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Orlando: Workplace rage incident

sidsmom — Mon, 05 Jun 2017 20:48:53 GMT

I'm surprised this isn't even a blip on the news radar.

This morning, 5 people were murdered as a result workplace rage.

Ten-twenty years ago this would've been a big deal.

Today? Not so much. =:/

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(CNN)The gunman in Monday's fatal shooting spree at an Orlando, Florida, business targeted his victims and had a "negative relationship" with at least one of them, Orlando County Sheriff Jerry Demings said.

"He was certainly singling out the individuals he shot," Demings told reporters Monday afternoon.

Police say he killed five employees of Fiamma Inc. before killing himself.
The gunman was identified as John Robert Neumann, Jr.

He was fired in April by Fiamma Inc., which makes accessories for recreational vehicles.

Monday morning, he pointed his gun at a new, temporary employee and told her to leave, Demings said.

Demings named the victims as Robert Snyder, 69; Brenda Motanez-Crespo, 44; Kevin Clark, 53; Kevin Lawson, 46; and Jeffrey Roberts, 57.

Neumann lived alone and had no family in the area, Demings said. He was an Army veteran who was honorably discharged in 1999.

Police responded to the call about 8 a.m. in an industrial area northeast of downtown.

Three men and a woman were found dead at the scene, Demings said. Another man died at Orlando Regional Medical Center.

"Most of the victims were shot in the head," Demings said. "Some were shot multiple times."

Eight other people were inside the business when the shootings took place, he said.

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golding76 — Mon, 05 Jun 2017 20:51:28 GMT

What a godless world we have.

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chrystaltree — Mon, 05 Jun 2017 20:53:31 GMT

It's been all over the news. I think we're all just numb now. People just don't have the strength to talk about it anymore.

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Pandalady — Mon, 05 Jun 2017 20:57:31 GMT

I saw this on the news today. So scary and sad. Prayers for all of the families of victims and the survivors in Orlando for this tragedy and the tragedies that happened in their city June, 2016.

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sidsmom — Mon, 05 Jun 2017 21:01:03 GMT

I was out of pocket this morning...must have made the news

rounds then. CNN just now did a 20-second recap.

I retract my 'blip' statement.

Before starting this thread, I researched the term

'going postal' to signify workplace rage.

Does everyone remember that Oklahoma post office incident?

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Mominohio — Mon, 05 Jun 2017 21:00:23 GMT

Things like this are becoming an every day occurrence, and people are simply becoming numb to it all.

I think many of these 'smaller' events only hit most people when it happens close to home.

It seems the despair/outrage is being reserved for the more large scale events, where there is a larger loss.

IT is all a sad fact that we are now living with. And I don't think there will be any going back from it.

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truffle — Mon, 05 Jun 2017 21:02:02 GMT

While I detest what he did, I also detest the snarky comments from his former employer that he was a disgruntled employee as if there was nothing more to the story. We will never know why he was fired...what infraction he committed, etc.

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Kachina624 — Mon, 05 Jun 2017 21:03:04 GMT

I was on eBay over the weekend looking at handbags and saw a bunch that had a holster pocket for a pistol. Maybe we should all arm ourselves..... just in case. Let's face it, we are all so vulnerable most of the time.

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Pandalady — Mon, 05 Jun 2017 21:05:08 GMT

@sidsmom wrote:
I was out of pocket this morning...must have made the news
rounds then. CNN just now did a 20-second recap.
I retract my 'blip' statement.

Before starting this thread, I researched the term
'going postal' to signify workplace rage.
Does everyone remember that Oklahoma post office incident?

@sidsmom I remember that incident. I also live not too far from the apartment complex where Mark Barton killed his family and those he worked with day trading in Atlanta back in 1999.

Scary day in our city, especially during the time no one knew where the guy was!

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software — Mon, 05 Jun 2017 21:06:03 GMT

@truffle wrote:
While I detest what he did, I also detest the snarky comments from his former employer that he was a disgruntled employee as if there was nothing more to the story. We will never know why he was fired...what infraction he committed, etc.

Agree

There is much more to this story.

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sidsmom — Mon, 05 Jun 2017 21:08:33 GMT

@software wrote:
@truffle wrote:
While I detest what he did, I also detest the snarky comments from his former employer that he was a disgruntled employee as if there was nothing more to the story. We will never know why he was fired...what infraction he committed, etc.
Agree

There is much more to this story.

This is not the direction I would've predicted, but....

what infraction would justify a life? 5 of them.

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software — Mon, 05 Jun 2017 21:08:43 GMT

I am armed but my employer has a rule no weapons in the office.

And while I don't carry a firearm into the office, I do have at least 2 weapons in my bag at all times. In fact I recently got in trouble with a County Sheriff's deputy about my keyring, which looks like a cat but those ears will put out an eye. He told me "don't you know that's a weapon?" I said yes, y'all can't be everywhere, can you?

I refuse to be a victim, if & when I go down, it won't be without a fight.

@Kachina624

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soonersis — Mon, 05 Jun 2017 21:09:29 GMT

@sidsmom wrote:
I was out of pocket this morning...must have made the news
rounds then. CNN just now did a 20-second recap.
I retract my 'blip' statement.

Before starting this thread, I researched the term
'going postal' to signify workplace rage.
Does everyone remember that Oklahoma post office incident?

Living in Oklahoma at the time I certainly remember this post office shooting incident and the term "going postal" it generated. Unfortunately we have too many of these workplace incidents now.

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truffle — Mon, 05 Jun 2017 21:10:00 GMT

@sidsmom wrote:
@software wrote:
@truffle wrote:
While I detest what he did, I also detest the snarky comments from his former employer that he was a disgruntled employee as if there was nothing more to the story. We will never know why he was fired...what infraction he committed, etc.
Agree

There is much more to this story.
This is not the direction I would've predicted, but....
what infraction would justify a life? 5 of them.

Nothing justifies what he did. There is more to the story however.

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meallen616 — Mon, 05 Jun 2017 21:16:18 GMT

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millieshops — Mon, 05 Jun 2017 21:20:04 GMT

Years ago, we heard most often the incidents from our own locality. For me, that's enough to deal with most of the time. Being fed every incident from all over makes the world feel even less safe than it actually is, and I don't feel safer knowing what happened in Orlando when I'm 1000 miles away. Sometimes it's just better not to know - as long as what's going on doesn't change where I can go should I want to go.

I'm well aware that's a head in the sand attitude, but I just don't get how knowing every tragic act of rage or even every accident wherever it may occur adds to my life in a positive way.

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Moonchilde — Mon, 05 Jun 2017 21:22:05 GMT

I have certainly worked with people - full time, part-time and temporary - whom I thought about in this context. Very mentally and emotionally unstable, irrational and disruptive. My supervisor never seemed to have an issue hiring them (no doubt she would have said discrimination laws meant she "had" to hire them), but she also never seemed to care about those of us who had to work with them every day. She could hire them, we had to deal with them.

During the last 2 years of my employment before retiring, the company handbook had created a way to "report" a situation or employee who made you feel unsafe, or who you thought night 'splode. I suspect it would end up getting the reporters reprimanded or fired, not the Scary Person.

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chickenbutt — Mon, 05 Jun 2017 21:23:48 GMT

What a horrible (!) shame.

You know, I have no problem with somebody killing him/herself - your body, your choice. Have at it.

But to have to take out others just for some self-loathing spite just pi$$es me off. It's about as chickenshirt as it gets.

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kcladyz — Mon, 05 Jun 2017 21:28:09 GMT

I am alone no family. Loosing your job and worrying about your future can often make you snap for you are so scared. its too bad he did this

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Noel7 — Mon, 05 Jun 2017 21:38:25 GMT

@golding76 wrote:
What a godless world we have.

To be fair, the uncountable deaths in the Crusades and many wars were not godless.