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MARINE PHOTO SCANDAL

Tinkrbl44 — Wed, 08 Mar 2017 17:07:03 GMT

I did something today that I rarely do ..... I yelled at the TV!

I was watching the news story about the secret website where thousands of photos of naked female Marines are posted .... and the posts there are pretty nasty. How sad. One female Marine interviewed this morning said she felt "violated". Really? What were you thinking when these photos were taken?

What got me angry is how stupid is ANY woman to pose for nude photos (or videos) and assume they'll never see the light of day. Whether it's an ex boyfriend or whatever .... what woman in her right mind would do this?

Good grief, gals, if you insist on posing nude .... KEEP the photos yourself!

Okay, my rant is over.

What's your take on this scandal?

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AngusandBuddhasMom — Wed, 08 Mar 2017 16:19:32 GMT

@Tinkrbl44 wrote:

I did something today that I rarely do ..... I yelled at the TV !

I was watching the news story about the secret website where thousands of photos of naked female Marines are posted .... and the posts there are pretty nasty. How sad. One female Marine interviewed this morning said she felt "violated". Really? What were you thinking when these photos were taken?

What got me angry is how stupid is ANY woman to pose for nude photos (or videos) and assume they'll never see the light of day. Whether it's an ex boyfriend or whatever .... what woman in her right mind would do this?

Good grief, gals, if you insist on posing nude .... KEEP the photos yourself!

Okay, my rant is over.

What's your take on this scandal?

Regardless of what they may or may not be thinking. To take these photos without their consent and post on a website is wrong. The marines most be so proud of themselves. This is up there with Tailhook.

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Nancy Drew — Wed, 08 Mar 2017 16:23:11 GMT

Women were stupid to take them and the men were stupid to post them. Young people do not always have the maturity we think they do.

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Plaid Pants2 — Wed, 08 Mar 2017 16:23:17 GMT

@AngusandBuddhasMom wrote:
@Tinkrbl44 wrote:

I did something today that I rarely do ..... I yelled at the TV !

I was watching the news story about the secret website where thousands of photos of naked female Marines are posted .... and the posts there are pretty nasty. How sad. One female Marine interviewed this morning said she felt "violated". Really? What were you thinking when these photos were taken?

What got me angry is how stupid is ANY woman to pose for nude photos (or videos) and assume they'll never see the light of day. Whether it's an ex boyfriend or whatever .... what woman in her right mind would do this?

Good grief, gals, if you insist on posing nude .... KEEP the photos yourself!

Okay, my rant is over.

What's your take on this scandal?
Regardless of what they may or may not be thinking. To take these photos without their consent and post on a website is wrong. The marines most be so proud of themselves. This is up there with Tailhook.

@AngusandBuddhasMom

Yes, if these photos were taken WITHOUT the consent of the women, then SHAME on the Marines!

Even in 2017, it's hard for a woman to be in the military. They still face harrassment.

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AngusandBuddhasMom — Wed, 08 Mar 2017 16:27:55 GMT

@Jackaranda wrote:
Women were stupid to take them and the men were stupid to post them. Young people do not always have the maturity we think they do.

Just because a woman takes a photo does not give anyone the right to publish it without her consent. That is blaming the victim for something she has not agreed to.

The same as saying she asked for it.

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ChynnaBlue — Wed, 08 Mar 2017 16:39:38 GMT

@Plaid Pants2 wrote:
@AngusandBuddhasMom wrote:
@Tinkrbl44 wrote:

I did something today that I rarely do ..... I yelled at the TV !

I was watching the news story about the secret website where thousands of photos of naked female Marines are posted .... and the posts there are pretty nasty. How sad. One female Marine interviewed this morning said she felt "violated". Really? What were you thinking when these photos were taken?

What got me angry is how stupid is ANY woman to pose for nude photos (or videos) and assume they'll never see the light of day. Whether it's an ex boyfriend or whatever .... what woman in her right mind would do this?

Good grief, gals, if you insist on posing nude .... KEEP the photos yourself!

Okay, my rant is over.

What's your take on this scandal?
Regardless of what they may or may not be thinking. To take these photos without their consent and post on a website is wrong. The marines most be so proud of themselves. This is up there with Tailhook.

@AngusandBuddhasMom

Yes, if these photos were taken WITHOUT the consent of the women, then SHAME on the Marines!

Even in 2017, it's hard for a woman to be in the military. They still face harrassment.

Even if they were taken with consent, shame on anyone posting them without consent.

The women are the victims, period. If you think they made poor decisions, that's fine, but that does not mean they aren't still victims of the people who posted their pictures.

Victim blaming helps no one.

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Carmie — Wed, 08 Mar 2017 16:43:35 GMT

Some of these photos were taken without the woman's knowledge.

They were posted with all all of the private information about them. Full name, rank, address, etc.

This behavior is shocking. Our military needs to get their act together and FAST,

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Plaid Pants2 — Wed, 08 Mar 2017 16:47:35 GMT

@Carmie wrote:
Some of these photos were taken without the woman's knowledge.

They were posted with all all of the private information about them. Full name, rank, address, etc.

This behavior is shocking. Our military needs to get their act together and FAST,

Agreed.

The women did NOT give consent to have the pictures posted.

It is shameful that in 2017, the military is still harassing women.

For many, it's still a boys club, and women need not apply.

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SeaMaiden — Wed, 08 Mar 2017 16:51:45 GMT

Men are men, boy will be boys.... they NEVER GROW UP.

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Noel7 — Wed, 08 Mar 2017 16:58:34 GMT

Most were taken without consent.

A few were taken for their boyfriends only but were passed around.

Gee, get the facts right and don't always be so quick to jump the gun and blame women. Where is your outrage for the men who hid and took secret photos?

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AngusandBuddhasMom — Wed, 08 Mar 2017 17:03:17 GMT

@SeaMaiden wrote:
Men are men, boy will be boys.... they NEVER GROW UP.

Are you being facetious or are you giving them a pass?

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Noel7 — Wed, 08 Mar 2017 17:03:43 GMT

It always saddens me that so many women on the board are always quick to jump the gun without knowing the facts.

Quick to blame and shame other women. Shameful

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Tinkrbl44 — Wed, 08 Mar 2017 17:13:56 GMT

@AngusandBuddhasMom wrote:
@Jackaranda wrote:
Women were stupid to take them and the men were stupid to post them. Young people do not always have the maturity we think they do.
Just because a woman takes a photo does not give anyone the right to publish it without her consent. That is blaming the victim for something she has not agreed to.

The same as saying she asked for it.

@AngusandBuddhasMom

Yes, ITA .... but you always have to weigh the risk in your actions.

It's like leaving a $50 bill on the sidewalk, and someone picks it up and walks away. Yes, it was wrong for the person to take it, but the likelihood someone would do that is pretty high, don't you think?

Same with nude photos, IMO.

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Plaid Pants2 — Wed, 08 Mar 2017 17:23:19 GMT

@Tinkrbl44 wrote:
@AngusandBuddhasMom wrote:
@Jackaranda wrote:
Women were stupid to take them and the men were stupid to post them. Young people do not always have the maturity we think they do.
Just because a woman takes a photo does not give anyone the right to publish it without her consent. That is blaming the victim for something she has not agreed to.

The same as saying she asked for it.
@AngusandBuddhasMom

Yes, ITA .... but you always have to weigh the risk in your actions.

It's like leaving a $50 bill on the sidewalk, and someone picks it up and walks away. Yes, it was wrong for the person to take it, but the likelihood someone would do that is pretty high, don't you think?

Same with nude photos, IMO.

So, if someone took your nude picture, WITHOUT your concent, you would not blame the other person???

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Noel7 — Wed, 08 Mar 2017 17:25:52 GMT

@Tinkrbl44 wrote:
@AngusandBuddhasMom wrote:
@Jackaranda wrote:
Women were stupid to take them and the men were stupid to post them. Young people do not always have the maturity we think they do.
Just because a woman takes a photo does not give anyone the right to publish it without her consent. That is blaming the victim for something she has not agreed to.

The same as saying she asked for it.
@AngusandBuddhasMom

Yes, ITA .... but you always have to weigh the risk in your actions.

It's like leaving a $50 bill on the sidewalk, and someone picks it up and walks away. Yes, it was wrong for the person to take it, but the likelihood someone would do that is pretty high, don't you think?

Same with nude photos, IMO.

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@Tinkrbl44

Are you saying women Marines should never shower or undress for bed?

I'm surprised you are blaming women who had no idea they were being photographed in the altogether.

These are women, some in the front lines, who fight for our country while some silly women on a BB blame them for being a victim.

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Tinkrbl44 — Wed, 08 Mar 2017 18:23:33 GMT

@Noel7 wrote:
It always saddens me that so many women on the board are always quick to jump the gun without knowing the facts.

Quick to blame and shame other women. Shameful

@Noel7

Are you referring to MY posts? You weren't really clear, but maybe that was on purpose.

I posted this thread after watching the interview on GMA .... and the photos and a sex video were consensual. I find it odd that a woman would think an ex boyfriend would "keep them private", especially in this era of selfies, instagram, etc. Plus, If the relationship ended badly, there's no telling where the photos would end up. Yes, I do believe women need to think ahead.

I also find it sad that so many men seem to think this behavior is acceptable ... part of the guys club nonsense. And I hate to "blame women" .... but why didn't their MOTHERS raise them to respect women? Good question, IMO.

What I HOPE happens is that the military starts punishing men who violate female marines .... even rapes that are reported often times are ignored or dismissed with not so much as a scolding.

IMO, there needs to be severe penalties and even Dishonorable Discharges or Bad Conduct Discharges imposed. I hope enough people are incensed enough to complain to our government officials. Men in the military get away with too much bad behavior. JMO

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SarahW — Wed, 08 Mar 2017 17:32:17 GMT

@SeaMaiden wrote:
Men are men, boy will be boys.... they NEVER GROW UP.

Let's not forget that the armed forces are greatly made up of 17-18 year olds, still "boys" IMO. (Not to excuse the bad behavior, however.)

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AngusandBuddhasMom — Wed, 08 Mar 2017 17:32:45 GMT

@Tinkrbl44 wrote:
@AngusandBuddhasMom wrote:
@Jackaranda wrote:
Women were stupid to take them and the men were stupid to post them. Young people do not always have the maturity we think they do.
Just because a woman takes a photo does not give anyone the right to publish it without her consent. That is blaming the victim for something she has not agreed to.

The same as saying she asked for it.
@AngusandBuddhasMom

Yes, ITA .... but you always have to weigh the risk in your actions.

It's like leaving a $50 bill on the sidewalk, and someone picks it up and walks away. Yes, it was wrong for the person to take it, but the likelihood someone would do that is pretty high, don't you think?

Same with nude photos, IMO.

Sorry no this is not the same thing. Unless you are saying Male Marines have no moral code and this should be expected. My late ex was a Marine during Tailhook this and things that have gone on in the Military to abuse, demoralize and demean female Marines as well as Civilians is just wrong and the Dept. of Defense as well as the Marine Corp need to be held responsible for this. As well as those who took the photos and posted them.

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Tinkrbl44 — Wed, 08 Mar 2017 17:32:53 GMT

@Plaid Pants2 wrote:
@Tinkrbl44 wrote:
@AngusandBuddhasMom wrote:
@Jackaranda wrote:
Women were stupid to take them and the men were stupid to post them. Young people do not always have the maturity we think they do.
Just because a woman takes a photo does not give anyone the right to publish it without her consent. That is blaming the victim for something she has not agreed to.

The same as saying she asked for it.
@AngusandBuddhasMom

Yes, ITA .... but you always have to weigh the risk in your actions.

It's like leaving a $50 bill on the sidewalk, and someone picks it up and walks away. Yes, it was wrong for the person to take it, but the likelihood someone would do that is pretty high, don't you think?

Same with nude photos, IMO.

So, if someone took your nude picture, WITHOUT your concent, you would not blame the other person???

@Plaid Pants2

??? Of course I would. Men get away with too much in the military.

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AngusandBuddhasMom — Wed, 08 Mar 2017 17:34:26 GMT

@SarahW wrote:
@SeaMaiden wrote:
Men are men, boy will be boys.... they NEVER GROW UP.

Let's not forget that the armed forces are greatly made up of 17-18 year olds, still "boys" IMO. (Not to excuse the bad behavior, however.)

Lets remember that if this happened in the civilian world they would then be facing charges in adult court or juvenile. No excuse for this behaviour. That is the problem the old boys will be boys mentality has gotten us to this mess.