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AMAZON HAS RETAILERS ON THE RUN

Shanus — Fri, 07 Jul 2017 12:57:31 GMT

Amazon recently purchased WholeFoods. That's where I usually shop, so I have no idea what affect that will have on the stores.

Now QVC and HSN are supposedly banding together to be able to compete w/ Amazon & Amazon Prime.

Amazon obviously has a plan in place to get orders out quickly at the lowest prices. There's also no shipping and free returns (?). Can QVC compete with that when their website isn't up so often? Don't think so. A leopard can't change its spots.

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jaxs mom — Fri, 07 Jul 2017 13:01:10 GMT

According to who are QVC nd HSN banding together to compete with Amazon Prime? Link to your source? Yes we all know that the parent company of QVC is buying HSN, but where does it say that the reason is to compete with Amazon?

Personally I don't see how the QVC parent company buying HSN has anything to do with Amazon or Prime. Amazons business model has no relation to QVC or HSNs business model.

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Shanus — Fri, 07 Jul 2017 13:13:19 GMT

@jaxs mom wrote:
According to who are QVC nd HSN banding together to compete with Amazon Prime? Link to your source? Yes we all know that the parent company of QVC is buying HSN, but where does it say that the reason is to compete with Amazon?

Personally I don't see how the QVC parent company buying HSN has anything to do with Amazon or Prime. Amazons business model has no relation to QVC or HSNs business model.

I'm the source. IMO, Amazon can't be beat for price and service. Companies are trying to compete and copy their way of doing business. Their success is causing retailers (B&M and shopping channels and websites) to evaluate their relationship with consumers.

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brandiwine — Fri, 07 Jul 2017 13:14:01 GMT

According to our local FOX news station QVC and HSN made far less than expected last year. The Q in the 8 billion mark and HSN at the 3 billion mark. As with any merger or buyout, they will cut operating costs. I would imagiine it will result in lower quality and higher prices for consumers.

I've been using Amazon for years now. Free shipping for the most part and free returns. Their CS is fantastic. Perhaps it's the beginning of the end for home shopping channels.

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Sunshine Kate — Fri, 07 Jul 2017 13:19:54 GMT

@brandiwine wrote:
According to our local FOX news station QVC and HSN made far less than expected last year. The Q in the 8 billion mark and HSN at the 3 billion mark. As with any merger or buyout, they will cut operating costs. I would imagiine it will result in lower quality and higher prices for consumers.
I've been using Amazon for years now. Free shipping for the most part and free returns. Their CS is fantastic. Perhaps it's the beginning of the end for home shopping channels.

I can't image lower quality items offered. You mean it could get lower?

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Nataliesgramma — Fri, 07 Jul 2017 13:35:39 GMT

I know I am shopping more at Amazon and so is my daughter...she buys all her Cricut supplies online

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Trix — Fri, 07 Jul 2017 13:36:59 GMT

Keeping this conversation confined to the present climate of retail as it pertains to home shopping televison networks, what has to be taken into account is that 30, 40 years ago the aspect of shopping from home was limited to catalogues; the occasional 3 to 5-minute ad where you could call to order the product; and in the 70s, the introduction of the 30-min. infomercial. The infomercial is really the ancestor of the television shopping network. When full time television shopping networks came on the scene, being able to see products modeled and demonstrated live on TV was unique. The convenience of having it delivered to the home, as opposed to having to go out and shop for it, was appealing too. Fast forward to present, and with the internet (not only Amazon, but every other existing brick and mortar retailer, and others who operate only online), TV shopping isn't so unique nor has a convenience advantage over retail competitors. I think that more than anything else is what has impacted business at the electronic shopping networks. They're business model and goals are not the same as Amazon's, so the two are not in direct competion from that perspective.

Can the slippage in TV shopping sales be reversed? Maybe, but without looking at their internal sales data which reflects what is and isn't working for them, I prefer not to get into wild guess proposals about what may help. I will say the continued hiring of bird chirpy voiced young host isn't one of the solutions. I saw a new host with Courtney on Inspired Style last night and between the two I didn't last ten minutes into the show. The goofy silly, isn't this fun, hosting style also isn't a solution. People say they don't want dull hosts, but maybe it is time the powers that be pulled back on some of the silliness, and got back to more indepth product presentations.

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SharkE — Fri, 07 Jul 2017 13:42:14 GMT

For a reason

They're the best. They keep you up to date on tracking. Will intercede on your behalf, if there's a problem, fast shp, processing of your order doesn't take 3 days to 5 days. All my stuff is processed no later then the next business day. Website is easy to use, etc.

Got my trade.

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Imaoldhippie — Fri, 07 Jul 2017 13:47:12 GMT

QVC cant even compete with the small Evine network let alone Amazon. QVC is slipping fast.

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Shanus — Fri, 07 Jul 2017 13:50:24 GMT

@Trix wrote:
Keeping this conversation confined to the present climate of retail as it pertains to home shopping televison networks, what has to be taken into account is that 30, 40 years ago the aspect of shopping from home was limited to catalogues; the occasional 3 to 5-minute ad where you could call to order the product; and in the 70s, the introduction of the 30-min. infomercial. The infomercial is really the ancestor of the television shopping network. When full time television shopping networks came on the scene, being able to see products modeled and demonstrated live on TV was unique. The convenience of having it delivered to the home, as opposed to having to go out and shop for it, was appealing too. Fast forward to present, and with the internet (not only Amazon, but every other existing brick and mortar retailer, and others who operate only online), TV shopping isn't so unique nor has a convenience advantage over retail competitors. I think that more than anything else is what has impacted business at the electronic shopping networks. They're business model and goals are not the same as Amazon's, so the two are not in direct competion from that perspective.

Can the slippage in TV shopping sales be reversed? Maybe, but without looking at their internal sales data which reflects what is and isn't working for them, I prefer not to get into wild guess proposals about what may help. I will say the continued hiring of bird chirpy voiced young host isn't one of the solutions. I saw a new host with Courtney on Inspired Style last night and between the two I didn't last ten minutes into the show. The goofy silly, isn't this fun, hosting style also isn't a solution. People say they don't want dull hosts, but maybe it is time the powers that be pulled back on some of the silliness, and got back to more indepth product presentations.

@Trix Two hours of Inspired Style? One hour devoted to segments trying to promote TSV.

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Carmie — Fri, 07 Jul 2017 14:22:24 GMT

Amazon also has their employees on the run too. It's not the best place to work. Imagine trying to pick, pack and load all of the merchandise within hours of it being ordered.

Their employee turnover rate is high. People quit because of stress and many are fired for low production. They work 10 hour days when it is too hot and when it is too cold.

Here in PA, they had to take people to the hospital in ambulances in droves because they had heat stroke and they still made the employees who were still standing up work.

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Pearlee — Fri, 07 Jul 2017 14:21:16 GMT

@Shanus wrote:
@jaxs mom wrote:
According to who are QVC nd HSN banding together to compete with Amazon Prime? Link to your source? Yes we all know that the parent company of QVC is buying HSN, but where does it say that the reason is to compete with Amazon?

Personally I don't see how the QVC parent company buying HSN has anything to do with Amazon or Prime. Amazons business model has no relation to QVC or HSNs business model.
I'm the source. IMO, Amazon can't be beat for price and service. Companies are trying to compete and copy their way of doing business. Their success is causing retailers (B&M and shopping channels and websites) to evaluate their relationship with consumers.

Just as I thought. Sigh.

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SeaMaiden — Fri, 07 Jul 2017 14:24:11 GMT

No. QVC will never compete with Amazon.... QVC will get lost in Amazon's dust.

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Trinity11 — Fri, 07 Jul 2017 14:42:48 GMT

Maybe if QVC had Prime, orders would be more quickly shipped. After all, they do charge $99.

One issue I have with Amazon are their 3rd party vendors. I have received used shoes, opened beauty products and far more mishaps with delivery than with QVC.

Just a different perspective....

edited for spelling

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Lucky Charm — Fri, 07 Jul 2017 15:22:24 GMT

@Carmie wrote:
Amazon also has their employees on the run too. It's not the best place to work. Imagine trying to pick, pack and load all of the merchandise within hours of it being ordered.

Their employee turnover rate is high. People quit because of stress and many are fired for low production. They work 10 hour days when it is too hot and when it is too cold.

Here in PA, they had to take people to the hospital in ambulances in droves because they had heat stroke and they still made the employees who were still standing up work.

Please tell me this isn't true----someone....anyone????

I've never ordered from Amazon, but do shop at WF.

Don't want to see quality go down for the sake of quantity. Will walk away, if so --fast....because I can.

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millieshops — Fri, 07 Jul 2017 15:22:42 GMT

@Trinity11I no longer bother ordering from Amazon from any third party vendors. I don't even like what I've read in the news about how Amazon treats them nor how they back them (not always!) I don't need all that much from Amazon, so this works well for me.

Amazon works best for customers who order more often than I do. For what I've been buying most for the past several years, QVC has saved me literally hundreds of dollars compared to the same items from Amazon. I do love my Perricone and QVC's TSV have been incredible for that line of skincare.

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Spurt — Fri, 07 Jul 2017 16:30:41 GMT

Well I think Amazon may have bitten off more than they can handle by getting into the grocery business to add to their retail, and their electronic division..........Walmart did the same and found out it's grocery shoppers found better bargains and selection in other stores and what they gained in groceries they lost in other departments, people went to other stores to shop (especially apparel of all things)......And Walmart did close some of it's Sam's Stores, so even "mighty" WalMart experienced declines when they put their effots on one side of the retail business but they lost in another sector..............I think one of these days Amazon is going too far in expansion and then start to decline.......They have a rather odd business model not typical for retail where they dont save for bad times and just reinvest what they make.....if the economy turns, watch out!

https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbesinsights/2015/02/24/walmarts-7-billion-gift-to-kohls/2/#7e3844684b49

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Carmie — Fri, 07 Jul 2017 16:58:30 GMT

@Lucky Charm wrote:
@Carmie wrote:
Amazon also has their employees on the run too. It's not the best place to work. Imagine trying to pick, pack and load all of the merchandise within hours of it being ordered.

Their employee turnover rate is high. People quit because of stress and many are fired for low production. They work 10 hour days when it is too hot and when it is too cold.

Here in PA, they had to take people to the hospital in ambulances in droves because they had heat stroke and they still made the employees who were still standing up work.

Please tell me this isn't true----someone....anyone????

I've never ordered from Amazon, but do shop at WF.

Don't want to see quality go down for the sake of quantity. Will walk away, if so --fast....because I can.

Oh, it is very true. Google it. The worse was at their Allentown, PA warehouse. OSHA had to get involved because of employee safety. We have several warehouses around where I live. I know many people who work there. Their wages are not too bad and the benefits are good, but many people are in fear of their jobs.

You have a quota to fill and if you can't make it, you are gone. They work with no heat and no AC. The warehouses are huge and not insulated.

Everyone is on the same break schedule. ( you go to break and lunch ( when the whistle blows) and you must clock out, then go through security that is like TSA with x-rays. Hundreds of people are queued up after they clock out to get through security, wasting break and lunch time. That means many people do not get a full 15 minute break or a full lunch hour.

There has been a lot of talk about employee rights or lack of rights.

Thankfully, they are always hiring. Anyone's needing a job quickly can find one there. They are a big employer and as long as people need to work, they can do what they want to.

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Katcat1 — Fri, 07 Jul 2017 17:01:11 GMT

I very seldom shop at Amazon. I have found that you receive more free shipping for the same item from EBay.

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Puppy Lips — Fri, 07 Jul 2017 17:03:05 GMT

@Lucky Charm wrote:
@Carmie wrote:
Amazon also has their employees on the run too. It's not the best place to work. Imagine trying to pick, pack and load all of the merchandise within hours of it being ordered.

Their employee turnover rate is high. People quit because of stress and many are fired for low production. They work 10 hour days when it is too hot and when it is too cold.

Here in PA, they had to take people to the hospital in ambulances in droves because they had heat stroke and they still made the employees who were still standing up work.

Please tell me this isn't true----someone....anyone????

I've never ordered from Amazon, but do shop at WF.

Don't want to see quality go down for the sake of quantity. Will walk away, if so --fast....because I can.

I have also seen news stories that say that Amazon is a tough place to work at -- very stressful, with supervisors on your back all the time.