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Children in nail salons

Flika13 — Tue, 23 May 2017 16:40:26 GMT

I was in the nail salon yesterday and was surprised to see two infants with their mothers.

Both babies were under six months and their mothers were having pedicures and manicures.

One of the other customers did mention that it was probably not healthy for their babies to be breathing all of the chemicals. She was promptly told that it was none of her business.

One of the mothers lit up a cigarette as soon as she left the salon so I guess clean air for her baby is not a priority.

Re: Children in nail salons

Nonametoday — Tue, 23 May 2017 16:45:07 GMT

@Flika13 wrote:
I was in the nail salon yesterday and was surprised to see two infants with their mothers.
Both babies were under six months and their mothers were having pedicures and manicures.
One of the other customers did mention that it was probably not healthy for their babies to be breathing all of the chemicals. She was promptly told that it was none of her business.
One of the mothers lit up a cigarette as soon as she left the salon so I guess clean air for her baby is not a priority.

I hate to hear that but some things are out of our control. We must just pray for these sweet children.

Re: Children in nail salons

nana59 — Tue, 23 May 2017 17:07:07 GMT

Some people should not be parents......jmo......

Re: Children in nail salons

Nonametoday — Tue, 23 May 2017 17:23:05 GMT

You have to have a license to be a manicure-pedicure technician, but not to have children. Sigh. And if we were required to have a license, the government would get it all wrong and give license to those aforementioned that do not need them.

Re: Children in nail salons

suzyQ3 — Tue, 23 May 2017 17:30:47 GMT

Assuming that it is a known fact that the evironment in nail salons can be dangerous for babies, maybe the salons should not allow children under a certain age on the premises. I'm guessing, though, that such a policy would both offend some of their customers and frighten others.

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SahmIam — Tue, 23 May 2017 17:36:52 GMT

@suzyQ3 The nail salon I frequent DOES have this rule and I witnessed a tragic event about 2 years ago while in the big chair having a pedicure.

In summary, a woman came in with a week old or so infant to get acrylics and the salon owner told her that the fumes were too strong for any young child let alone an infant; she would have to return without the baby for the service.

The customer went OFF on the manager. Screamed, threatened, made a huge scene. The infant started screaming and she slammed (not kidding) the carrier down on the floor. That was it for me. I pulled out my phone and called the police. I wasn't the only one, apparently, as the operator told me she had already had a a few calls from the same salon over a disturbance.

You're right, there ARE people who should NOT have kids. This woman had issues but what if she had been carrying a weapon of some type? IMHO, this is why salons are not going to say anything; fear of being injured by an ignorant and nasty customer who should have had her tubes tied.

Re: Children in nail salons

teainlondon — Tue, 23 May 2017 17:40:41 GMT

@Flika13 wrote:
I was in the nail salon yesterday and was surprised to see two infants with their mothers.
Both babies were under six months and their mothers were having pedicures and manicures.
One of the other customers did mention that it was probably not healthy for their babies to be breathing all of the chemicals. She was promptly told that it was none of her business.
One of the mothers lit up a cigarette as soon as she left the salon so I guess clean air for her baby is not a priority.

I'm surprised they weren't breastfeeding at the same time. I think there are places that children just don't belong, but since everybody has the right to do whatever they want regardless of where they are, everything is fair game. Privacy, decency, and common sense----too many people don't know what those words mean.

tea

Re: Children in nail salons

Teddie — Tue, 23 May 2017 17:41:56 GMT

@Flika13 wrote:
I was in the nail salon yesterday and was surprised to see two infants with their mothers.
Both babies were under six months and their mothers were having pedicures and manicures.
One of the other customers did mention that it was probably not healthy for their babies to be breathing all of the chemicals. She was promptly told that it was none of her business.
One of the mothers lit up a cigarette as soon as she left the salon so I guess clean air for her baby is not a priority.

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Ohhhh, this just makes me sad. I was always so careful and health-minded with my babies.

Re: Children in nail salons

Maudelyn — Tue, 23 May 2017 17:50:18 GMT

I've been to several nail salons where the owners have small children, even babies. I wouldn't comment on someone bringing their child unless the child was making it uncomfortable for others in the salon. I can think of worse things than that, smoking cigarettes or (horrors!) breastfeeding.

It's what goes on behind closed doors in some households that make me shudder.

Re: Children in nail salons

PINKdogWOOD — Tue, 23 May 2017 18:10:19 GMT

I think that's digusting taking your baby(ies) to a nail salon. What are those children doing and/or who's caring for them while the mother is having her nails done. I never have but I'm betting manis & pedis are time consuming.

As well, chemical odors in the air to breathe.

Smoking is just down right disgusting and causes cancers.

Re: Children in nail salons

Moonchilde — Tue, 23 May 2017 18:27:07 GMT

I'm surprised by this thread. Maybe it depends on where you live, but I was born and raised in the second largest metropolitan area in the country, and now live rurally where most businesses serve a working class. I have never seen a baby in a nail or hair salon. Children, yes - from maybe 4-5 to 9 or so, but never a baby.

It wasn't routine to have age signs in the salons, but salons did have them; they set their own policies. Some said No Children, period. Others said no children under 6. Still others said children only when they were having a child-version mani or pedi. But babies? No. I never saw this.

I hasten to add I'm not doubting it happens, but a bit surprised, judging by this thread, that I've never seen it anywhere I've lived.

Re: Children in nail salons

NycVixen — Tue, 23 May 2017 19:36:14 GMT

I understand the concern. There are a lot of chemicals being used. Not a good idea. But there's not much you can do.

My mom was a heavy smoker when I was little and those were her Malboro years. I don't know if someone ever told her anything, but knowing her she would most likely say it was her house, mind your business. So far, I'm OK (fingers crossed). She wasn't affectionate, but the house was clean, food was on the table and a roof over my head. That was her definition of being a good mother. I don't agree but according to her that's my opinion.

Parents cannot be expected to do everything with 100% thinking if it's good for their children. It's just not realistic. It's sad but true. Unfortunately, some things have to give. I don't smoke and it's due to seeing how horrible it is firsthand. So in that vein, she did me a favor. I definitely won't be taking my children to a nail salon but I have to accept that not doing so won't be a priority for others. Let's just hope taking the little ones to a salon is the only area where these mothers drop the ball.

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Mj12 — Tue, 23 May 2017 19:32:07 GMT

Most nail salons I've been to have signs - no children period. But I was in one recently in another state, and a woman getting a pedicure was handed her baby by her husband. The nail tech said, "Oh absolutely not - what if the baby fell into this hot water?" The mother said she never thought of that. SMH.

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Carmie — Tue, 23 May 2017 19:44:20 GMT

I witnessed two young girls about 3 and 5 years old who came to the salon with their mother and grandmother. As soon as they got there, the little girls took off their shoes and proceeded to run around. The mom was in the chair getting her hair done, the GM was sitting in the waiting room.

i told the GM that the girls should not be without shoes in the salon because they couldn't get a hair splinter in their feet. I explained that they were very painful and hard to remove and even see. She made the girls come back and put on their shoes.

The very next day, I got a hair splinter in my foot. I guess that's what I get.

There are many dangers in a salon. KIds should be left at home if possible and babies should never be allowed in.

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Moonchilde — Tue, 23 May 2017 19:48:08 GMT

@Mj12 wrote:
Most nail salons I've been to have signs - no children period. But I was in one recently in another state, and a woman getting a pedicure was handed her baby by her husband. The nail tech said, "Oh absolutely not - what if the baby fell into this hot water?" The mother said she never thought of that. SMH.

That sounds like a symptom of too many people believing that their safety and well-being, as well as their children's, is the responsibility of someone (anyone) else. The govt, the business owner, the employee, the city, county - whoever they can think of to blame when something goes wrong. You don't need a brain, just blame anyone around for whatever it is. "They" are "responsible", but "you" never are.

These are people whom I chuckle about when they get theirs - but it's not funny when it involves the helpless or animals.

Re: Children in nail salons

Nonametoday — Tue, 23 May 2017 20:02:40 GMT

@NycVixen wrote:
I understand the concern. There are a lot of chemicals being used. Not a good idea. But there's not much you can do.

My mom was a heavy smoker when I was little and those were her Malboro years. I don't know if someone ever told her anything, but knowing her she would most likely say it was her house, mind your business. So far, I'm OK (fingers crossed). She wasn't affectionate, but the house was clean, food was on the table and a roof over my head. That was her definition of being a good mother. I don't agree but according to her that's my opinion.

Parents cannot be expected to do everything with 100% thinking if it's good for their children. It's just not realistic. It's sad but true. Unfortunately, some things have to give. I don't smoke and it's due to seeing how horrible it is firsthand. So in that vein, she did me a favor. I definitely won't be taking my children to a nail salon but I have to accept that not doing so won't be a priority for others. Let's just hope taking the little ones to a salon is the only area where these mothers drop the ball.

That was the definition of a mother at the time and what was expected of them and they were expected to raise strong children, not fragile children. She smoked as did most women of her day. Don't hold grudges. You will wear yourself down. Appreciate your mother for what she did because it was what she knew.

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PurpleBunny — Tue, 23 May 2017 20:30:47 GMT

@SahmIam wrote:
@suzyQ3 The nail salon I frequent DOES have this rule and I witnessed a tragic event about 2 years ago while in the big chair having a pedicure.

In summary, a woman came in with a week old or so infant to get acrylics and the salon owner told her that the fumes were too strong for any young child let alone an infant; she would have to return without the baby for the service.

The customer went OFF on the manager. Screamed, threatened, made a huge scene. The infant started screaming and she slammed (not kidding) the carrier down on the floor. That was it for me. I pulled out my phone and called the police. I wasn't the only one, apparently, as the operator told me she had already had a a few calls from the same salon over a disturbance.

You're right, there ARE people who should NOT have kids. This woman had issues but what if she had been carrying a weapon of some type? IMHO, this is why salons are not going to say anything; fear of being injured by an ignorant and nasty customer who should have had her tubes tied.

I had to read that twice. First, I was thinking "who the heck is insane enough to get acrylic nails put on an infant?" Lol.

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Lipstickdiva — Tue, 23 May 2017 20:38:45 GMT

I go to a nail salon and the owners bring their 3 children to work with them on the weekends. All day Saturday and Sunday those kids are in that nail salon breathing all that stuff in. Not to mention how bored they must be.

I have a relative who is a hair stylist and it drives me crazy when she talks about taking her less than 1 year old child to the salon to "visit."

One of the worst things I've seen is a woman who brought her several week old baby to a private club to hear her mom's band play. It was so loud in there and she had this baby in there. I heard one of the guys in the band say they didn't even want to play because they felt so bad for that baby. When I walked out to leave the place, she was outside and grandma was holding the baby with a cigarette dangling out of her mouth and mom, dad and grandpa were all out there smoking too. All I could do was feel sorry for that baby.

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Moonchilde — Tue, 23 May 2017 20:45:00 GMT

@NameAlreadyTaken wrote:
@NycVixen wrote:
I understand the concern. There are a lot of chemicals being used. Not a good idea. But there's not much you can do.

My mom was a heavy smoker when I was little and those were her Malboro years. I don't know if someone ever told her anything, but knowing her she would most likely say it was her house, mind your business. So far, I'm OK (fingers crossed). She wasn't affectionate, but the house was clean, food was on the table and a roof over my head. That was her definition of being a good mother. I don't agree but according to her that's my opinion.

Parents cannot be expected to do everything with 100% thinking if it's good for their children. It's just not realistic. It's sad but true. Unfortunately, some things have to give. I don't smoke and it's due to seeing how horrible it is firsthand. So in that vein, she did me a favor. I definitely won't be taking my children to a nail salon but I have to accept that not doing so won't be a priority for others. Let's just hope taking the little ones to a salon is the only area where these mothers drop the ball.
That was the definition of a mother at the time and what was expected of them and they were expected to raise strong children, not fragile children. She smoked as did most women of her day. Don't hold grudges. You will wear yourself down. Appreciate your mother for what she did because it was what she knew.

Nope. Gotta step up here. People are both shaped by their childhoods and allowed to feel the way they feel about something. If you have a parent that feeds and clothes you but shows no manifestation of love or affection, that parent "had children" because every woman at that time, in that era, had children whether they actually wanted them or not.

"Because it's just what you did" back then does not mean your parent was a wonderful person and you just have to deal with your feelings because they're invalid to start with.

And feeling, and being affected by something, does not necessarily mean you will "wear yourself down" (??). I absolutely think about things I wish my mother had done or not done - sometimes with anger, usually with sadness. I don't 100% "blame" her. She was, as you say, a product of her time. But that doesn't mean she (or any other parent) can't/shouldn't be criticized. She could have and should have learned from her own past; she chose not to.

We deal with what we deal with. We come out as adults shaped to some degree by our childhoods - that's inherent.

Parents are not sacrosanct, they're human, with human failings.

Re: Children in nail salons

suzyQ3 — Tue, 23 May 2017 20:57:02 GMT

@Moonchilde wrote:
@NameAlreadyTaken wrote:
@NycVixen wrote:
I understand the concern. There are a lot of chemicals being used. Not a good idea. But there's not much you can do.

My mom was a heavy smoker when I was little and those were her Malboro years. I don't know if someone ever told her anything, but knowing her she would most likely say it was her house, mind your business. So far, I'm OK (fingers crossed). She wasn't affectionate, but the house was clean, food was on the table and a roof over my head. That was her definition of being a good mother. I don't agree but according to her that's my opinion.

Parents cannot be expected to do everything with 100% thinking if it's good for their children. It's just not realistic. It's sad but true. Unfortunately, some things have to give. I don't smoke and it's due to seeing how horrible it is firsthand. So in that vein, she did me a favor. I definitely won't be taking my children to a nail salon but I have to accept that not doing so won't be a priority for others. Let's just hope taking the little ones to a salon is the only area where these mothers drop the ball.
That was the definition of a mother at the time and what was expected of them and they were expected to raise strong children, not fragile children. She smoked as did most women of her day. Don't hold grudges. You will wear yourself down. Appreciate your mother for what she did because it was what she knew.

Nope. Gotta step up here. People are both shaped by their childhoods and allowed to feel the way they feel about something. If you have a parent that feeds and clothes you but shows no manifestation of love or affection, that parent "had children" because every woman at that time, in that era, had children whether they actually wanted them or not.

"Because it's just what you did" back then does not mean your parent was a wonderful person and you just have to deal with your feelings because they're invalid to start with.

And feeling, and being affected by something, does not necessarily mean you will "wear yourself down" (??). I absolutely think about things I wish my mother had done or not done - sometimes with anger, usually with sadness. I don't 100% "blame" her. She was, as you say, a product of her time. But that doesn't mean she (or any other parent) can't/shouldn't be criticized. She could have and should have learned from her own past; she chose not to.

We deal with what we deal with. We come out as adults shaped to some degree by our childhoods - that's inherent.

Parents are not sacrosanct, they're human, with human failings.

@Moonchilde, thanks. You saved me trying to compose my own reply.