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Question for Moderators please

SeaMaiden — Fri, 03 Feb 2017 19:35:14 GMT

How come QVC is selling religion jewelry, the hosts are saying prayers and talking about the Holy Mother on QVC programing, yet if we even say a prayer or blessing on a thread, the post or thread gets removed? Maybe a moderator could enlighten me on this? I am asking out of confusion... and just want clarity. Thank-you.

Re: Question for Moderators please

suzyQ3 — Fri, 03 Feb 2017 19:42:39 GMT

I hope that you get an answer. My take would be that what the company sells has nothing to do with keeping a message board free of contentious subjects.

My other take is that I don't care for elaborate and blatant religious sales techniques or elaborate and blatant religious promotion of these boards.

Re: Question for Moderators please

KingstonsMom — Fri, 03 Feb 2017 19:43:07 GMT

QVC selling religious items and posters discussing religion on the forums are 2 totally separate things.

The difference is that it's against Community Standards to discuss religion here, because invariably the threads turn ugly and argumentative.

But you knew that already since this subject has been discussed here ad nauseum.

Re: Question for Moderators please

makena — Fri, 03 Feb 2017 19:45:22 GMT

For real?

Re: Question for Moderators please

goldensrbest — Fri, 03 Feb 2017 19:46:19 GMT

I personally think both should be allowed.

Re: Question for Moderators please

Noel7 — Fri, 03 Feb 2017 19:50:53 GMT

@KingstonsMom wrote:
QVC selling religious items and posters discussing religion on the forums are 2 totally separate things.

The difference is that it's against Community Standards to discuss religion here, because invariably the threads turn ugly and argumentative.

But you knew that already since this subject has been discussed here ad nauseum.

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Pretty much anything on this board can and will turn ugly and argumentative.

Including religion into conversation used to be allowed on the Among Friends board, then not. I saw quite a few of those conversations, they rarely included ugly or overtly argumentative remarks.

Re: Question for Moderators please

KingstonsMom — Fri, 03 Feb 2017 19:52:14 GMT

@goldensrbest wrote:
I personally think both should be allowed.

I personally don't. For many reasons.

Re: Question for Moderators please

Noel7 — Fri, 03 Feb 2017 19:53:43 GMT

@KingstonsMom wrote:
@goldensrbest wrote:
I personally think both should be allowed.

I personally don't. For many reasons.

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Why not? If it's civil and confined to one board only?

Re: Question for Moderators please

dex — Fri, 03 Feb 2017 19:56:03 GMT

We don't have freedom of religion on the boards.I know most of the hosts seem to be religious from things they have said over the years and yes they do sell religious items but they never get around to representing all religions either....surprised they don't get complaints.

Re: Question for Moderators please

Moonchilde — Fri, 03 Feb 2017 20:03:40 GMT

@dex wrote:
We don't have freedom of religion on the boards.I know most of the hosts seem to be religious from things they have said over the years and yes they do sell religious items but they never get around to representing all religions either....surprised they don't get complaints.

They have gotten comments about it here on the forums in Suggestions and Customer Care, and they are ignored. But I have to presume that when they have offered for example Judaica or Buddhist or Muslim items in the past, they never sell in quantities sufficient to keep doing it.

So, not financially viable on QVC - but HSN has a variety of religious & cultural jewelry and they continue to offer it, so it must be viable for them. Hmmmm....

Re: Question for Moderators please

goldensrbest — Fri, 03 Feb 2017 20:11:38 GMT

Gloriajean,had a daily thread,and that was stopped,so many enjoyed it.

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CouponQueen — Fri, 03 Feb 2017 20:13:43 GMT

Two very different things.

Selling the item ..they are on a TV station that you can turn if you do not like the item being presented. They are in the biz to sell and make money..so what they do on air..to encourage sales and what they want posters posting and battling each other over something that is not helping them is another thing.

This is their forum sponsored really for their convenience.. why should people come here and get into it over religion? This is not the place for it. Offering a prayer for somebody losing their mother..or illness is one thing..but quite another when people start preaching. This is their playground and if we do not like the rules and can't pull our big girl panties on..or boys britches..then we can find another playground to our liking.

I do not understand where people think that they owe us anything here. Especially being called out on something like this.

Re: Question for Moderators please

goldensrbest — Fri, 03 Feb 2017 20:18:22 GMT

Noel ,is right look at how many threads get deleted because people start causing trouble,if you don't like a thread why not pass by it?

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Noel7 — Fri, 03 Feb 2017 20:19:53 GMT

@CouponQueen wrote:
Two very different things.

Selling the item ..they are on a TV station that you can turn if you do not like the item being presented. They are in the biz to sell and make money..so what they do on air..to encourage sales and what they want posters posting and battling each other over something that is not helping them is another thing.

This is their forum sponsored really for their convenience.. why should people come here and get into it over religion? This is not the place for it. Offering a prayer for somebody losing their mother..or illness is one thing..but quite another when people start preaching. This is their playground and if we do not like the rules and can't pull our big girl panties on..or boys britches..then we can find another playground to our liking.

I do not understand where people think that they owe us anything here. Especially being called out on something like this.

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They DID allow it for quite awhile. Some trolls showed up on Viewpoints, but some trolls showed up for just about any discussion.

When it was moved to Among Friends, the mods did a good job of pulling the few troll comments. There was no reason I know of to take it away from people who were civil, people who offered a prayer for someone else.

The only reason I can think of is that people who thought like you complained.

Re: Question for Moderators please

esmerelda — Fri, 03 Feb 2017 20:25:08 GMT

@CouponQueen wrote:
Two very different things.

Selling the item ..they are on a TV station that you can turn if you do not like the item being presented. They are in the biz to sell and make money..so what they do on air..to encourage sales and what they want posters posting and battling each other over something that is not helping them is another thing.

This is their forum sponsored really for their convenience.. why should people come here and get into it over religion? This is not the place for it. Offering a prayer for somebody losing their mother..or illness is one thing..but quite another when people start preaching. This is their playground and if we do not like the rules and can't pull our big girl panties on..or boys britches..then we can find another playground to our liking.

I do not understand where people think that they owe us anything here. Especially being called out on something like this.

And if you don't like the topic being discussed, choose another forum or another thread.

But we all know people like to argue and are even grumbling when they turn off what they don't want to watch on TV.

Re: Question for Moderators please

Moonchilde — Fri, 03 Feb 2017 20:25:57 GMT

@CouponQueen wrote:
Two very different things.

Selling the item ..they are on a TV station that you can turn if you do not like the item being presented. They are in the biz to sell and make money..so what they do on air..to encourage sales and what they want posters posting and battling each other over something that is not helping them is another thing.

This is their forum sponsored really for their convenience.. why should people come here and get into it over religion? This is not the place for it. Offering a prayer for somebody losing their mother..or illness is one thing..but quite another when people start preaching. This is their playground and if we do not like the rules and can't pull our big girl panties on..or boys britches..then we can find another playground to our liking.

I do not understand where people think that they owe us anything here. Especially being called out on something like this.

And it's not true that prayers can't be asked for, or offered, on the forums. It continues to happen fairly frequently. But there may be a post, and/or posters, who feel the need to cross a line in defiance of QVC and those *will* be removed.

Quoted scripture is not allowed (which is not, strictly speaking, a prayer anyway) and graphics which contain copyrighted material are not allowed. It doesn't seem to me that it would be too difficult to remember those things and not do them. But if they occur multiple times within a thread, yes, the thread may go. As it should for violating standards.

Re: Question for Moderators please

Kachina624 — Fri, 03 Feb 2017 20:28:26 GMT

@goldensrbest wrote:
I personally think both should be allowed.

@goldensrbest Well have to agree to disagree, because I think religion is out of place on a shopping channel and it's community board.

Re: Question for Moderators please

Allegheny — Fri, 03 Feb 2017 20:30:03 GMT

Two different issues.

QVC presents spiritual or religious products for their customers who are interested and wish to purchase. I would expect that during the presentations, the conversation would be of a spiritual nature. Something QVC can control.

On the forums such subjects can become a free-for-all and I guess the Q decided that trying to keep them civil was too much of a challenge therefore, banning these subjects, including prayer or blessing threads entirely.

We don't know if the Q was getting complaints regarding the prayer or blessing threads. You know people complain about every little thing.

As far as the hosts talking spirituality outside of a show relating to religious jewelry or decor, then if customers are offended they contact QVC Corporate. They will most likely would address it with their hosts if enough of the consumers took issue.

Re: Question for Moderators please

Eva-QVC — Sat, 04 Feb 2017 12:51:26 GMT

@SeaMaiden wrote:

How come QVC is selling religion jewelry, the hosts are saying prayers and talking about the Holy Mother on QVC programing, yet if we even say a prayer or blessing on a thread, the post or thread gets removed? Maybe a moderator could enlighten me on this? I am asking out of confusion... and just want clarity. Thank-you.

Hello @SeaMaiden - I would be happy to answer your question. The Community Forums are completely separate from on-air programming.

In the forums, we have found that religious discussions almost always don’t end well and that’s not a friendly experience for anyone, so it is not allowed. Hope this helps to clarify. Thanks!

Re: Question for Moderators please

cherry — Fri, 03 Feb 2017 20:30:45 GMT

It's a huge board. I don't understand why people would even bother opening a thread they didn't like? It's not as if you have no choice in the matter