topic Re: "On Holiday Morning" phrase in Q Talk

"On Holiday Morning" phrase

mormel20 — Mon, 05 Dec 2022 20:55:52 GMT

I was watching QVC over the weekend. There was a vendor who was talking about giving a gift "On Holiday Morning." It sort of makes me depressed that Christmas has become a word to be avoided. I know they want to be "all inclusive" for all people. But it still makes me sad.

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QVCkitty1 — Mon, 05 Dec 2022 21:04:14 GMT

@mormel20wrote:
I was watching QVC over the weekend. There was a vendor who was talking about giving a gift "On Holiday Morning." It sort of makes me depressed that Christmas has become a word to be avoided. I know they want to be "all inclusive" for all people. But it still makes me sad.

@mormel20, With respect, why ? It changes nothing for those of us who celebrate Christmas. I like living in a more inclusive world, and frankly what makes me sad is how aggressive ( not you ) get about holiday greetings this time of year. Because I know how you feel, I hope you have a Merry Christmas, but please don't be sad because others feel included .

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Kachina624 — Mon, 05 Dec 2022 21:04:21 GMT

@mormel20

So be sad if you must. All people of all beliefs deserved to have their ideals included in the "holiday" classification. It's not exclusive or limited to any one group or religious sect.

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kaydee50 — Mon, 05 Dec 2022 21:09:39 GMT

It's fine to be "inclusive" but there would be no "holiday" morning without Christmas. It started out as a religious holiday and now has morphed into a secular one. But it still is Christmas. Or are we going to start calling it something else???

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On It — Mon, 05 Dec 2022 21:14:34 GMT

At one point I read there are seven holidays celebrated between Thanksgiving and early January. Viewers may be buying gifts for any of those occasions.

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QVCkitty1 — Mon, 05 Dec 2022 21:15:37 GMT

@kaydee50wrote:
It's fine to be "inclusive" but there would be no "holiday" morning without Christmas. It started out as a religious holiday and now has morphed into a secular one. But it still is Christmas. Or are we going to start calling it something else???

@kaydee50, You can call it anything you like, and so can everyone else.

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Caaareful Shopper — Mon, 05 Dec 2022 21:15:47 GMT

The vendor was probably being all inclusive -- Christmas morning, Hanukkah mornings, Kwanzaa mornings, and any other revered special holiday held during this sacred time. But instead they said holiday morning.

Personally, I think it's better and more heartfelt to say the holidays separately. It only takes 2 more seconds. But it sounds like the vendor was trying not to exclude anyone. I respect that consideration.

What bothers me is some who try to turn that welcoming word, holiday, into some sort of division.

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Foxxee — Mon, 05 Dec 2022 21:25:39 GMT

@kaydee50

"It started out as a religious holiday and now has morphed into a secular one. But it still is Christmas."

Yes, who started moving it so far from it's original intent?

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SloopJohnB — Mon, 05 Dec 2022 21:29:28 GMT

@kaydee50wrote:
It's fine to be "inclusive" but there would be no "holiday" morning without Christmas. It started out as a religious holiday and now has morphed into a secular one. But it still is Christmas. Or are we going to start calling it something else???

@kaydee50Not just secular, but full blown commercialism. 🎁💲🎁💲🎁💲

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on the bay — Mon, 05 Dec 2022 21:42:09 GMT

I learned recently thru the Hallmark live favorite holiday movies surprisingly that Christmas did not actually start as a religious holiday!

You can read about it by searching.

It started before as a winter festival

before it became the day of birth which no one knew really what day

so King Constantine chose a day and chose Dec 25th.

Dec 25th was originally celebrated by the Romans to celebrate the birth of their sun god Mithra. Imagine that!

Lots of interesting things about how Christmas came about as it is today.

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Susanp301 — Mon, 05 Dec 2022 21:46:09 GMT

Yes there would be a holiday morning without Christmas for those of us who do not celebrate Christmas. For me it would be Hanukkah which happened well before Christmas. QVC has spent the past 6 months pushing Christmas to the exclusion of almost anything else. Acknowledging other holidays won't hurt those who celebrate Christmas. I am offended by your premise.

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Junebug54 — Mon, 05 Dec 2022 22:00:56 GMT

@mormel20I agree with you 100%. Stop changing the name of a special czy

@mormel20I agree... if you are offended by Christmas by all means don't celebrate it then. But please don't change the name. Where did all of this nonsense start? It is celebration of the birth of Christ... Suppose this will get deleted... Sad but true. What do you of those are appalled

@mormel20I absolutely agree with you 100%. People are decorating, buying gifts etc. but deny saying Christmas... It is the birth of Christ....Hypocritical in my mind.

!because someone may be offended. It's Christmas!!

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proudlyfromNJ — Mon, 05 Dec 2022 22:11:26 GMT

You need to let the ones in charge at QVC know how you feel. How will they know if no one tells them. @Junebug54

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Shanus — Mon, 05 Dec 2022 22:38:10 GMT

.....yet I need to be cautious about a menorah in my window or Hanukkah decor on my door? Being in the majority must feel safe to many.

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Kachina624 — Mon, 05 Dec 2022 22:43:39 GMT

@kaydee50Christmas was first celebrated in AD 336 but Hanukkah has also been around a mighty long time. I don't think Christians can claim exclusivity to the holidays. Anyone can celebrate anything they want anytime they choose. It can be just as meaningful to them as Christmas is to you.

The origins of Hanukkah Hanukkah commemorates a historical event that took place in Jerusalem in the 2nd century BCE, when the Seleucid Greek empire was the ruling power.

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MoJoV — Mon, 05 Dec 2022 22:48:19 GMT

Hey, wish me Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, Happy Kwanzaa, I would wish it right back to you! And say Thank You. I believe there are very very few people who take offense to any Merry wishes. When and who started the myth that we couldn't say Christmas? Untrue.

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ThinkingOutLoud — Mon, 05 Dec 2022 22:51:30 GMT

@Shanuswrote:
.....yet I need to be cautious about a menorah in my window or Hanukkah decor on my door? Being in the majority must feel safe to many.

I'm sorry you feel that you need to be cautious. My ancestors were persecuted for their beliefs so since they paved the way for me to practice and celebrate my religion, I make sure to not shy from dong so.

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manny2 — Mon, 05 Dec 2022 22:55:24 GMT

I don’t see a problem saying “Christmas morning” followed by Hanukkah, Kwanza, or whatever you celebrate. 90% celebrate Christmas, so it’s understandable it takes precedence.

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I think we have evolved, and realize we have to be more inclusive, and most are doing that. Including QVC. The hosts do include all holidays celebrated.

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PhilaLady1 — Mon, 05 Dec 2022 23:00:22 GMT

Happy Festivus for the rest of us!!

❤❤❤❤❤❤

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dmod nj — Mon, 05 Dec 2022 23:11:35 GMT

@On ItHi,

I read this the other day. I didn't realize there were so many.

"From 1 November to 15 January there are approximately 29 holidays observed by 7 of the world’s major religions."