: Oh, so sorry. I didn't see a lock icon on the thread listing. However, I see there are no more Reply boxes within the thread.

To answer your question, absolutely yes, I think posters can intentionally sabotage a thread... and they do.

Re: Do You Believe That a Thread Can Be Sabotaged on Purpose?

software — Tue, 25 Jul 2017 16:31:38 GMT

@JaneMarple wrote:
I've been seeing this more and more lately. Usually it's a long and interesting thread, a party makes a snarky remark and then that post gets responses calling out that poster and voila, it's closed or poofed!

It is the thread about micro chipping that I'm referring to, it was a great thread and in my opinion deliberately ruined!

Why is that a curve ball can be thrown but when called a foul, the umpire throws out the batter for arguing the point?

I'm naive, I don't think it was deliberate but there was one poster who got up on her high horse and a few other posters took offense. And I don't blame them. The Moderating is inconsistent so who's to say what really happened. Move on.

Re: Do You Believe That a Thread Can Be Sabotaged on Purpose?

Susan-QVC — Tue, 25 Jul 2017 16:31:41 GMT

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Re: Do You Believe That a Thread Can Be Sabotaged on Purpose?

beckyb1012 — Tue, 25 Jul 2017 16:32:17 GMT

@SaRina wrote:
@The thread is still there @JaneMarple

Yes but you cannot reply. The button is now clouded, so to speak.

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Susan-QVC — Tue, 25 Jul 2017 16:32:50 GMT

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Re: Do You Believe That a Thread Can Be Sabotaged on Purpose?

JaneMarple — Tue, 25 Jul 2017 16:35:27 GMT

My point is proven!

Re: Do You Believe That a Thread Can Be Sabotaged on Purpose?

Katcat1 — Tue, 25 Jul 2017 16:38:28 GMT

Sabotagging a thread sounds like you are back in grammar school and probably the mentality of the person doing the sabotagging.

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Susan-QVC — Tue, 25 Jul 2017 16:41:14 GMT

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Re: Do You Believe That a Thread Can Be Sabotaged on Purpose?

Moonchilde — Tue, 25 Jul 2017 16:47:54 GMT

Yes, I believe people attempt to get threads taken down. But whether they succeed depends upon whether they're "fed" or not. For my own part I try hard not to allow a poster or two to "use" me and my responses to the baiting to crash the thread.

I know we can't control everyone's responses, only our own. But we can control our own - and how we handle a baiter. My POV is don't respond as they hope you will, which doesn't mean not responding at all, just don't give them anything to work with.

If you find a post egregiously out of line, report it as unkind, baiting, argumentative, off-topic or whatever and don't reply though tempted. The moderator will then see "who" the issue is without the waters being muddied, and others who read the thread will also see those who stand out as deliberately combative.

Re: Do You Believe That a Thread Can Be Sabotaged on Purpose?

Cakers3 — Tue, 25 Jul 2017 16:45:26 GMT

@JaneMarple wrote:
I've been seeing this more and more lately. Usually it's a long and interesting thread, a party makes a snarky remark and then that post gets responses calling out that poster and voila, it's closed or poofed!

It is the thread about micro chipping that I'm referring to, it was a great thread and in my opinion deliberately ruined!

Why is that a curve ball can be thrown but when called a foul, the umpire throws out the batter for arguing the point?

@JaneMarple Hon-I suggest you read your siggie. In the grand scheme of things, it just wasn't all that important.

You are not new around here-it's just the way it goes. I didn't post on the thread but I did read it and amazingly 99.9% of posters agreed. H8ll just froze over. LOL

I would prefer the posts be removed and the thread stay but I'm not the Queen of the Board around here. Alhough I should be. LMAO!

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Susan-QVC — Tue, 25 Jul 2017 16:48:04 GMT

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Re: Do You Believe That a Thread Can Be Sabotaged on Purpose?

Trinity11 — Tue, 25 Jul 2017 16:49:28 GMT

I was hoping to respond on the closed thread. It was very clear that someone decided to monopolize the thread with a differing opinion. It's one thing to disagree but another to appear to deliberately shut down all effective dialogue. This seems to be a pattern and easy to spot. It is deliberate.

Re: Do You Believe That a Thread Can Be Sabotaged on Purpose?

VanSleepy — Tue, 25 Jul 2017 16:50:05 GMT

To use your baseball analogy, the umpire doesn't want an all out brawl on the mound.

It all depends on who you are. There are many posters who are perpetually snarky and insulting, yet they get hearted by others.

Re: Do You Believe That a Thread Can Be Sabotaged on Purpose?

JaneMarple — Tue, 25 Jul 2017 16:51:22 GMT

@Trinity11 wrote:
I was hoping to respond on the closed thread. It was very clear that someone decided to monopolize the thread with a differing opinion. It's one thing to disagree but another to appear to deliberately shut down all effective dialogue. This seems to be a pattern and easy to spot. It is deliberate.

It was a very good thread and I hope it can be reopened.

Re: Do You Believe That a Thread Can Be Sabotaged on Purpose?

LyndaGee — Tue, 25 Jul 2017 16:53:37 GMT

I think it can be done by bringing up certain forbidden topics. It's like a red flag.

Re: Do You Believe That a Thread Can Be Sabotaged on Purpose?

Noel7 — Tue, 25 Jul 2017 16:58:45 GMT

YES, I DO @JaneMarple

What I don't understand is why the Mods let the few get away with it.

Instead of culling out those who are ruining it, they close or lock the entire thread.

That's unfair to everyone and reinforces the bad behavior.

Re: Do You Believe That a Thread Can Be Sabotaged on Purpose?

muttmom — Tue, 25 Jul 2017 17:08:34 GMT

It's done frequently and often times by the same posters under a variety of names.

Re: Do You Believe That a Thread Can Be Sabotaged on Purpose?

Moonchilde — Tue, 25 Jul 2017 17:18:12 GMT

@Noel7 wrote:

YES, I DO @JaneMarple

What I don't understand is why the Mods let the few get away with it.

Instead of culling out those who are ruining it, they close or lock the entire thread.

That's unfair to everyone and reinforces the bad behavior.

Because if someone comes into a thread and throws a b****-slap at someone, it's not required to return the favor. Report the person and ignore their obvious attempt to crash the thread.

The problem comes in when there are multiple posters who will fight to the death (figurative) not to keep the thread viable, but just to fight "back" at the other poster(s). I've seen threads where, when several people are slinging mud, the moderators will let it go on because people were slinging back. Hard for a participant in it to complain about the mudbath. At a certain point it becomes not about right or wrong behavior, but about joining in the behavior. At that point IMO, you "lose" the moderators being able to make a simple decision.

The threads I've seen where it was taken offline and 1-2 people's posts removed and then the thread returned to action were cases where only one person was trying to pick a fight. No one zapped back - it was just quietly reported and poofed. But if the moderators don't have time to wade through a page of nastiness, I see why they just wipe it out or shut it down.

Re: Do You Believe That a Thread Can Be Sabotaged on Purpose?

SeaMaiden — Tue, 25 Jul 2017 17:21:22 GMT

It is usually the threads about hosts....theymight start out as a compliment to the host and someone decides to throw a wrench in the wheel and turn the thread ugly bashing the host. I say start your own thread about the subject if what you want to say is 360 degrees from the subject the original poster started.