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    <title>topic Re: Frost Guard TSV in Q Talk</title>
    <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Q-Talk/Frost-Guard-TSV/m-p/2244595#M39476</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#800080" size="2"&gt;They always compare a TSV, OTO or other event price to the QVC price to make it look like it is a bigger savings, instead of comparing it to the feature price or clearance price for the item, which is what the item either sold for yesterday or will tomorrow.&amp;nbsp; I've found as a general rule, the featured price is about 10% lower than the QVC price.&amp;nbsp; The TSV price can be up to 10% less than the featured price.&amp;nbsp; Certainly not the bargains they used to be.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2015 21:13:07 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>SHIRAZ</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2015-10-25T21:13:07Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Frost Guard TSV</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Q-Talk/Frost-Guard-TSV/m-p/2244390#M39462</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;It's interesting that the Frost Guard tsv was selling for $24 and change and they showed the regular QVC price as $29 and change. &amp;nbsp;However, they are now selling for $26 and change. &amp;nbsp;I thought I was getting a real bargain saving $5-6 when in fact for only $2 more I could have bought it today. &amp;nbsp;Bait and switch!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2015 19:39:58 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Q-Talk/Frost-Guard-TSV/m-p/2244390#M39462</guid>
      <dc:creator>K9buddy</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-10-25T19:39:58Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Frost Guard TSV</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Q-Talk/Frost-Guard-TSV/m-p/2244398#M39464</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Wow, interesting... Let the buyer beware!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2015 19:44:54 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Q-Talk/Frost-Guard-TSV/m-p/2244398#M39464</guid>
      <dc:creator>handygal2</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-10-25T19:44:54Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Frost Guard TSV</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Q-Talk/Frost-Guard-TSV/m-p/2244451#M39467</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Very typical of so many of the Q's TSV's these days. &amp;nbsp;Rarely are they worthwhile any more. &amp;nbsp;Very sad.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2015 20:15:41 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Q-Talk/Frost-Guard-TSV/m-p/2244451#M39467</guid>
      <dc:creator>Krimpette</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-10-25T20:15:41Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Frost Guard TSV</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Q-Talk/Frost-Guard-TSV/m-p/2244457#M39468</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;You still saved a couple of bucks plus tax. &amp;nbsp;I've noticed though during the gifting season, they don't take the item to regular price even after it's TSV, but continue to offer a discounted price, just not as good as it was as the TSV.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I don't consider it bait &amp;amp; switch. &amp;nbsp;Bait &amp;amp; switch would be if they showed one product but delivered a cheaper different product.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2015 20:17:36 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Q-Talk/Frost-Guard-TSV/m-p/2244457#M39468</guid>
      <dc:creator>Buck-i-Nana</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-10-25T20:17:36Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Frost Guard TSV</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Q-Talk/Frost-Guard-TSV/m-p/2244460#M39469</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Usually when the TSV does not sell out, it goes to the Featured Price next day, which is always not far from the TSV price. Whoever said the TSV price is a bargain to begin with??&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2015 20:18:46 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Q-Talk/Frost-Guard-TSV/m-p/2244460#M39469</guid>
      <dc:creator>Shelbelle</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-10-25T20:18:46Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Frost Guard TSV</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Q-Talk/Frost-Guard-TSV/m-p/2244474#M39470</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Many thanks for the lesson on bait and switch.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2015 20:23:05 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Q-Talk/Frost-Guard-TSV/m-p/2244474#M39470</guid>
      <dc:creator>K9buddy</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-10-25T20:23:05Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Frost Guard TSV</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Q-Talk/Frost-Guard-TSV/m-p/2244481#M39471</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/10322"&gt;@K9buddy&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;Many thanks for the lesson on bait and switch.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;My response wasn't intended to be a lesson, just sharing my opinion which apparently wasn't welcome.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Oh well.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If you think you've been duped, file a complaint with the BBB and any other agency that looks at and combats illegal sales tactics.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2015 20:25:12 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Q-Talk/Frost-Guard-TSV/m-p/2244481#M39471</guid>
      <dc:creator>Buck-i-Nana</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-10-25T20:25:12Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Frost Guard TSV</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Q-Talk/Frost-Guard-TSV/m-p/2244563#M39473</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;TSVs' "value" is not what they use to be, that is for sure.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2015 20:56:19 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Q-Talk/Frost-Guard-TSV/m-p/2244563#M39473</guid>
      <dc:creator>Peaches McPhee</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-10-25T20:56:19Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Frost Guard TSV</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Q-Talk/Frost-Guard-TSV/m-p/2244569#M39474</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Many times TSVs are a little lower the next day. &amp;nbsp;I consider the price when I buy. &amp;nbsp;I could wait til the next day or until reviews come in, but I may have wanted a certain color that sold out.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2015 20:58:21 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Q-Talk/Frost-Guard-TSV/m-p/2244569#M39474</guid>
      <dc:creator>GCR18</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-10-25T20:58:21Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Frost Guard TSV</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Q-Talk/Frost-Guard-TSV/m-p/2244595#M39476</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#800080" size="2"&gt;They always compare a TSV, OTO or other event price to the QVC price to make it look like it is a bigger savings, instead of comparing it to the feature price or clearance price for the item, which is what the item either sold for yesterday or will tomorrow.&amp;nbsp; I've found as a general rule, the featured price is about 10% lower than the QVC price.&amp;nbsp; The TSV price can be up to 10% less than the featured price.&amp;nbsp; Certainly not the bargains they used to be.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2015 21:13:07 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Q-Talk/Frost-Guard-TSV/m-p/2244595#M39476</guid>
      <dc:creator>SHIRAZ</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-10-25T21:13:07Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Frost Guard TSV</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Q-Talk/Frost-Guard-TSV/m-p/2244940#M39482</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;Yep, that's not much of a bargain but that's not a bait and switch scheme. &amp;nbsp;Bait and switch is when you're lured into a store by a bargain price, they don't have the advertised item and try to sell you a more expensive one.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2015 23:41:34 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Q-Talk/Frost-Guard-TSV/m-p/2244940#M39482</guid>
      <dc:creator>Kachina624</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-10-25T23:41:34Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Frost Guard TSV</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Q-Talk/Frost-Guard-TSV/m-p/2244968#M39483</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Many thanks for the second lesson on bait and switch.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2015 23:53:28 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Q-Talk/Frost-Guard-TSV/m-p/2244968#M39483</guid>
      <dc:creator>K9buddy</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-10-25T23:53:28Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Frost Guard TSV</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Q-Talk/Frost-Guard-TSV/m-p/2244982#M39484</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;This is not a criticism of the OP, but a general observation based upon the threads we see here on a regular basis.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;There seems to be nothing that QVC can do right.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Posters complain that the prices are too high, and now people complain that the prices are not high enough.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;People complain that shipping is too high, but when QVC lowers shipping, people complain.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;People complain there are not enough sales, but then they complain that there are too many OTOs.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;People complain that there are not enough easy pays, but then they complain about the flash easy pays and that QVC offers three easy pays on all QVC credit card orders.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;People complain that the bords were not moderated enough, but now they complain that the boards are too moderated.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;People complained when threads were deleted without explanation, but now they omplain about the explanations.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Please, for the love of all that is holy, make up your minds and stop complaining and whining.&amp;nbsp; It is just a shopping channel for crying out loud.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2015 00:00:30 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Q-Talk/Frost-Guard-TSV/m-p/2244982#M39484</guid>
      <dc:creator>KYToby</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-10-26T00:00:30Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Frost Guard TSV</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Q-Talk/Frost-Guard-TSV/m-p/2244995#M39485</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I don't mean to be rude, but I'm just not seeing a lot of the things you say people are complaining about. &amp;nbsp;I realize it's just a shopping channel, but since people shop here, they're entitled to have an opinion about their shopping experience here just as they would be about anyplace else they shop.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2015 00:27:16 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Q-Talk/Frost-Guard-TSV/m-p/2244995#M39485</guid>
      <dc:creator>K9buddy</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-10-26T00:27:16Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Frost Guard TSV</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Q-Talk/Frost-Guard-TSV/m-p/2245005#M39486</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;it didnt stop me from buying six of them.......the pricing seemed reasonable to me so i bought some to give for christmas......or sooner if the snow starts early.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2015 00:16:33 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Q-Talk/Frost-Guard-TSV/m-p/2245005#M39486</guid>
      <dc:creator>sunshine45</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-10-26T00:16:33Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Frost Guard TSV</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Q-Talk/Frost-Guard-TSV/m-p/2245064#M39487</link>
      <description>This post has been removed by QVC because it's argumentative</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2015 00:26:22 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Q-Talk/Frost-Guard-TSV/m-p/2245064#M39487</guid>
      <dc:creator>Wayne-QVC</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-10-26T00:26:22Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Frost Guard TSV</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Q-Talk/Frost-Guard-TSV/m-p/2245281#M39489</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/65878"&gt;@KYToby&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;This is not a criticism of the OP, but a general observation based upon the threads we see here on a regular basis.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;There seems to be nothing that QVC can do right.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Posters complain that the prices are too high, and now people complain that the prices are not high enough.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;People complain that shipping is too high, but when QVC lowers shipping, people complain.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;People complain there are not enough sales, but then they complain that there are too many OTOs.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;People complain that there are not enough easy pays, but then they complain about the flash easy pays and that QVC offers three easy pays on all QVC credit card orders.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;People complain that the bords were not moderated enough, but now they complain that the boards are too moderated.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;People complained when threads were deleted without explanation, but now they omplain about the explanations.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Please, for the love of all that is holy, make up your minds and stop complaining and whining.&amp;nbsp; It is just a shopping channel for crying out loud.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Toby, exactly. It IS just a shopping channel and these are just the forums associated with a shopping channel. There truly is no reason to go off the rails because the opinions of others don't make sense to you. Consider taking a page from your own book and just let it go... As long as people have the ability to express their thougts, feelings and opinions, they're going to do so, whether they always seem valid to you&amp;nbsp;or not...&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'd also submit that in your efforts to support all that is Q, whatever your reasons... your post above would likely be seen by some of those expressing concerns outlined as at least a bit of an oversimplification of some of the issues...&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;It is what it is...&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;img id="smileyhappy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyhappy" src="https://community.qvc.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.png" alt="Smiley Happy" title="Smiley Happy" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2015 02:51:22 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Q-Talk/Frost-Guard-TSV/m-p/2245281#M39489</guid>
      <dc:creator>stevieb</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-10-26T02:51:22Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Frost Guard TSV</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Q-Talk/Frost-Guard-TSV/m-p/2245285#M39490</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/10322"&gt;@K9buddy&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;I don't mean to be rude, but I'm just not seeing a lot of the things you say people are complaining about. &amp;nbsp;I realize it's just a shopping channel, but since people shop here, they're entitled to have an opinion about their shopping experience here just as they would be about anyplace else they shop.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Exactly, I guess we should all just talk about rainbows and unicorns and not &lt;I&gt;dare &lt;/I&gt;complain about anything&lt;I&gt;. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/I&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2015 02:42:13 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Q-Talk/Frost-Guard-TSV/m-p/2245285#M39490</guid>
      <dc:creator>Yankee2000</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-10-26T02:42:13Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Frost Guard TSV</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Q-Talk/Frost-Guard-TSV/m-p/2245320#M39492</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/10179"&gt;@Krimpette&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;Very typical of so many of the Q's TSV's these days. &amp;nbsp;Rarely are they worthwhile any more. &amp;nbsp;Very sad.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'd agree and rarely are they even remotely exciting. QVC and the TSV's have largely become very bland, and the increased and incessant focus on the TSV's only adds to the tedium.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2015 03:53:16 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Q-Talk/Frost-Guard-TSV/m-p/2245320#M39492</guid>
      <dc:creator>stevieb</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-10-26T03:53:16Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Frost Guard TSV</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Q-Talk/Frost-Guard-TSV/m-p/2246070#M39504</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Amazon sells them&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2015 14:05:04 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Q-Talk/Frost-Guard-TSV/m-p/2246070#M39504</guid>
      <dc:creator>MalteseMomma</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-10-26T14:05:04Z</dc:date>
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