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So Clumsy...

Moonchilde — Mon, 22 May 2017 21:40:55 GMT

I was just browsing the "Recently On-Air" items for Gourmet Holiday and the "Hawaiian" tilapia caught my eye - as did an apparent single review listed for the product, with one star.

I was curious, so I attempted to read further - except although the small descriptive blurb says there IS a review for the product, and it's a 1-star review - when you click on it, the Review page for that item is blank and there is no review to be seen. Nada. Zilch.

If QVC was smart they would have done some magic to just "disappear" any notification that there was only a single 1-star review, so it would look like there are no reviews (yet). But to show up as yes, there IS a review, and it's 1 star - and then hide it - really poorly engineered to say the least.

Not tempted to buy, for obvious reasons.

Re: So Clumsy...

Gram W — Mon, 22 May 2017 22:38:01 GMT

I have seen that happen on fashion items I was trying to review before making a purchase. I expect that if an item is Customer Top Rated there should be reviews. None were found while on the air so I put the item on my wish list. A few days later many reviews were there. The reviews were not that bad.

I did not purchase because of comments regarding fit length for my shorter frame. No problem as length is often a question. I am a 5' 4" plus size lady. Designers seem to think they need to add an additional 3"-4" to the length of their plus size garments. Those of us who are "American average size" seem to be caught in the middle. We do not buy or we pay additional for alterations. With the increase in prices and quality not dependable with some I will no longer pay alteration charges. When in doubt I don't buy.

There are many other places where I can make my purchase.

Re: So Clumsy...

CelticCrafter — Mon, 22 May 2017 22:43:51 GMT

@Moonchilde wrote:
I was just browsing the "Recently On-Air" items for Gourmet Holiday and the "Hawaiian" tilapia caught my eye - as did an apparent single review listed for the product, with one star.

I was curious, so I attempted to read further - except although the small descriptive blurb says there IS a review for the product, and it's a 1-star review - when you click on it, the Review page for that item is blank and there is no review to be seen. Nada. Zilch.

If QVC was smart they would have done some magic to just "disappear" any notification that there was only a single 1-star review, so it would look like there are no reviews (yet). But to show up as yes, there IS a review, and it's 1 star - and then hide it - really poorly engineered to say the least.

Not tempted to buy, for obvious reasons.

$80 for 3 pounds of Tilapia!?!?!?! Are they out of their minds...it's like $4 a pound when it's on sale at the grocery store.

@Moonchilde - I could see the review and it wasn't a review it was a scolding about the Q selling the dirtiest farmed fish around.

Re: So Clumsy...

hildyjohnson — Mon, 22 May 2017 22:48:12 GMT

Good observation @Moonchilde!

Overall I feel the Q reviews are poorly managed.

Re: So Clumsy...

Moonchilde — Mon, 22 May 2017 22:52:23 GMT

Interesting, @CelticCrafter

Yes, the price made me laugh (tilapia is plentiful and cheap where I live).

"Dirty" as in they are scavenger fish (i.e. a non-review), or dirty as in the quality of what QVC is offering is yucky? And if they're farmed, then how "dirty" they are can be modified, right?

Catfish are also scavengers, and I don't think Southerners will stop eating them anytime soon. I've had it when I really liked it, and I've had it when it was yucky quality - but I can say that about most fish/shellfish.

Re: So Clumsy...

Kachina624 — Tue, 23 May 2017 00:32:36 GMT

Cant remember what I read or where, but I too have heard that Talipia is raised under filthy conditions. I've been avoiding it. I guess it depends on where it came from. As usual, there's China.....

"Farmed fish aren’t necessarily inferior to their wild-caught brethren, any more than farmed beef or grain is inferior to wild varieties of those foods. And there’s no guarantee that wild-caught fish are a safer food source than farmed fish, as the former often ingest a variety of toxins and other pollutants that flow into the world’s waterways.

However, farmed tilapia can vary considerably in quality based on where they are produced. Tilapia are typically farmed in the U.S. and Canada using tanks with closed recirculating systems, but much of the tilapia consumed by Americans is imported from Latin America and Asia (particularly Ecuador, China, and Taiwan), where the fish are usually raised in outdoor freshwater ponds. (China is the world’s largest producer of farmed tilapia, supplying approximately 40% of global production; nearly 40% of that output is exported to the U.S., primarily in the form of frozen fillets.)

As reported by the Environmental Defense Fund (EDF), in Ecuador tilapia are grown at low densities alongside shrimp to reduce water pollution, resulting in less disease and chemical use. But in China and Taiwan, water pollution and the use of chemicals in tilapia farming is a concern.

One of the issues with tilapia farmed in China is that smaller, independent farmers face economic pressures to use animal manure rather than more expensive commercial feed for farmed fish, a practice which contaminates water and makes the fish more susceptible to spreading foodborne diseases.

A July 2009 report from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) on the safety of food imports from China noted that in that country “Fish are often raised in ponds where they feed on waste from poultry and livestock” and cited an increased rate of FDA rejection of fish imports from China between 2000 and 2008. "

Re: So Clumsy...

JaneMarple — Tue, 23 May 2017 00:25:19 GMT

@Kachina624 wrote:
Cant remember what I read or where, but I too have heard that Talipia is raised under filthy conditions. I've been avoiding it.

I won't buy it!

Re: So Clumsy...

fthunt — Tue, 23 May 2017 01:08:40 GMT

Loving fish I tried Tilapia a couple of times and it is mild as stated; but I Googled it once and learned much of it does come from China - a trash fish - living in filthy waters. That was enough for me. Today's presentation, I listened and couldn't believe for a mild fish the host & vendor was listing numberous spices in the coating. Ginger - that's a strong spice and about 5 others - so with that coating you won't be able to taste the fish - to tell if it's gone bad or not. Yes, I read the one Review - and poster was trashing Q for selling a 'dirty fish".

I pass on "T" completely.

Re: So Clumsy...

Moonchilde — Tue, 23 May 2017 01:32:50 GMT

I don't need to pay QVC for it, heaven knows, but I'll be happy to keep eating it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/food/tilapia-has-a-terrible-reputation-does-it-deserve-it/2016/10/24/4537dc96-96e6-11e6-bc79-af1cd3d2984b_story.html?utm_term=.a55278e29eb4

Note also in the article a photo of tilapia being sold at Whole Foods, the Wholly Organic Healthy Store. Oh dear.

Re: So Clumsy...

sunshine45 — Tue, 23 May 2017 10:57:08 GMT

@Moonchilde

not sure why you cannot see the review, but here it is......

Anderson Seafoods (12) 4 oz. Hawaiian Flame Seared Tilapia — QVC.com

QVC, tilapia? You've Got To Be Kidding

Overall Rating

1 out of 5

Posted by EETEE 05-22-17

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Date:05-22-17

" Q, presenting Talapia? You have got to be kidding! It is one of the world's dirtiest farmed fish around. Your "q" can no longer stand for quality when you sell Talapia. Shame on you Q "

Re: So Clumsy...

software — Tue, 23 May 2017 12:44:30 GMT

@Moonchilde wrote:
Interesting, @CelticCrafter

Yes, the price made me laugh (tilapia is plentiful and cheap where I live).

"Dirty" as in they are scavenger fish (i.e. a non-review), or dirty as in the quality of what QVC is offering is yucky? And if they're farmed, then how "dirty" they are can be modified, right?

Catfish are also scavengers, and I don't think Southerners will stop eating them anytime soon. I've had it when I really liked it, and I've had it when it was yucky quality - but I can say that about most fish/shellfish.

Farm raised catfish are fed a specific diet in a very clean environment. As a southerner, I do not eat wild caught catfish only the small ones harvested from local farms. They are delicious! In Alabama the law states that all seafood must show country of origin on the label. The Alabama farmers are very proud of their product and often you will find the name of the farm on the label as well. I never eat tilapia. There are just too many other choices out there, tilapia would be the last on my list.

Re: So Clumsy...

Moonchilde — Tue, 23 May 2017 16:43:25 GMT

Thank you, @sunshine45 - I don't know why I couldn't see it either. I went in and out and refreshed my browser but no-go. But there are so many tiny glitches here...

So, a non-review. Like people reviewing Clark's shoes as horrible and berating QVC for selling leather.