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Australian Bride-To-Be Shot While Reporting Possible Crime

Noel7 — Mon, 17 Jul 2017 16:28:05 GMT

This is outrageous. The woman called police to report a possible assault behind her building. She was in her pajamas, at the police car when one of the police shot and killed her.

"Three people 'with knowledge of the incident' told the Star Tribune that the responding officers pulled into the alley behind Damond’s home. The woman, wearing pajamas, approached the driver’s side door and was talking to the driver, reported the Star Tribune. The officer in the passenger seat shot Damond through the driver’s side door, the three people told the newspaper."

The officers are required to wear cameras but neither of them had their's turned on.

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GSPgirl — Mon, 17 Jul 2017 16:17:08 GMT

We don't know the whole story.....do we? This is a real problem we have in America. It makes the news before it can truly be investigated. We are quick to blame before all the facts come out. I just can't get emotional, if all the facts haven't been presented.

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CrazyDaisy — Mon, 17 Jul 2017 16:15:17 GMT

Not enough information provided to form an opinion

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Noel7 — Mon, 17 Jul 2017 16:18:32 GMT

We know they didn't have their cameras on.

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game-on — Mon, 17 Jul 2017 16:19:21 GMT

@Noel7....I read this earlier and thought "what"? I know we have some unbelievable shootings here in our country.... I guess we are not the only place, huh?

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Noel7 — Mon, 17 Jul 2017 16:20:59 GMT

The bride-to-be, Justine Damond:

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CrazyDaisy — Mon, 17 Jul 2017 16:22:25 GMT

@Noel7 wrote:
We know they didn't have their cameras on.

OK, are they required to have them on while still in the car?

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WenGirl42 — Mon, 17 Jul 2017 16:23:05 GMT

@game-on wrote:
@Noel7....I read this earlier and thought "what"? I know we have some unbelievable shootings here in our country.... I guess we are not the only place, huh?

@game-on This happened in Minneapolis, MN.

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Noel7 — Mon, 17 Jul 2017 16:23:24 GMT

@game-on wrote:
@Noel7....I read this earlier and thought "what"? I know we have some unbelievable shootings here in our country.... I guess we are not the only place, huh?

Hi @game-on

The couple was from Australia but living here,

It happened in Minneapolis.

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Marp — Mon, 17 Jul 2017 16:24:42 GMT

@game-on wrote:
@Noel7....I read this earlier and thought "what"? I know we have some unbelievable shootings here in our country.... I guess we are not the only place, huh?

This incident took place this weekend in Minneapolis.

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goldensrbest — Mon, 17 Jul 2017 16:24:48 GMT

We get breaking news,on qvc!!

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Pearlee — Mon, 17 Jul 2017 16:25:29 GMT

@Noel7 Why does the title say "to be shot" as if it didn't yet happen? Wanna fix that? (if you edit your first post you can edit the title)

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Noel7 — Mon, 17 Jul 2017 16:25:36 GMT

@CrazyDaisy wrote:
@Noel7 wrote:
We know they didn't have their cameras on.
OK, are they required to have them on while still in the car?

Yes, at all times from what I've read, especially when with a citizen.

The squad car camera was apparently off, also.

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WenGirl42 — Mon, 17 Jul 2017 16:27:50 GMT

@Pearlee wrote:
@Noel7 Why does the title say "to be shot" as if it didn't yet happen? Wanna fix that? (if you edit your first post you can edit the title)

It doesn't. It identifies the woman as a bride to be.

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CrazyDaisy — Mon, 17 Jul 2017 16:28:23 GMT

@Noel7 wrote:
@CrazyDaisy wrote:
@Noel7 wrote:
We know they didn't have their cameras on.
OK, are they required to have them on while still in the car?

Yes, at all times from what I've read, especially when with a citizen.

The squad car camera was apparently off, also.

I've read body cams turned on when leaving patrol car when they leave the patrol car.

Guess all the facts are not available yet.

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Noel7 — Mon, 17 Jul 2017 16:29:26 GMT

@Pearlee wrote:
@Noel7 Why does the title say "to be shot" as if it didn't yet happen? Wanna fix that? (if you edit your first post you can edit the title)

OK, hyphenated for clarity @Pearlee Thanks.

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WenGirl42 — Mon, 17 Jul 2017 16:30:36 GMT

@Noel7 wrote:
@CrazyDaisy wrote:
@Noel7 wrote:
We know they didn't have their cameras on.
OK, are they required to have them on while still in the car?

Yes, at all times from what I've read, especially when with a citizen.

The squad car camera was apparently off, also.

I agree, @Noel7. The department body camera policy appears to require officers to turn them on before responding to a call and certainly before engaging with an individual as part of that call. It's troubling that none of the cameras were on, which could have given a clear and accurate picture of the chain of events leading to this woman's death.

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Trinity11 — Mon, 17 Jul 2017 16:33:21 GMT

I tend to wait for more information in cases like this. Has law enforcement given any information as to why they shot her? I did read they were put on leave until further investigation.

Did their gun go off by mistake. I simply cannot understand the why of shooting her without a lot more details than those given.

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Noel7 — Mon, 17 Jul 2017 16:37:42 GMT

From The Star Tribune: Minneapolis police release final bodycam policy

June 30, 2016

The guidelines address when officers would record police-citizen interactions and how that data would be stored. Under the new plan, sworn officers would be required to turn on the devices during all traffic and suspicious-person stops, car chases and searches, in addition to any use of force.

Gov. Mark Dayton signed a bill last month that would restrict most bodycam video from public review. Video showing a discharge of a firearm or use of force that results in substantial bodily harm would still be released after an investigation is closed.

Audio and video collected by MPD during “significant incidents,” including those that result in death or great bodily harm, felony crimes, squad accidents and domestic abuse interviews will be saved for at least seven years. General recordings and petty misdemeanors will be saved for just one year.

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Noel7 — Mon, 17 Jul 2017 16:42:26 GMT

@Trinity11 wrote:
I tend to wait for more information in cases like this. Has law enforcement given any information as to why they shot her? I did read they were put on leave until further investigation.

Did their gun go off by mistake. I simply cannot understand the why of shooting her without a lot more details than those given.

IMO there are way too many shootings of innocent people and dogs.

Some shootings are by rookies, which indicates to me their training is not adequate OR the departments are accepting recruits who are unsuited for the job.