topic Re: QVC is promoting propaganda in Q Talk

QVC is promoting propaganda

Spunkyspouts — Wed, 14 Jan 2015 11:52:07 GMT

Yes, when you take down posts that are not breaking rules but expressing a viewpoint, you are slanting public opinion and that really really stinks. It is also scarey, not sure I want to spend much more here. You have allot of nerve whoever you are, you arent moderating anything, you are on a whole other level. I will talk to corporate and maybe even somebody else. As a shopping customer I am not going to take your subtle abuse however clever you think you are.

Just what makes it alright to protect a host from opinions and feedback while you allow others to get smashed to bits. Tell me do you make those calls all by yourself. If I were a host at QVC and was made aware of this manipulation of public opinion I would be furious.

This is not acceptable behavior in the United States of America, thats why there was a cold war. You have to be equally lateral just in your calls, you seem to lack discernment.

Re: QVC is promoting propaganda

CalminHeart — Wed, 14 Jan 2015 12:38:53 GMT

One thing to remember is that censorship does not apply here. This is a private website and Q can do whatever it wants with it. I saw one post yesterday when the 'r' word was used hope that's the one that was deleted by moderators.

Re: QVC is promoting propaganda

Spunkyspouts — Wed, 14 Jan 2015 13:03:02 GMT

NO...they are in a position of good faith by their customers to act in good faith and that entails being fair. This is a business, not a sorority , and I do not know what the r word is how silly , can't you just say the word. I have never seen a place that restricts speech like this. It isnt private , as a business it must operate under the laws of the land, that is what governs QVC. YOu can not say one poster is allowed to say something and similarly not permit another poster the exact opportunity.

Re: QVC is promoting propaganda

Krimpette — Wed, 14 Jan 2015 14:15:48 GMT

QVC's forums. QVC's rules. Take it or leave.

Re: QVC is promoting propaganda

stevieb — Wed, 14 Jan 2015 15:00:55 GMT

I'm not really sure what this is about. That said, simply because QVC can do what it wants doesn't necessarily mean they always should... As with virtually everything else related to this corporate entity these days, whether we're talking programming, presentation styles, product variety or forum moderation, there is a middle ground and they might be well served to find it...

Re: QVC is promoting propaganda

KYToby — Wed, 14 Jan 2015 17:45:20 GMT

The OP is obviously having a bad day -- based upon the multiple rantings on multiple threads which have been posted in a short window.

As has already been posted, QVC can operate its message boards and enforce its rules as it sees fit -- nothing in the United States of America guarantees the OP a platform here. The OP is free to go elsewhere -- as are we all.

Re: QVC is promoting propaganda

Tinkrbl44 — Wed, 14 Jan 2015 18:47:41 GMT

So, where is the "propaganda"?

I don't know how deleting an opinion (or bad language) suggests propaganda.

All I can say is, if you want a "free for all" message board, well then just start your own!

P.S. Have you even bothered to read the QVC Message Boards Terms of Use and Standards?

Re: QVC is promoting propaganda

suzyQ3 — Wed, 14 Jan 2015 18:52:35 GMT

I get out a kick out of such overwrought indignation aimed at a shopping channel message board.

What part of ""We reserve the right in our discretion to delete postings or threads that we deem in violation of these guidelines or otherwise unacceptable to us"" (emphasis mine) does the OP not understand?

They have sole discretion as to what can be posted. The fact that someone may not like how they handle that responsibility is irrelevant. This message board is owned by QVC.

Re: QVC is promoting propaganda

suzyQ3 — Wed, 14 Jan 2015 19:00:30 GMT

On 1/14/2015 KYToby said:
The OP is obviously having a bad day -- based upon the multiple rantings on multiple threads which have been posted in a short window.

As has already been posted, QVC can operate its message boards and enforce its rules as it sees fit -- nothing in the United States of America guarantees the OP a platform here. The OP is free to go elsewhere -- as are we all.

More like a bad middle of the night, judging by the posting times. Maybe she had a nightmare about QVC.

Re: QVC is promoting propaganda

kittymomNC — Wed, 14 Jan 2015 19:12:01 GMT

On 1/14/2015 Spunkyspouts said:
NO...they are in a position of good faith by their customers to act in good faith and that entails being fair. This is a business, not a sorority , and I do not know what the r word is how silly , can't you just say the word. I have never seen a place that restricts speech like this. It isnt private , as a business it must operate under the laws of the land, that is what governs QVC. YOu can not say one poster is allowed to say something and similarly not permit another poster the exact opportunity.

Oh, but yes they can. I had a poster who asked me a direct question and virtually screamed at me and told me what to do yesterday in no uncertain terms (because I disagreed with her). Since I had obviously already done what she was suggesting several times, I responded, and said nothing against the "standards". She was yelling at me, etc., but my response was deleted, her "rant" was left up, and the thread was closed. But even though I requested her "rant' be removed because it slanted everything, they did not remove it... I suppose that since the thread was closed, the moderators didn't care what she had posted that everyone could still read. So, no, they're not always fair, but then again, I wouldn't want their job. It must be difficult, but they can do whatever they want because it's QVC's boards and the moderators are paid by QVC. We can deal with it, or just not post here.

The QVC "business" itself may have to adhere to the "laws of the land" so to speak, but these boards are here as a "perk" for whoever wants to use them -- and they can easily shut it down if they choose to do so.

Re: QVC is promoting propaganda

dooBdoo — Wed, 14 Jan 2015 19:19:12 GMT

On 1/14/2015 suzyQ3 said:
I get out a kick out of such overwrought indignation aimed at a shopping channel message board.

What part of "We reserve the right in our discretion to delete postings or threads that we deem in violation of these guidelines or otherwise unacceptable to us" (emphasis mine) does the OP not understand?

They have sole discretion as to what can be posted. The fact that someone may not like how they handle that responsibility is irrelevant. This message board is owned by QVC.

Hi, suzyQ!

I've decided posters think it's okay to register and use the forums without ever taking a look at what we agree to, in the Standards for Participation or the General Terms and Conditions (I suggest the OP click on those and read them).

More of what's clearly, publicly posted:

"These Standards govern participation in QVC's Community features, including toGather, Ratings & Reviews, Forums, Blogs, Question & Answer, and any other type of Community-based features that QVC may offer now or in the future. The QVC Community features, like all others portions of our site, are also governed by our General Terms and Conditions of Use and Privacy Statement and are limited to persons 18 years or older..."

And to expand upon the portion you quoted:

"...The QVC members who participate in our Community features are solely responsible for their conduct there and for the content of their postings. QVC does not and cannot review everything that occurs and is not responsible for the content of the postings. We reserve the right in our discretion to delete postings or threads that we deem in violation of these guidelines or otherwise unacceptable to us. We further reserve the right in our discretion to suspend or remove the privileges of users who violate these guidelines and to report such individuals to the appropriate authorities."

Re: QVC is promoting propaganda

chessygal — Wed, 14 Jan 2015 19:32:40 GMT

I believe this is a service provided by QVC. They have a right to dissolve it if they wanted. I feel they are being pretty good sports to keep this going as long as it has. I think there was one other shopping channel that got rid of their Community. I can't recall which one so I would adhere to their monitoring for the present moment.

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Justice4all — Wed, 14 Jan 2015 23:10:56 GMT

Just skimmed the above standards and general terms. No politics or controversy. How disappointing, not to mention boring.

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Lowry83 — Wed, 14 Jan 2015 23:16:15 GMT

On 1/14/2015 Krimpette said:
QVC's forums. QVC's rules. Take it or leave.

Re: QVC is promoting propaganda

blackhole99 — Thu, 15 Jan 2015 00:08:56 GMT

An unexpected exception has occurred, what the heck is that!

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CalminHeart — Thu, 15 Jan 2015 00:50:47 GMT

On 1/14/2015 suzyQ3 said:
I get out a kick out of such overwrought indignation aimed at a shopping channel message board.

What part of ""We reserve the right in our discretion to delete postings or threads that we deem in violation of these guidelines or otherwise unacceptable to us"" (emphasis mine) does the OP not understand?

They have sole discretion as to what can be posted. The fact that someone may not like how they handle that responsibility is irrelevant. This message board is owned by QVC.

Hi! I agree with you.

It always cracks me up when people scream censorship. Obviously they don't understand what that really means and how it's applied...or not.

Re: QVC is promoting propaganda

happygolfcartrider — Thu, 15 Jan 2015 01:24:10 GMT

Looks like I missed the fun, darn

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Kachina624 — Thu, 15 Jan 2015 03:56:21 GMT

What is wrong with you OP? Did you come here today to stir the pot? The rules have been explained to you. Accept them or go elsewhere.

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febe1 — Thu, 15 Jan 2015 06:02:31 GMT

OP: Just what makes it alright to protect a host from opinions and feedback while you allow others to get smashed to bits.

This has always been permitted, OP. Some hosts are permitted to receive negative opinions, while others are what you would call "protected" hosts. Everybody knows that.

Re: QVC is promoting propaganda

Pook — Thu, 15 Jan 2015 13:42:14 GMT

A negative thought/opinon is one thing but when a poster is just downright rude and makes horrible rude nasty remarks is deserving of being removed! To say you don't like someone's hair is one thing but to say they look like pond scum and someone needs to make them change their hairdo because YOU just don't like it is no longer just an opinion or to state a host's outfit was too revealing in your eyes is an opinion but to say she looks like a h oo ker and trashy and she needs to be fired is not an opinion but plain old nasty bashing!!! It's all in the wording. You can make a point and post an opinion without the jr high mentality coming out!! I can't believe some posters don't know this and post nasty stuff just to stir the pot and get other nasties out. It's not about opinion and they know it!