topic Re: Question to Moderators in Q Talk

Question to Moderators

Adelina — Fri, 14 Aug 2015 23:39:56 GMT

Can you please explain when you say a post is "off topic", especially when the thread is a disguised Political or Controversial thread? It seems that many threads have been started lately which turn out to be of the latter variety - posters trying to disguise and start a controversial discussion, so as to thwart the standards/guidelines, yet those stay but individual posts are deleted for being "off topic".

Re: Question to Moderators

CalminHeart — Fri, 14 Aug 2015 23:48:31 GMT

This isn't grade school. People on this forum need to grow thicker skin. I never could figure out why people got upset if their posts were poofed. It's just the way it is. This is Q's site and they can do anything they want with it.

Re: Question to Moderators

Adelina — Sat, 15 Aug 2015 00:05:40 GMT

@CalminHeart wrote:
This isn't grade school. People on this forum need to grow thicker skin. I never could figure out why people got upset if their posts were poofed. It's just the way it is. This is Q's site and they can do anything they want with it.

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This was NOT about me and having a post "poofed". I did NOT have a post "poofed". So please, do not make assumptions.

I am wanting to know if the moderators take into account the disengenous starting of threads about controversial or political topics. I guess this is no different than trolling behavior that attempts to hide under the radar.

And, btw, calling people juvenile doesn't advance the matter either.

Re: Question to Moderators

Moonchilde — Sat, 15 Aug 2015 01:15:26 GMT

Adelina, one guess would be that with a hot-potato, could go at any moment thread, the posts that go off in tangents attacking either a person being discussed (a candidate), or posters attacking each other, would be considered off topic. It might be QVC's subtle way of trying to keep the thread going in a direction least likely to require poofing of the whole thing.

Re: Question to Moderators

Reever — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 02:35:17 GMT

Personally I think the moderators, while good intentioned, have taken the life out of these forums. One of my posts qualified as "host bashing" simply because I did not care for an outfit they were wearing!!! Free speech people!! Its scary where this once great country is heading.

Re: Question to Moderators

suzyQ3 — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 23:11:37 GMT

@Reever wrote:
Personally I think the moderators, while good intentioned, have taken the life out of these forums. One of my posts qualified as "host bashing" simply because I did not care for an outfit they were wearing!!! Free speech people!! Its scary where this once great country is heading.

Reever, so sorry for your confusion. This is not a national crisis. Your right to free speech ends when you step out of the public arena and enter a private domain.

Re: Question to Moderators

Adelina — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 20:23:12 GMT

@suzyQ3 wrote:
@Reever wrote:
Personally I think the moderators, while good intentioned, have taken the life out of these forums. One of my posts qualified as "host bashing" simply because I did not care for an outfit they were wearing!!! Free speech people!! Its scary where this once great country is heading.
Reever, so sorry for you confusion. This is not a national crisis. Your right to free speech ends when you step out of the public arena and enter a private domain.

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Yes! And even in the public domain there are limits, like speech which incites violence/hatred.

Re: Question to Moderators

Poodlelover — Sun, 23 Aug 2015 04:22:33 GMT

I just don't understand the logic on removal of some posts. I posted something in a reply that I did not think was unkind at all, in fact was sympathetic I thought and it was removed, yet there is a whole thread on a host talking too fast and some unkind things said and it is still up. Don't get who decides what is fair for free speech and what isn't, but it is their website and forum so will voice my opinion elsewhere.

Re: Question to Moderators

okaywitheasypay — Sun, 23 Aug 2015 12:21:33 GMT

" but it is their website " I think that answers who decides

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debic — Sun, 23 Aug 2015 12:29:48 GMT

@Poodlelover wrote:
I just don't understand the logic on removal of some posts. I posted something in a reply that I did not think was unkind at all, in fact was sympathetic I thought and it was removed, yet there is a whole thread on a host talking too fast and some unkind things said and it is still up. Don't get who decides what is fair for free speech and what isn't, but it is their website and forum so will voice my opinion elsewhere.

I'm not sure why some stay open myself, but the host bashing threads always start out ok and people get pretty nasty about it. I figure it's preventative measures. Which a lot of boards do.

Re: Question to Moderators

CalminHeart — Sun, 23 Aug 2015 12:41:53 GMT

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CalmInTheHeart wrote:
This isn't grade school. People on this forum need to grow thicker skin. I never could figure out why people got upset if their posts were poofed. It's just the way it is. This is Q's site and they can do anything they want with it.
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This was NOT about me and having a post "poofed". I did NOT have a post "poofed". So please, do not make assumptions.

I am wanting to know if the moderators take into account the disengenous starting of threads about controversial or political topics. I guess this is no different than trolling behavior that attempts to hide under the radar.

And, btw, calling people juvenile doesn't advance the matter either.
I Discovered That I Can Be Myself Without the Sky Falling In

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My response stands. I don't understand why people get so worked up about what others post. We are adults. I assume most people have bigger issues to worry about. If not, I'd like to trade.

Re: Question to Moderators

Poodlelover — Sun, 23 Aug 2015 14:46:47 GMT

But go read the "Kirsten, slow down" post...it is still up and there are some unkind things and bashing of her said but that post is left up..can't figure it out.

Re: Question to Moderators

stevieb — Sun, 23 Aug 2015 15:01:59 GMT

@Reever wrote:
Personally I think the moderators, while good intentioned, have taken the life out of these forums. One of my posts qualified as "host bashing" simply because I did not care for an outfit they were wearing!!! Free speech people!! Its scary where this once great country is heading.

I agree, over-moderation has resulted in less interesting forums, and while the overall tendency these days toward overtly or covertly punishing any and all instances of non-politically correct commentary has become pretty sad, I don't necessarily see the over-moderation of these forums, (as annoying, and as limiting of interesting repartee as it can be and often is...) as a free speech issue.

Re: Question to Moderators

dooBdoo — Mon, 24 Aug 2015 00:54:15 GMT

I can understand the desire to know the reasons for the removal of posts or threads, and I admit sometimes I'm frustrated when it happens.

I don't mean to imply we can't discuss it again, but the answer is always the same.

Owned and operated by a business instantly means they have to consider the things they think might be offensive to their customers or potential customers -- not only those who post here, but also those who read without ever having registered for the Community. In their Standards they include the fact that they'll remove anything they deem unacceptable. Add to that the fact that there are many moderators, they're human, and they're tasked with interpreting the standards... so it always will be subjective and uneven to some degree. And sometimes I think we forget that we agree to the standards when we create an account and use this (or any) forum.

Even though this subject was often discussed before the launch of the new platform, the fact that they used to allow more of those things than they do now might have made it easy to forget these forums never were designed to be a "no holds barred" chat site for potentially incendiary topics. There are other social media sites for that. So, in a way, coming here expecting this to be a political or controversial-topic chat board is like going to a shoe store and expecting to find cookware.

I've never really felt they owe me an explanation, even when I wish I understood or I wish a thread/post had been allowed to remain. For the most part, I consider posts to be ephemeral and I don't count on this to be a place to save information permanently. But, again, I understand the frustration.

Re: Question to Moderators

Moonchilde — Mon, 24 Aug 2015 03:39:45 GMT

@Poodlelover wrote:
I just don't understand the logic on removal of some posts. I posted something in a reply that I did not think was unkind at all, in fact was sympathetic I thought and it was removed, yet there is a whole thread on a host talking too fast and some unkind things said and it is still up. Don't get who decides what is fair for free speech and what isn't, but it is their website and forum so will voice my opinion elsewhere.

It is largely whether a post is reported or not. If someone thought you might be being snippy to them, or someone else just doesn't like you, they may report your post. And *some* moderators take the easy way out and delete things just because someone reports them. That should not be, but it is.

Re: Question to Moderators

Moonchilde — Mon, 24 Aug 2015 03:42:29 GMT

@Poodlelover wrote:
But go read the "Kirsten, slow down" post...it is still up and there are some unkind things and bashing of her said but that post is left up..can't figure it out.

Because people read the bashing, unkind comments, think to themselves "that's not right, it should be deleted" - but they don't report it. And many posters rely on people not reporting things.

Re: Question to Moderators

febe1 — Mon, 24 Aug 2015 09:44:43 GMT

I think the mandated reporters cause the uneveness in what stays and what is removed. This is why you see Kirsten posts remain, Susan Graver posts remain, etc., while the protected are removed.

Re: Question to Moderators

Honeybunsmom — Tue, 25 Aug 2015 04:36:55 GMT

I had a post about last nights special, it wasn't nasty or mean spirited , just a comment about it and they wouldn't post it! I was surprised, I don't even post that much!!

Re: Question to Moderators

febe1 — Tue, 25 Aug 2015 14:10:41 GMT

@bargainsgirl mom wrote:
I had a post about last nights special, it wasn't nasty or mean spirited , just a comment about it and they wouldn't post it! I was surprised, I don't even post that much!!

You could have unknowingly used a word that the system would not allow.