topic Re: Gary Goben in Q Talk

Gary Goben

GG13 — Thu, 24 Feb 2022 13:59:09 GMT

Gary Goben seems to be the only vendor who "just sits" - doesn't demonstrate/explain/add to the Host's presentation in any way, except

to comment.. I find him incredibly boring.

Re: Gary Goben

Patz822 — Thu, 24 Feb 2022 14:12:35 GMT

I disagree totally. I think he describes things in great detail & is very

knowledgeable in regards to fabric, design, etc. He stays on point--

which is refreshing. Unlike other hosts that talk more about their daughters,

time at the beach, & on & on.

Re: Gary Goben

Caaareful Shopper — Thu, 24 Feb 2022 14:38:47 GMT

@GG13 I'm not sure which Gary Goben you're watching. The one I see, on a weekly basis, provides all the important details about each garment. He is not styling outfits (which I never need assistant) like the hosts seem is so important. But he's letting you know about the fabric, cut, pattern, and reasons for the designs chosen.

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kansasbaker — Thu, 24 Feb 2022 14:59:32 GMT

I think Gary Goben does a great job, he doesn't push anything on us, and describes it beautifully and has a nice calm pleasant voice. I enjoy watching him.

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Sooner — Thu, 24 Feb 2022 15:04:11 GMT

I take a look to see the clothing, and I don't really care what a host or vendor does unless it is obnoxious. What about someone sitting would be an issue?

A heck of a lot better than the ones like Mally who to me was unwatchable.

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seaBreeze — Thu, 24 Feb 2022 15:05:44 GMT

Gary is subdued which is good if you want calmness in a presentation...I will take him over Kim G. anyday as she is so hyper (but cute).

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Imaoldhippie — Thu, 24 Feb 2022 15:07:20 GMT

Not a big deal, so what?

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smoochy — Thu, 24 Feb 2022 15:16:24 GMT

Personally I've always gotten lots of useful info from him. I'm not watching to be entertained although I realize that some women are.

Re: Gary Goben

Effie54 — Thu, 24 Feb 2022 15:30:24 GMT

I've returned the last few pieces of Denim & Co., due to poor quality. So unfortunately, I don't believe him when he says how wonderful a garment is made. The fabric is thin, and the workmanship is just pour. Unfortunately I think the line has declined since he's been the lead designer. That's just my opinion.

Re: Gary Goben

gizmogal — Thu, 24 Feb 2022 15:47:25 GMT

@GG13 wrote:
Gary Goben seems to be the only vendor who "just sits" - doesn't demonstrate/explain/add to the Host's presentation in any way, except
to comment.. I find him incredibly boring.

Gary Goben is not a "vendor". He is a QVC employee as Head Designer for Denim& Co, a line of clothing that QVC owns. So when he is talking with a host, they are collaborating as colleagues of the same company.

Goben is not a vendor in the sense of someone who sells a product via QVC or other outlets.Example: Isaac Mizrahi is a vendor. His garments are not exclusive to QVC and not owned by QVC. Ditto for Dennis Basso

Because he has executive responsibilities, when Gary Goben is on with one of the hosts, he does a lot of explaining of the production side of garments-- designs, patterns, workmanship and textiles. The fashion side of making the garment appeal to shoppers by comments on styling and wardrobe coordination is done by the host (if all goes well!). The host also will describe sizing and any special features like buttons or pockets, etc. (if all goes well!)

Gary Goben is actively involved with every item whenever he makes an appearance for the Denim & Co. clothing line. Boring or interesting applied to Goben is debatable and subjective. But it's a misstatement to call him a vendor.

Re: Gary Goben

BirkiLady — Thu, 24 Feb 2022 15:58:38 GMT

Gary Goben adds a wealth of knowledge to the presentations, which the hosts fail to provide (and probably should know if they were really prepared). I enjoy his calm demeanor and quiet voice.

However, under him as lead designer, Denim & Company has gone downhill IMHO. I miss the beefy 100% cotton fabrics D&C offered and the classic styles. Now it's a line of crazy hemlines, boxy body shapes, far too much leisure styles, and oh-my-gosh that awful spandex or polyester (which doesn't breathe) added to everything.

I've returned two of his "original" Sport Savvy line recently with complete disappointment. That was a favored line of clothing for tennis and golf clothing. It's been ruined by Gary adding stretchy material to the lucious cotton fabric. Not the brightest idea and he keeps making the same mistake over the years. What's with that?

Re: Gary Goben

banned again — Thu, 24 Feb 2022 16:05:07 GMT

@BirkiLady wrote:
Not the brightest idea and he keeps making the same mistake over the years. What's with that?

It's because QVC management puts pressure on the buyers and designers to keep the prices down.

Re: Gary Goben

THETOT — Thu, 24 Feb 2022 16:43:28 GMT

FYI, he is not a "vendor" he is an employee of QVC.

Re: Gary Goben

Kachina624 — Thu, 24 Feb 2022 17:02:08 GMT

@GG13 wrote:
Gary Goben seems to be the only vendor who "just sits" - doesn't demonstrate/explain/add to the Host's presentation in any way, except
to comment.. I find him incredibly boring.

@GG13 It's such a shame you're being forced to sit and watch D&C presentations with no option for turning your TV off.

Re: Gary Goben

Love my grandkids — Thu, 24 Feb 2022 17:03:34 GMT

@GG13 Obviously you aren't seeing the same person the rest of us are.

He is NOT a vendor. Read the other replies. He's an employee of QVC.

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Jacie — Thu, 24 Feb 2022 17:12:09 GMT

@Kachina624 wrote:

@GG13 wrote:
Gary Goben seems to be the only vendor who "just sits" - doesn't demonstrate/explain/add to the Host's presentation in any way, except
to comment.. I find him incredibly boring.
@GG13 It's such a shame you're being forced to sit and watch D&C presentations with no option for turning your TV off.

@Kachina624 This wouldn't be the first time I've snorted my coffee whilst reading your perfect response! LOL!

Re: Gary Goben

Kachina624 — Thu, 24 Feb 2022 17:13:22 GMT

@BirkiLady Have you heard Gary say he designs Sports Savvy? I haven't. I've gotten two tops and I'm very pleased with them. They're French Terry and not stretchy at all.

I do think D&C has cheapened the quality of their fabrics in order to maintain at or near the previous price point. Other lines have done the same. Isaac's Pima cotton is like tissue paper; Kim Gravels fabrics are so thin and cheap I don't even watch her shows anymore. Renee Greenstein's Cuomo Jersey is a rougher, cheaper version of Liquid Knit and the construction of her tops is atrocious.

Re: Gary Goben

santorini — Thu, 24 Feb 2022 17:25:46 GMT

It seems like the time is right for him (and others) to possibly start coming back in to the studios. I wonder if that will ever happen, though. Maybe it's cheaper to do things the way they've been handling them for the past 2 years.

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millieshops — Thu, 24 Feb 2022 17:25:54 GMT

@Effie54 I don't buy much clothing, but 2 of my last 3 clothing items were Denim & Co. Neither were this year, but both certainly long after Gary came to QVC. I like both the top that was on clearance and a button front shirt that I believe was a TSV. That one I would have re-ordered but there wasn't another color available that I would wear.

No reason to name the third purchase which I probably should have returned. The brand is no longer sold at QVC.

Re: Gary Goben

Janey2 — Thu, 24 Feb 2022 18:24:50 GMT

The cost of clothing (and pretty much everything else) has gone up. My guess is that QVC is trying to keep the costs down and something has to give so it might be the fabric the vendors are selling. If you want clothing made better, and different quality fabrics you are going to have to pay, and then you will all be complaining about the higher costs. Can't have everything anymore.