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    <title>topic Re: Aetna in Community Chat</title>
    <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Aetna/m-p/3742022#M1078745</link>
    <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/66078"&gt;@Carmie&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/240997"&gt;@itiswhatitis&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;The problems as I understand them with the pharmaceutical companies and big insurers (who gobble up little insurers) is that they operate within the "free market."&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Many assumptions are made about the economic impacts of various scenarios to bring down costs. &amp;nbsp;None of it is ever a guarantee because we kind of treat medical insurance companies at arm's length (with the exception of making sure certain screenings are uniform and other protections for the greate good). &amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;As long as medicine is regarded as a free market money making operation (like car companies, cable companies) and more ~ they are not obligated to lower costs for us. &amp;nbsp;I think we need to stop counting their money in the hopes that they do what some economists "think they will do" which ain't necessarily so. &amp;nbsp;Since our system is free market they will always charge what they want. &amp;nbsp;No matter what.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;When I worked I had excellent insurance coverage and paid a small portion of it through paryroll deductions. &amp;nbsp;There was not a year that went by that my portion didn't go up. &amp;nbsp;It always went up. &amp;nbsp;I appreciated my benefits and the small part I had to pay at that time because I covered my entire family including hubby who had paltry health insurance.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Right now insurance companies are not able to sell their plans out of their area or out of their states. &amp;nbsp;Hopefully, this new insurance will lift the bans and allow companies to sell to anyone anywhere in the &amp;nbsp;US. &amp;nbsp;This will create competition and spread out the demographics to bring the cost down.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;I hope you're right&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/66078"&gt;@Carmie&lt;/a&gt;. &amp;nbsp;Otherwise, it is just a part of the Free Market which ain't so free for us. &amp;nbsp;We don't benefit when they consolidate with other companies or buy them. &amp;nbsp;Aetna just bought a company that now leaves one less competitor. &amp;nbsp;The same premise for just about anything else that wants the market share....&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2017 01:39:51 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>itiswhatitis</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2017-05-05T01:39:51Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Aetna</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Aetna/m-p/3740420#M1078358</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;So Aetna is pulling out of Virginia and United Health is likely to also.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Wow.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2017 14:02:35 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Aetna/m-p/3740420#M1078358</guid>
      <dc:creator>Isobel Archer</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-05-04T14:02:35Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Aetna</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Aetna/m-p/3740451#M1078360</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I read about Aetna.&amp;nbsp; I didn't hear anything about United yet.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'm not surprised...&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2017 14:16:14 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Aetna/m-p/3740451#M1078360</guid>
      <dc:creator>Bri36</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-05-04T14:16:14Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Aetna</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Aetna/m-p/3740457#M1078362</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Meanwhile last week Blue Cross here in Florida said they are doing just fine with ACA and heaven knows, Florida is a huge part of the swamp surrounding the District of Columbia even though it's 1000 miles south!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I can't begin to separate fact from fiction any longer, so I think it's all fiction!&amp;nbsp; Just know it's going to cost me money in the long run.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2017 14:19:19 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Aetna/m-p/3740457#M1078362</guid>
      <dc:creator>millieshops</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-05-04T14:19:19Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Aetna</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Aetna/m-p/3740459#M1078363</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Really!&amp;nbsp; What happened?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2017 14:19:33 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Aetna/m-p/3740459#M1078363</guid>
      <dc:creator>Luvitorleaveit1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-05-04T14:19:33Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Aetna</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Aetna/m-p/3740468#M1078365</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/34492"&gt;@Luvitorleaveit1&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;Really!&amp;nbsp; What happened?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="http://money.cnn.com/2017/05/03/news/economy/aetna-virginia-obamacare/" target="_blank"&gt;http://money.cnn.com/2017/05/03/news/economy/aetna-virginia-obamacare/&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2017 14:22:43 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Aetna/m-p/3740468#M1078365</guid>
      <dc:creator>Isobel Archer</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-05-04T14:22:43Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Aetna</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Aetna/m-p/3740505#M1078370</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;It always makes me laugh (and not in a good way) when these companies say they are "losing millions" (or even billions).&amp;nbsp; Somehow they still manage to make astronomical profits and pay shareholders big dividends.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If they were losing that much, they'd be in bankruptcy, but they're clearly not.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I do know that, when my former company switched us to United Healthcare, it was a disaster.&amp;nbsp; They were the&lt;EM&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt; worst&lt;/STRONG&gt; &lt;/EM&gt;health provider we ever had to deal with.&amp;nbsp; Costs went up and even getting a pretty straightforward claim paid was a battle.&amp;nbsp; Sometimes my colleagues and I would just pay things ourselves, rather than fight it out with them.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Even our head boss at the time told us that, if our claims were denied, to resubmit them, because UHC was "counting" on people not to.&amp;nbsp; &lt;img id="smileyfrustrated" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyfrustrated" src="https://community.qvc.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-frustrated.png" alt="Smiley Frustrated" title="Smiley Frustrated" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2017 14:42:04 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Aetna/m-p/3740505#M1078370</guid>
      <dc:creator>Venezia</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-05-04T14:42:04Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Aetna</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Aetna/m-p/3740539#M1078375</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/110757"&gt;@Isobel Archer&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/34492"&gt;@Luvitorleaveit1&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;Really!&amp;nbsp; What happened?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="http://money.cnn.com/2017/05/03/news/economy/aetna-virginia-obamacare/" target="_blank"&gt;http://money.cnn.com/2017/05/03/news/economy/aetna-virginia-obamacare/&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="3"&gt;The last paragraph in the linked article could be very telling about insurance going forward because the bill does repeal the cost-sharing subsidies.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2017 14:54:37 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Aetna/m-p/3740539#M1078375</guid>
      <dc:creator>Marp</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-05-04T14:54:37Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Aetna</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Aetna/m-p/3740687#M1078414</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I work at a doctor's office and when I call Aetna I am talking to the Phillipines, but when a subscriber calls them they are talking to an American. &amp;nbsp;Very frustrating.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2017 15:46:54 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Aetna/m-p/3740687#M1078414</guid>
      <dc:creator>BLH</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-05-04T15:46:54Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Aetna</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Aetna/m-p/3740796#M1078450</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/34980"&gt;@Venezia&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;It always makes me laugh (and not in a good way) when these companies say they are "losing millions" (or even billions).&amp;nbsp; Somehow they still manage to make astronomical profits and pay shareholders big dividends.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If they were losing that much, they'd be in bankruptcy, but they're clearly not.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I do know that, when my former company switched us to United Healthcare, it was a disaster.&amp;nbsp; They were the&lt;EM&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt; worst&lt;/STRONG&gt; &lt;/EM&gt;health provider we ever had to deal with.&amp;nbsp; Costs went up and even getting a pretty straightforward claim paid was a battle.&amp;nbsp; Sometimes my colleagues and I would just pay things ourselves, rather than fight it out with them.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Even our head boss at the time told us that, if our claims were denied, to resubmit them, because UHC was "counting" on people not to.&amp;nbsp; &lt;img id="smileyfrustrated" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyfrustrated" src="https://community.qvc.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-frustrated.png" alt="Smiley Frustrated" title="Smiley Frustrated" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/34980"&gt;@Venezia&lt;/a&gt;, they lie! &amp;nbsp;People believe it though.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2017 16:41:22 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Aetna/m-p/3740796#M1078450</guid>
      <dc:creator>itiswhatitis</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-05-04T16:41:22Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Aetna</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Aetna/m-p/3740845#M1078472</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4" color="#000000"&gt;Heard Iowa is losing their last insurer for certain plans. I also know there is a Congressional vote today on the health care bill. Maybe that will change things in the states mentioned.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4" color="#000000"&gt;hckynut(john)&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2017 16:56:28 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Aetna/m-p/3740845#M1078472</guid>
      <dc:creator>hckynut</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-05-04T16:56:28Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Aetna</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Aetna/m-p/3741015#M1078537</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;ACA insurance has been a loser from the beginning. &amp;nbsp;many insurance companies are pulling out because they are losing money. &amp;nbsp;premiums have also gone up so much that it is almost impossible for anyone to afford,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;the only people who who are making out ok are lower income people. &amp;nbsp;Thery are getting breaks and affordable insurance e because the middle income people are helping to pay with their high premiums. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;It definetly needs an over overhaul as it is imploding.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have read reports that Medicare Advantage Plans might be next. &amp;nbsp;I hope not! &amp;nbsp;Insurance companies are losing money on those plans too and they are dropping many programs. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2017 19:11:48 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Aetna/m-p/3741015#M1078537</guid>
      <dc:creator>Carmie</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-05-04T19:11:48Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Aetna</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Aetna/m-p/3743421#M1078542</link>
      <description>This post has been removed by QVC because it is political</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2017 18:38:56 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Aetna/m-p/3743421#M1078542</guid>
      <dc:creator>Beth-QVC</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-05-04T18:38:56Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Aetna</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Aetna/m-p/3741040#M1078543</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;This is a hot mess!!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Changes are needed and will be coming at some point.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2017 18:39:57 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Aetna/m-p/3741040#M1078543</guid>
      <dc:creator>3suwm5</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-05-04T18:39:57Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Aetna</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Aetna/m-p/3741058#M1078548</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;As long as insurance companies call the shots, we'll suffer. Their CEOs make gazillions every year while the poor subscribers are just that...poor. Special interests rule. I expect to be zapped.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2017 18:47:28 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Aetna/m-p/3741058#M1078548</guid>
      <dc:creator>Vivian</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-05-04T18:47:28Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Aetna</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Aetna/m-p/3741067#M1078551</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I just don't have a boo-hoo in me for the poor insurance companies.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2017 18:50:42 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>QueenDanceALot</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-05-04T18:50:42Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Aetna</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Aetna/m-p/3741127#M1078557</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/18534"&gt;@QueenDanceALot&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;I just don't have a boo-hoo in me for the poor insurance companies.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;I can't say I blame you. &amp;nbsp;It's not the insurance companies I feel sorry for. &amp;nbsp;It's the people who are stuck with high premiums, high deductibles and coinsurance.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;They are paying high premiums for insurance that they can't use because they can't afford the high out of pocket costs before insurance e kicks in and pays anything.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2017 19:16:00 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Aetna/m-p/3741127#M1078557</guid>
      <dc:creator>Carmie</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-05-04T19:16:00Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Aetna</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Aetna/m-p/3741141#M1078560</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;The House bill just passed today&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2017 19:20:26 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Aetna/m-p/3741141#M1078560</guid>
      <dc:creator>software</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-05-04T19:20:26Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Aetna</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Aetna/m-p/3741165#M1078561</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;We are the greatest country in the world. Yet we are the only civilized nation that doesn't guarantee healthcare for all.It's appalling that we can spend money on wars.We can provide aide to other countries.But we can't come up with a plan or the money to insure our citizens. Shame on us!!&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2017 19:29:57 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>NicksmomESQ</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-05-04T19:29:57Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Aetna</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Aetna/m-p/3741171#M1078566</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I got a notice in the mail this morning that our insurance is going up ...again. My deductible also went up........again&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2017 19:32:54 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Nataliesgramma</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-05-04T19:32:54Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Aetna</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Aetna/m-p/3741205#M1078570</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;No one knows how much this thing is going to cost, what the details are and how many will lose coverage, &amp;nbsp;but they're cheering like it's the Academy Awards.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2017 19:56:20 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>QueenDanceALot</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-05-04T19:56:20Z</dc:date>
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