topic Re: Smokers in Community Chat

Smokers

makena — Wed, 19 Jul 2017 00:17:33 GMT

Disgust me. They won't put their butts out in their car but they will flick it out their window so it blows back on the car behind them and litters the roads, or they won't smoke in their house but they come out in the yard and stink up the air. And if you're lucky enough to have a window fan, it sucks it right in so you get to smell it.

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SeaMaiden — Wed, 19 Jul 2017 00:26:14 GMT

I just feel pity for them....they are killing themselves puff by puff....they have a death wish. So sad.🚭

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Noel7 — Wed, 19 Jul 2017 00:26:58 GMT

@makena wrote:
Disgust me. They won't put their butts out in their car but they will flick it out their window so it blows back on the car behind them and litters the roads, or they won't smoke in their house but they come out in the yard and stink up the air. And if you're lucky enough to have a window fan, it sucks it right in so you get to smell it.

It's not credible when you stereotype an entire group.

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Noel7 — Wed, 19 Jul 2017 00:30:03 GMT

@SeaMaiden wrote:
I just feel pity for them....they are killing themselves puff by puff....they have a death wish. So sad.🚭

Most smokers start young, peer pressure, etc.

Cigarettes contain addictive additives. Most people don't know that. They don't have a death wish, they are addicts.

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MaRina — Wed, 19 Jul 2017 00:30:28 GMT

I think thrown cigarette butts should be considered littering and that one should be fined. I've seen where someone has emptied their ashtray out on the ground with trash cans close.

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suzyQ3 — Wed, 19 Jul 2017 00:35:14 GMT

Both my parents died of smoke-related diseases. We had our problems, but they didn't disgust me. They were addicted.

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QueenDanceALot — Wed, 19 Jul 2017 00:37:14 GMT

@MaRina wrote:
I think thrown cigarette butts should be considered littering and that one should be fined. I've seen where someone has emptied their ashtray out on the ground with trash cans close.

I see this a lot.

Why don't smokers think their butts are trash? Do they throw their Burger King bags out the car window too?

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Juniper2 — Wed, 19 Jul 2017 00:40:45 GMT

Some of the nicest people I know are smokers and they go out of their way not to inconvenience others with their habit, which they know is frowned upon.

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loveschocolate — Wed, 19 Jul 2017 00:40:56 GMT

@QueenDanceALot, in my area they do! 😜

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jewel3 — Wed, 19 Jul 2017 00:46:06 GMT

Putting butts anywhere but the trash is illegal in California and probably most other places. They travel through the storm sewers and pollute San Francisco Bay and other waterways. Thank goodness it is also illegal to stand right outside buildings on the sidewalk and smoke and illegal to smoke on the balconies of apartments and condos and within 30 feet of someone else's home. That leaves inside one's one home or in the middle of the street.

addiction is terrible but second hand smoke harming innocent bystanders is worse.

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QueenDanceALot — Wed, 19 Jul 2017 00:47:45 GMT

@suzyQ3 wrote:
Both my parents died of smoke-related diseases. We had our problems, but they didn't disgust me. They were addicted.

Same for my parents.

I still get angry when I see people throw their butts out the car window or drop it on the street, though.

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WenGirl42 — Wed, 19 Jul 2017 00:47:54 GMT

@QueenDanceALot wrote:
@MaRina wrote:
I think thrown cigarette butts should be considered littering and that one should be fined. I've seen where someone has emptied their ashtray out on the ground with trash cans close.
I see this a lot.

Why don't smokers think their butts are trash? Do they throw their Burger King bags out the car window too?

I see this a lot also. I think it should be considered worse than littering, because most of those BK bags are not smoldering when disposed of

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QueenDanceALot — Wed, 19 Jul 2017 00:48:36 GMT

@loveschocolate wrote:
@QueenDanceALot, in my area they do! 😜

Oy.

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Noel7 — Wed, 19 Jul 2017 00:53:56 GMT

Companies making cigarettes knew they could kill but they kept it a secret for a long time. After several years of lies of omission, many in an entire generation were addicted.

Have people seen Mad Men? Did you notice how important smoking and drinking was to that generation?

They didn't have a death wish, they were addicted.

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WenGirl42 — Wed, 19 Jul 2017 00:51:22 GMT

@Noel7 wrote:
Companies making cigarettes knew they could kill but they kept it a secret for a long time. After several years of lies of omission, many in an entire generation were addicted.

Have people seen Mad Men? Did you notice how important smoking ans drinking was to that generation?

They didn't have a death wish, they were addicted.

This is true. But anyone currently in their 30s or younger has always known the dangers. Nothing has been able to be hidden for years.

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Azcowgirl — Wed, 19 Jul 2017 00:52:42 GMT

I'm at the end of a dead end road, yet some nincompoop, walks down the road and throws their butts over my gate into my yard ! Grrrrrrr ):

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QueenDanceALot — Wed, 19 Jul 2017 00:53:12 GMT

I have some friends who still smoke and it's hard for me to be around them, even though they try to be very considerate and "only" smoke outside. I still have to sit a good distance from them if I don't want to be hit by the smoke (which I don't), and I end up feeling really jerky about that, even though I shouldn't. I sometimes end up feeling like I'm being judgemental, when all I want is to breathe smoke free air and not stink of cigarettes when I get home.

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faeriemoon — Wed, 19 Jul 2017 00:54:08 GMT

@Juniper2 wrote:
Some of the nicest people I know are smokers and they go out of their way not to inconvenience others with their habit, which they know is frowned upon.

And I find most of them rude and inconsiderate, and they are annoyed at all the new smoking laws.

It is a filthy and disgusting habit, and it is harmful to people who breathe their disgusting second hand smoke (whether indoors or outdoors.)

I have no pity for them.

My father was a smoker and I gagged my way through childhood.

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MaRina — Wed, 19 Jul 2017 00:57:37 GMT

@WenGirl42 wrote:
@QueenDanceALot wrote:
@MaRina wrote:
I think thrown cigarette butts should be considered littering and that one should be fined. I've seen where someone has emptied their ashtray out on the ground with trash cans close.
I see this a lot.

Why don't smokers think their butts are trash? Do they throw their Burger King bags out the car window too?

I see this a lot also. I think it should be considered worse than littering, because most of those BK bags are not smoldering when disposed of

Exactly!

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Noel7 — Wed, 19 Jul 2017 01:01:46 GMT

@WenGirl42 wrote:
@Noel7 wrote:
Companies making cigarettes knew they could kill but they kept it a secret for a long time. After several years of lies of omission, many in an entire generation were addicted.

Have people seen Mad Men? Did you notice how important smoking ans drinking was to that generation?

They didn't have a death wish, they were addicted.
This is true. But anyone currently in their 30s or younger has always known the dangers. Nothing has been able to be hidden for years.

I was referring to the generation Suzy mentioned. It's a different situation for the younger generation, largely cultural.

The Bay Area has very few smokers. It's culturally unacceptable and there are strict laws against smoking anywhere except your own home.

Other areas could make that happen, also.