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Testing For Native American DNA

katiemichelle — Sat, 04 Mar 2017 02:32:14 GMT

In the Immigration thread it was posted that -

(You have to have a male family member test ,to know about the american indian in you,i did the same thing,it did not show it on me, my grandmother was american indiana.)

This is absolutely untrue. You either have Native American DNA, or you do not. There were a few reasons posted in that thread why the DNA might not show up.

I am female and have tested at both 23andme and Ancestry, both showed my NA DNA. I tested my three children, all showed NA DNA at both companies.

What you do have to have a male for is testing for your father's Haplogoup. When testing at 23andme, if you are female, your mother's Haplogroup will show up. You have to test your father to find his Haplogroup. If he is deceased, a brother or uncle can be tested.

23andme tests for Haplogroup, Ancestry does not.

Re: Testing For Native American DNA

Drythe — Sat, 04 Mar 2017 05:16:42 GMT

@katiemichelle wrote:
In the Immigration thread it was posted that -

(You have to have a male family member test ,to know about the american indian in you,i did the same thing,it did not show it on me, my grandmother was american indiana.)

This is absolutely untrue. You either have Native American DNA, or you do not. There were a few reasons posted in that thread why the DNA might not show up.

I am female and have tested at both 23andme and Ancestry, both showed my NA DNA. I tested my three children, all showed NA DNA at both companies.

What you do have to have a male for is testing for your father's Haplogoup. When testing at 23andme, if you are female, your mother's Haplogroup will show up. You have to test your father to find his Haplogroup. If he is deceased, a brother or uncle can be tested.

23andme tests for Haplogroup, Ancestry does not.

@katiemichelle

Do you have a link?

I am part Native American from my Grand Mother - my Grand Father was non- Native American, what good would testing him do?

Silly.

Re: Testing For Native American DNA

GrailSeeker — Sat, 04 Mar 2017 05:41:51 GMT

There are several videos up on Youtube that discuss this. My family, likewise, has the legend of a Cherokee grandmother. Dad's side traces back to arriving in the colonies. in 1753, so anything is possible.

I thought this one explained it pretty well, but there is another one somewhere that states that there is not enough Native American in the databases. Nor specific African tribes. These tests have quite a ways to go yet as far as accuracy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geE7zsehccY

Re: Testing For Native American DNA

Drythe — Sat, 04 Mar 2017 06:00:14 GMT

@GrailSeeker wrote:
There are several videos up on Youtube that discuss this. My family, likewise, has the legend of a Cherokee grandmother. Dad's side traces back to arriving in the colonies. in 1753, so anything is possible.

I thought this one explained it pretty well, but there is another one somewhere that states that there is not enough Native American in the databases. Nor specific African tribes. These tests have quite a ways to go yet as far as accuracy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geE7zsehccY

@GrailSeeker

Thank you, I listened to this link via youtube.

Not relevant to me as I knew my Grand Mother and her family very well, as did my father (her son) so the link is not based on legend.

No doubt others will find it interesting.

The reason I inquired about @katiemichelle 's link was because she mentioned that the information was from "the immigration link". ???

Just wondered who and what immigration link it was.

Again thanks for your help.

Re: Testing For Native American DNA

GrailSeeker — Sat, 04 Mar 2017 06:26:57 GMT

The immigration thread. I looked for it, too!

Here's the other youtube link I saw on missing Native American DNA:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T42SqFu2flA

Re: Testing For Native American DNA

Moonchilde — Sat, 04 Mar 2017 06:27:31 GMT

@Drythe wrote:
@GrailSeeker wrote:
There are several videos up on Youtube that discuss this. My family, likewise, has the legend of a Cherokee grandmother. Dad's side traces back to arriving in the colonies. in 1753, so anything is possible.

I thought this one explained it pretty well, but there is another one somewhere that states that there is not enough Native American in the databases. Nor specific African tribes. These tests have quite a ways to go yet as far as accuracy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geE7zsehccY
@GrailSeeker

Thank you, I listened to this link via youtube.
Not relevant to me as I knew my Grand Mother and her family very well, as did my father (her son) so the link is not based on legend.

No doubt others will find it interesting.

The reason I inquired about @katiemichelle 's link was because she mentioned that the information was from "the immigration link". ???
Just wondered who and what immigration link it was.

Again thanks for your help.

@Drythe, Miz iMac posted the link in the "immigrant" thread 2-3 pages back in CC, and I contributed to the conversation, but my comments as scrambled in this thread were taken out of context. Here's the NA DNA link.

http://www.rootsandrecombinantdna.com/2015/03/native-american-dna-is-just-not-that.html

Some people will just never understand how DNA testing works, and what the results mean or don't mean. Nothing about commercially available, relatively inexpensive DNA testing is cut-and-dried.

The link gives a lot of info and is very thorough in explanation.

Re: Testing For Native American DNA

katiemichelle — Sat, 04 Mar 2017 07:51:41 GMT

@Drythe wrote:
@katiemichelle wrote:
In the Immigration thread it was posted that -

(You have to have a male family member test ,to know about the american indian in you,i did the same thing,it did not show it on me, my grandmother was american indiana.)

This is absolutely untrue. You either have Native American DNA, or you do not. There were a few reasons posted in that thread why the DNA might not show up.

I am female and have tested at both 23andme and Ancestry, both showed my NA DNA. I tested my three children, all showed NA DNA at both companies.

What you do have to have a male for is testing for your father's Haplogoup. When testing at 23andme, if you are female, your mother's Haplogroup will show up. You have to test your father to find his Haplogroup. If he is deceased, a brother or uncle can be tested.

23andme tests for Haplogroup, Ancestry does not.

@katiemichelle

Do you have a link?

I am part Native American from my Grand Mother - my Grand Father was non- Native American, what good would testing him do?

Silly.

I think you misunderstood me. I was referring to the Immigration thread on these boards which now seems to be gone.

In testing of a father or brother, I was referring to Haplogroup, a different subject. I was in no way suggesting you test your grandfather for NA DNA.

Re: Testing For Native American DNA

Drythe — Sun, 05 Mar 2017 00:47:32 GMT

Thank you @Moonchilde for the explanation! I did not see the previous DNA post link, and was wondering if everything I learned about DNA was fantasy.

@katiemichelle

I do know about Haplogroups testing for a common ancestor; I find the theory about Genghis Khan and the predominance of a particular Y chromosome # amazing.

***ZERJAL, T. (2003). The Genetic Legacy of the Mongols The American Journal of Human Genetics, 72 (3), 717-721 DOI: 10.1086/367774

The comment about testing my Grand Father was made tongue-in-cheek, sorry if my humor was not understood that way! No harm intended.

Re: Testing For Native American DNA

goldensrbest — Sun, 05 Mar 2017 19:12:36 GMT

That might have been me that posted that,i did the anstery .com test,and was puzzled as to why no native American showed up, my dads mom was half American indian, no doubt about it , i was told that because it was from my dads side , it would not show up on me ,that a male like my brother would have to test.