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Our twisted society

KathyPet — Mon, 10 Jul 2017 09:32:00 GMT

There is something seriously wrong with a society that considers it acceptable to pay someone $170 million dollars over 4 years to throw a basketball through a hoop and then have the team that is involved Post glowing press releases about it like this is,something to be proud of. I am glad I am old and probably will not live long enough to see the downfall of a country that considers this sort of obscenity to be normal.

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Kim-QVC — Mon, 10 Jul 2017 10:16:44 GMT

This post has been removed by QVC because it is political.

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Sweet_Serenity — Mon, 10 Jul 2017 10:39:06 GMT

Sports is *BIG* money operations. Do agree lacking morality. Give example-Michael Vick crime against dogs. Slap on the wrist prison time for one. He was allowed back to play make millions. Omg!!! Rancher saved the remaining pit bulls, then after months working with the dogs placed in loving homes. He's the hero in this tragic story. Honestly! Every time think of MV want to throw up! This is no different. Sandusky another example. Head coach statue removed. Imagine his legacy, Not remembered for the work he did over fifty years coaching, When thought of people will say disgusting man covered for sexual pervert. Possibly in time system will change. Look what happened with "Sea world" thankfully public opinion made the difference. Sports has its place in bringing entertainment. Yes, There are many fine examples of players who devote time and money helping children and the less fortunate. Hero's give back.

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ValuSkr — Mon, 10 Jul 2017 11:18:50 GMT

Well, it's a free market. Professional athetes are entertainers and Americans like to be entertained. Entertainers are paid what the market bears. I guess if Americans had less disposable income they wouldn't pay as much for entertainment and we wouldn't see such exorbitant salaries.

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Peaches McPhee — Mon, 10 Jul 2017 11:59:14 GMT

I agree 100%, but I have come to understand this issue this way:

Sports stars are valued not by their contribution to society, but by thieir ability to bring $$ to the team ownership. The owners are willing to pay $X million to a player, because they can generate $X+Y mlllion in revenue. Spend money to make money.

It is not that way witih other professions. Other workers are a drain on the company coffers, not a $$ generater.

It has nnothing to do with "value" in terms of value to society.

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151949 — Mon, 10 Jul 2017 12:44:36 GMT

WE are valued in our society not by our contribution to society but by our ability to make money for our employer. I was a critical care nurse. I know that I saved hundreds of lives thru the coarse of my career but in Pittsburgh there is a glut of nurses - there are several colleges turning out thousands of new nurses each year, thus nurses in Pitts are poorly paid. On the other hand my DH worked in sales. He was hard working, and made commission. His income was 4 times mine. He sold motors for a living - I saved lives. Go figure.

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Mominohio — Mon, 10 Jul 2017 13:15:42 GMT

Bottom line is money.

As long as John Q. Public keeps buying tickets to watch, buys the products that the athlete endorses, keeps filling those stadiums with fans that buy the food, drink and shirts, the franchises will pay the big money.

Like everything else that gets changed, it starts with the individuals funding it....and that is sports fans in this instance. If 'we' don't watch, attend or support, the pay would come into line.

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jaxs mom — Mon, 10 Jul 2017 13:35:38 GMT

@KathyPet wrote:
There is something seriously wrong with a society that considers it acceptable to pay someone $170 million dollars over 4 years to throw a basketball through a hoop and then have the team that is involved Post glowing press releases about it like this is,something to be proud of. I am glad I am old and probably will not live long enough to see the downfall of a country that considers this sort of obscenity to be normal.

So when a sports team makes hundreds of millions of dollars in merchandising, distribution and ticket sales the owner is just supposed to keep all the money? The players shouldn't get paid proportionately well?

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tansy — Mon, 10 Jul 2017 13:50:58 GMT

What steams me is that the team owners blackmail cities to pay for their stadiums.

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dex — Mon, 10 Jul 2017 14:01:22 GMT

I agree that the world is turned upside down.Intelligent people working to make our lives better,safer,easier,healthier are paid less and not notable while our entertainers get all of the riches and accolades.I think there has become too much emphasis on sports and not enough on education.....not going to keep America great.

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sunshine45 — Mon, 10 Jul 2017 14:08:48 GMT

@Peaches McPhee wrote:
I agree 100%, but I have come to understand this issue this way:

Sports stars are valued not by their contribution to society, but by thieir ability to bring $$ to the team ownership. The owners are willing to pay $X million to a player, because they can generate $X+Y mlllion in revenue. Spend money to make money.

It is not that way witih other professions. Other workers are a drain on the company coffers, not a $$ generater.

It has nnothing to do with "value" in terms of value to society.

it isnt just about making money for their team and the owners, it is also about providing jobs for OTHERS in their cities AND helping other types of businesses prosper from their sports teams......bars, restaurants, parking faciliies, hotels, public transportation, and more.....

ask people what it feels like or how devastating it is to lose a popular sports team in their city.........

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KathyPet — Mon, 10 Jul 2017 14:28:23 GMT

I do agree that paying these,obscene amounts of money are a means to a end which is then to earn the team owners a obscene amount of money. This is a perfect example of why I dispise professional sports so much. It is not the love of the game. It is the love of the $$

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chrystaltree — Mon, 10 Jul 2017 14:40:35 GMT

It's Capitalism and a free market society. It's not perfect but the opposite, Communism didn't work out so well.

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proudlyfromNJ — Mon, 10 Jul 2017 14:41:52 GMT

I can't wait for football season to start.

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12andcounting — Mon, 10 Jul 2017 15:19:02 GMT

@KathyPet wrote:
There is something seriously wrong with a society that considers it acceptable to pay someone $170 million dollars over 4 years to throw a basketball through a hoop and then have the team that is involved Post glowing press releases about it like this is,something to be proud of. I am glad I am old and probably will not live long enough to see the downfall of a country that considers this sort of obscenity to be normal.

@KathyPet

I TOTALLY, TOTALLY agree with your post. Our society has become so twisted and sick it's incomprehensible -- and so very, very sad.

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JaneMarple — Mon, 10 Jul 2017 15:19:15 GMT

@KathyPet wrote:
There is something seriously wrong with a society that considers it acceptable to pay someone $170 million dollars over 4 years to throw a basketball through a hoop and then have the team that is involved Post glowing press releases about it like this is,something to be proud of. I am glad I am old and probably will not live long enough to see the downfall of a country that considers this sort of obscenity to be normal.

Hmmm, atletes are no worse than highly paid actors, how do you feel about them @KathyPet?

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SeaMaiden — Mon, 10 Jul 2017 15:20:39 GMT

It is no different than the Kardashians making millions and millions doing NOTHING. It is free enterprise.... that is America. Take it or not.

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occasionalrain — Mon, 10 Jul 2017 16:18:59 GMT

There is nothing obscene about it. The less there is of something, whether a gem, ocean front, or people with a wanted talent, the more valuable that something is. While some may not value those who consistently sink basketballs, enough do to make it valuable.

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Twins Mom — Mon, 10 Jul 2017 16:27:00 GMT

Blackmailing cities fir better stadiums while pocketing more profits while seeing cities struggling to provide basic necessities is super disturbing. Let's not forget that many of these players are exempt from the earning taxes in cities where the stadium custodians, clerks, etc have to have that deducted from their pay. More mergers and acquisitions- great for upper management but little thought to worker bees. Back whike I studied social studies I remember the "fact" that monopolies were prohibited in order to protect society. It's understood that not everyone can be talented and gifted in special ways, but many individuals do great works to keep businesses and institutions running. They don't deserve to be taken advantage of.

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itiswhatitis — Mon, 10 Jul 2017 16:30:30 GMT

@twins mom wrote:
Blackmailing cities fir better stadiums while pocketing more profits while seeing cities struggling to provide basic necessities is super disturbing. Let's not forget that many of these players are exempt from the earning taxes in cities where the stadium custodians, clerks, etc have to have that deducted from their pay. More mergers and acquisitions- great for upper management but little thought to worker bees. Back whike I studied social studies I remember the "fact" that monopolies were prohibited in order to protect society. It's understood that not everyone can be talented and gifted in special ways, but many individuals do great works to keep businesses and institutions running. They don't deserve to be taken advantage of.

Welp @Twins Mom, how about when a Mayor or Governor begs a team to stay? Even offer them incentives to do so? Those stadiums generate revenue and someone is getting big time money on the tax of the property itself.

THINK!!!!!!!