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Harrison - pls ground yourself

ms traditional — Tue, 14 Feb 2017 21:38:22 GMT

it appears that Harrison Ford in a private plane had a narrow escape when he mixed up landing instructions, landing on a taxiway rather than a runway at John Wayne Airport in Orange County. there will be an investigation.

.http://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/harrison-ford-has-incident-passenger-plane-airport-n720826

time to take Southwest, Harrison Ford!

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Q4u — Tue, 14 Feb 2017 21:55:33 GMT

Yup Harrison.... sometimes the day comes sooner than you think. The hard part is that you may take someone out with you.....

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Noel7 — Tue, 14 Feb 2017 22:13:09 GMT

Uh, oh. As reported, it sounds like it's time to.

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cherry — Tue, 14 Feb 2017 22:15:46 GMT

It sounds as if he got confused. I hope it isn't the beginnings of dementia. I think he should stop flying

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Alsee — Tue, 14 Feb 2017 22:17:44 GMT

Yup - heard he almost took out a 737 out here today, It may be time for him to start flying commercial!

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Pearlee — Tue, 14 Feb 2017 22:33:38 GMT

I don't think you all are being quite fair. That incident a couple of years ago with the very, very old plane was due to the plane's mechanical failure. As the article in the link points out near the end, Ford received high praise for even having been able to land the disabled plane, and away from any place where someone else got hurt. It's a miracle he was able to land and survived that - the crash wasn't his fault.

That said, at age 74 he maybe should stop piloting planes. It will be interesting to see whether the FAA suspends his license.

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ms traditional — Tue, 14 Feb 2017 23:04:31 GMT

@Pearlee wrote:
I don't think you all are being quite fair. That incident a couple of years ago with the very, very old plane was due to the plane's mechanical failure. As the article in the link points out near the end, Ford received high praise for even having been able to land the disabled plane, and away from any place where someone else got hurt. It's a miracle he was able to land and survived that - the crash wasn't his fault.

That said, at age 74 he maybe should stop piloting planes. It will be interesting to see whether the FAA suspends his license.

@Pearlee what worried me was he read the landing instrux back to the tower before he landed on taxiway and he seemed to wonder what was happening when he went over the 737 instead of having an "OMG" moment. i don't know if this was his first time at John Wayne - maybe he should not be flying alone at the very least. this was kind of serious.

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Noel7 — Tue, 14 Feb 2017 23:17:40 GMT

@Pearlee wrote:
I don't think you all are being quite fair. That incident a couple of years ago with the very, very old plane was due to the plane's mechanical failure. As the article in the link points out near the end, Ford received high praise for even having been able to land the disabled plane, and away from any place where someone else got hurt. It's a miracle he was able to land and survived that - the crash wasn't his fault.

That said, at age 74 he maybe should stop piloting planes. It will be interesting to see whether the FAA suspends his license.

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WE are being unfair @Pearlee ?

You just said the same thing others of us said 🤔

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happycat — Tue, 14 Feb 2017 23:39:05 GMT

Thank God no one was hurt. He might not be so lucky the next time, I think he should think about going first class. Or hiring a pilot.

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Pearlee — Wed, 15 Feb 2017 00:17:49 GMT

@Noel7 wrote:
@Pearlee wrote:
I don't think you all are being quite fair. That incident a couple of years ago with the very, very old plane was due to the plane's mechanical failure. As the article in the link points out near the end, Ford received high praise for even having been able to land the disabled plane, and away from any place where someone else got hurt. It's a miracle he was able to land and survived that - the crash wasn't his fault.

That said, at age 74 he maybe should stop piloting planes. It will be interesting to see whether the FAA suspends his license.
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WE are being unfair @Pearlee ?

You just said the same thing others of us said 🤔

Just what I wrote, @Noel7 I think some of the posters put the blame on Ford for the 2015 accident too, which was unfair. So yes, you read my post correctly.

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cherry — Wed, 15 Feb 2017 00:22:37 GMT

@Pearlee I didn't see anyone blame him, for the accident , when the plane malfunctioned

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SeaMaiden — Wed, 15 Feb 2017 00:28:12 GMT

He is going to end up like John Denver..dead. Why do people who have everything risk their lives and do stupid things? He needs a new safer hobby. He has all that money and he is going to kill himself befire he can spend it.

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cancun08 — Wed, 15 Feb 2017 00:28:24 GMT

"I got a bad feeling about this"!!!!

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ROMARY — Wed, 15 Feb 2017 00:37:42 GMT

In general, probably a good idea to take a good look, ahead of time, at exactly where the landing strips are. Maybe study the diagrams, etc. Probably easy to do online now-a-days. Well, that's what I would do. Sort of 'refresh' my memory ahead of time re: my chosen airport's landing strips. Well, thank goodness he and others are ok.

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Noel7 — Wed, 15 Feb 2017 00:48:38 GMT

@SeaMaiden wrote:
He is going to end up like John Denver..dead. Why do people who have everything risk their lives and do stupid things? He needs a new safer hobby. He has all that money and he is going to kill himself befire he can spend it.

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@SeaMaiden

Flying a small plane isn't stupid. He was a rescue pilot for a long time. I don't see that money has anything to do with it, a lot of aging people have to deal with issues that could impair driving or flying.

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DiAnne — Wed, 15 Feb 2017 01:01:35 GMT

My friend's husband still flies a small plane at 82.

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PurpleBunny — Wed, 15 Feb 2017 12:19:31 GMT

@Pearlee wrote:
I don't think you all are being quite fair. That incident a couple of years ago with the very, very old plane was due to the plane's mechanical failure. As the article in the link points out near the end, Ford received high praise for even having been able to land the disabled plane, and away from any place where someone else got hurt. It's a miracle he was able to land and survived that - the crash wasn't his fault.

That said, at age 74 he maybe should stop piloting planes. It will be interesting to see whether the FAA suspends his license.

IMHO, when you are in charge of what is essentially a flying bomb, and you are putting many lives at risk, "fair" isn't exactly the side on which the authorities should err. His next big mistake could kill someone.

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Snoopp — Wed, 15 Feb 2017 13:40:30 GMT

He was given instructions and repeated them back to the tower but landed on a taxiway. I'd say when you can't follow the instructions given, for whatever reason, you've got a big problem and become a threat to the safety of other aircraft.

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SahmIam — Wed, 15 Feb 2017 13:43:57 GMT

I don't know...my FIL is 82 and he and my MIL sail their boats all over the world for weeks at a time. If you met them, you would NEVER think they were in their 80's...more like early 60's. Mentally, they are both sharp as a tack (as one says) and very physically fit.

I watched Harrison Ford on a talk show a month or so ago and either he was putting on an act (and thinks he's charming or funny or something) or he's mentally slowing down and not in a good way; if it's the latter, then perhaps he does need to be grounded permanently. Hopefully this event will cause the Powers That Be to investigate what exactly happened and see if he truly needs to stop flying (and driving and anything else that can cause harm to others in this capacity).

It's not the age...it's the ability of the mind and/or the body. Those issues are not reserved for older individuals, as we all know, so I'm very hesistant to say "oh because he's XYZ age, he needs to stop this". Like I said, hopefully it'll be looked into carefully and then a determination will be made.

Thank God no one was hurt.

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Pearlee — Wed, 15 Feb 2017 15:01:56 GMT

@PurpleBunny wrote:

@Pearlee wrote:
I don't think you all are being quite fair. That incident a couple of years ago with the very, very old plane was due to the plane's mechanical failure. As the article in the link points out near the end, Ford received high praise for even having been able to land the disabled plane, and away from any place where someone else got hurt. It's a miracle he was able to land and survived that - the crash wasn't his fault.

That said, at age 74 he maybe should stop piloting planes. It will be interesting to see whether the FAA suspends his license.

IMHO, when you are in charge of what is essentially a flying bomb, and you are putting many lives at risk, "fair" isn't exactly the side on which the authorities should err. His next big mistake could kill someone.

@PurpleBunny Reread my post. My "fairness" comment was about the posters here on this thread. I have confidence that that FAA investigation authorities will do the right thing but I wasn't talking about them and fairness. You mjust have misread something about my post.