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X-Rays vs CT Scan?

Yardlie — Fri, 30 Dec 2016 18:07:44 GMT

I know there are obvious uses for x-rays; however, I wish doctors would let patients have the choice between the x-rays and CT scans. Maybe insurance companies and Medicare require the x-rays first. I don't know. Does anyone know?

In September I fractured my ankle. The x-rays showed nothing. The CT scan done a week later showed a fractured tibia in my ankle.

Now, over the holidays, I hurt my back lifting something. I knew immediately that there was a fracture because I always get a bad burning feeling besides the pain when I fracture a bone. (Yes, I take calcium and Fosamax.) I went to the doctor. He took x-rays and said there was no fracture. Finally, I went to a spine specialist. He ordered a CT scan which showed a fractured vertebrae in my lumbar spine.

I wanted to join a gym as a New Year's resolution. The doctor who took regular x-rays told me I should wait 2 weeks. The spine specialist told me to wait 6-8 weeks until my spine heals.

It is frustrating to get exposed to all that radiation from regular x-rays and then end up needing a CT scan too.

Also, any ideas on how to strengthen my bones besides calcium, Fosamax, and weight-bearing exercise...which is out for the moment. Thanks much!

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MyGirlsMom — Fri, 30 Dec 2016 18:13:30 GMT

CT scans can see everything, not only bones but soft tissue, muscles, tendons, masses, etc.

Your Insurance company probably dictates the protocol your Doctor must use in treating you. X-rays are far less cheaper than CAT scans.

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BarbB — Fri, 30 Dec 2016 18:13:53 GMT

Hi. I'm an x-ray tech and doctors always do regular x-rays first. In many cases that's all you might need, but if problems persist and nothing showed on x-rays, they do further testing. Usually it's an MRI for orthopedic problems, not CTs, which has no radiation. Plain x-rays these days have very minimal radiation.

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Nuttmeg — Fri, 30 Dec 2016 18:19:08 GMT

Sorry to read you are having medical problems, BUT thank goodness you have access to the right tools and doctors.

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SaRina — Fri, 30 Dec 2016 18:22:20 GMT

Hi Brinklii. X-rays should always be done first to assess fractures... and CT scans always the very last choice. A CT scan gives the equivalent amount of radiation as a few hundred "regular" x-rays. Most people are not aware of this. Although, there are newer CT machines that offer a lower dose of radiation and you should ask about that.

Sometimes, if an x-ray is done immediately after the accident, any swelling can obliterate the image so that the fracture cannot be seen until some swelling abates. But MRIs can assess fractures, and you should always ask if you can have an MRI before a CT. Docs are reluctant to order MRIs over CTs because they are more expensive, but you should impress upon them your concern about excessive radiation in a CT.

You might want to have your bone status assessed by either a bone or metabolic specialist. Feel better!

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ALRATIBA — Fri, 30 Dec 2016 18:30:18 GMT

I had both for the same injury ... broken arm. X-ray was done first and then the orthopedic surgeon ordered the CT Scan prior to scheduling surgery.

X-rays can be done right there at the office ... CT Scan had to be done off-premises. Insurance paid for everything - I have no idea what the cost was.

Other problems - x-rays were able to show the problem/injury.

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MalteseMomma — Fri, 30 Dec 2016 18:44:04 GMT

I am sorry you had to suffer because of a mistake

I know you need to exersize and going to a gym is good for you, but my first thought was, "join a gym"..... after a back injury..............no thank you

{{{{{hugs}}}}}

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pitdakota — Fri, 30 Dec 2016 18:45:41 GMT

What @BarbB and @SaRina said.

One other factor is that x-rays are considerably cheaper and less demanding of resources, so when they are ruling out a fracture the x-ray is the first choice. CT scans not only cost more, they demand more time (and therefore cost) of personnel to complete a CT scan.

And as stated, if someone continues to have problems they will then follow up with a CT scan or MRI, depending on the case.

So in the end, your health care provider is the best one to determine whether their patient should have an x-ray or go straight for a CT scan first.

I am so sorry you are having issues with osteoporosis and experiencing factures. I know that has to be frustrating. Just remember that dietary calcium is the best option to supplement calcium. So while calcium supplements are important, make sure you have a good dietary intake of calcium as well.

If you haven't already, make sure and speak with your health care provider about your vitamin D level and make sure you are eating foods that are farily good sources of vitamin D.

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Yardlie — Fri, 30 Dec 2016 19:51:27 GMT

Thank you all for your great advice! I am due for a bone density test when I have my physical in February.

I have not been faithful doing exercise over the years. Also, my physician told me last year to take only 500 mg of calcium pills a day due to the possible cardiac implications. Guess I need to drink more milk...which I have always hated. I have also always been a big soda drinker, so I'm sure that damage has caught up with me also. I need to reform my eating habits...more Vitamin D also!

It is interesting that one person mentioned that MRI's were the preferred method for orthopedic injuries. The ortho doctor that I had last fall for my ankle told me that CT scans were preferred for bone injures, and MRI's were preferred for soft tissue injuries. I guess that is just one more thing that modern medicine is not clear on.

Obviously, the most exercise I can get right now is just walking. Maybe after I get the "all clear" from my spine doc I will begin doing some water exercise in a pool to start out.

Thanks again for all the valuable advice!

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pitdakota — Fri, 30 Dec 2016 20:01:36 GMT

@Brinklii wrote:
Thank you all for your great advice! I am due for a bone density test when I have my physical in February.

I have not been faithful doing exercise over the years. Also, my physician told me last year to take only 500 mg of calcium pills a day due to the possible cardiac implications. Guess I need to drink more milk...which I have always hated. I have also always been a big soda drinker, so I'm sure that damage has caught up with me also. I need to reform my eating habits...more Vitamin D also!

It is interesting that one person mentioned that MRI's were the preferred method for orthopedic injuries. The ortho doctor that I had last fall for my ankle told me that CT scans were preferred for bone injures, and MRI's were preferred for soft tissue injuries. I guess that is just one more thing that modern medicine is not clear on.

Obviously, the most exercise I can get right now is just walking. Maybe after I get the "all clear" from my spine doc I will begin doing some water exercise in a pool to start out.

Thanks again for all the valuable advice!

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@Yardlie, it was @SaRina that posted about the fact that the MRI can be used, but she didn't say they were preferred for orthopedic injuries.

MRIs may be particularly useful after a particular type of fracture has been identified to determine involvement of tendons or ligaments in that particular injury.

But no one here said the MRI was preferred, so I just wanted to clear that up for you so it doesn't cause you more concern. We all stated the x-ray was the standard and preferred diagnostic test for a suspected fracture.

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RetRN — Fri, 30 Dec 2016 20:07:33 GMT

I had severe pain and very limited mobility in my left arm. Insurance dictated I have X-rays first which showed nothing. Then I was allowed to have MRI's which showed a torn bicep tendon.

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KYToby — Fri, 30 Dec 2016 20:24:15 GMT

Sometimes, fractures do not show on X-rays because they have not yet developed. It can take days (or weeks) before they show up which isone reason many hospitals now refer patients to orthopedists after seeing theminthe ER for possiblebreaks.

As farasradiation, your exposure is minimal. You get far more exposure in a single plan ride that you would ever get from multiple x-rays.

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DiAnne — Fri, 30 Dec 2016 20:54:34 GMT

An regular x-ray has minimal radiation. A CT scan has much more because it involves many x-rays taken at multiple levels. I would not have a CT scan without a very good reason.

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phoenixbrd — Fri, 30 Dec 2016 21:14:17 GMT

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Pandalady — Fri, 30 Dec 2016 21:25:52 GMT

@BarbB I have a question for you as an x-ray technician, since you mentioned MRIs. I have a disease that affects both my lungs and kidneys. I used to have CT scans once or twice a year to monitor progress. My doctor has switched to ordering MRIs. I know that it is because of the amount of radiation from CT scans. Are there other benefits for the switch? The reason I am asking is that I am terrified during my MRI tests. I am on oxygen part time but always feel I cann't breathe in there. I endure it because I know that the data will only help me. Just wondering if the MRI really gives that much more information.

Thank you!

Panda

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Pandalady — Fri, 30 Dec 2016 21:27:18 GMT

@Yardlie I am so sorry for what you are experiencing. I sure hope you get the help and relief you need.

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SaRina — Fri, 30 Dec 2016 21:36:39 GMT

@pitdakota wrote:
@Brinklii wrote:
Thank you all for your great advice! I am due for a bone density test when I have my physical in February.

I have not been faithful doing exercise over the years. Also, my physician told me last year to take only 500 mg of calcium pills a day due to the possible cardiac implications. Guess I need to drink more milk...which I have always hated. I have also always been a big soda drinker, so I'm sure that damage has caught up with me also. I need to reform my eating habits...more Vitamin D also!

It is interesting that one person mentioned that MRI's were the preferred method for orthopedic injuries. The ortho doctor that I had last fall for my ankle told me that CT scans were preferred for bone injures, and MRI's were preferred for soft tissue injuries. I guess that is just one more thing that modern medicine is not clear on.

Obviously, the most exercise I can get right now is just walking. Maybe after I get the "all clear" from my spine doc I will begin doing some water exercise in a pool to start out.

Thanks again for all the valuable advice!
____________________________________________________

@Yardlie, it was @SaRina that posted about the fact that the MRI can be used, but she didn't say they were preferred for orthopedic injuries.

MRIs may be particularly useful after a particular type of fracture has been identified to determine involvement of tendons or ligaments in that particular injury.

But no one here said the MRI was preferred, so I just wanted to clear that up for you so it doesn't cause you more concern. We all stated the x-ray was the standard and preferred diagnostic test for a suspected fracture.

@Brinklii, @pitdakota - I alluded to the fact that MRI is preferable to CT because of the fact that there is no radiation involved with MRI. In many cases (perhaps most) and as far as my knowledge, MRI can correctly identify fractures in addition to soft tissue injuries.. There may be some instances where CT is needed, but I would always question my doc as to why CT is necessary and MRI could not be used.

... and this goes for any time a doc orders a CT -- not just to assess fractures. Always ask for MRI and get a satisfactory reason as to why not.

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LTT1 — Fri, 30 Dec 2016 21:56:55 GMT

@phoenixbrd
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Reba055 — Sat, 31 Dec 2016 00:54:27 GMT

CT Scans expose you to ALOT more radiation. In fact, CT scans should be limited if at all possible. Too many CT scans are being performed that aren't necessary.

They also pick up every little thing and can cause you to have unnecessary tests as follow up. This is particularly true in say a chest CT that might pick up nodules which are most often benign.

And of course they are much more expensive. Same as MRI. I understand your frustration in your situation but often the CT is just overkill and can be more detrimental than good.

Hope you feel better!

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Leeny — Sat, 31 Dec 2016 00:11:35 GMT

@Yardlie

@Brinklii wrote:
I know there are obvious uses for x-rays; however, I wish doctors would let patients have the choice between the x-rays and CT scans. Maybe insurance companies and Medicare require the x-rays first. I don't know. Does anyone know?

In September I fractured my ankle. The x-rays showed nothing. The CT scan done a week later showed a fractured tibia in my ankle.

Now, over the holidays, I hurt my back lifting something. I knew immediately that there was a fracture because I always get a bad burning feeling besides the pain when I fracture a bone. (Yes, I take calcium and Fosamax.) I went to the doctor. He took x-rays and said there was no fracture. Finally, I went to a spine specialist. He ordered a CT scan which showed a fractured vertebrae in my lumbar spine.

I wanted to join a gym as a New Year's resolution. The doctor who took regular x-rays told me I should wait 2 weeks. The spine specialist told me to wait 6-8 weeks until my spine heals.

It is frustrating to get exposed to all that radiation from regular x-rays and then end up needing a CT scan too.

Also, any ideas on how to strengthen my bones besides calcium, Fosamax, and weight-bearing exercise...which is out for the moment. Thanks much!

I was in the hospital in October and before I was admitted I had a X-ray and later they did a CT scan. Well this should tell you why you get the X-ray first..

X-ray $168 and CT scan $2800 I think that says it all.

Vitamin D is good for strengthening bones, but check with your dr. first as to how much you should take.