topic Re: HSN Mr Christmas & VPH sell the same products?? in Q Talk

HSN Mr Christmas & VPH sell the same products??

rockygems123 — Thu, 23 Sep 2021 18:11:50 GMT

A fellow poster talked about an HSN 20% discount today including an Around the Tree Collar. HSN has a Mr. Christmas collar identical to Valerie Parr Hill's on QVC with some color variation and also offer a gingerbread one. It is $62.95 on HSN, Valerie's on QVC is $48.90..

Wonder if there are other "exclusive" VPH items on HSN but under a different name?

There are also 2 reviews on the HSN version, one is complaining that it is a paper product, not sure if that was ever mentioned on air.

Re: HSN Mr Christmas & VPH sell the same products??

tucsongal — Thu, 23 Sep 2021 19:00:16 GMT

I wouldn’t be surprised. I have a great wind spinner identical to a Plow and Hearth spinner that I bought from HSN under the Wind and Weather brand. In this case it was much less expensive and came in better color choices.

Re: HSN Mr Christmas & VPH sell the same products??

BluestarFL — Thu, 23 Sep 2021 19:15:26 GMT

I noticed that too! I know that Wind & Weather on HSN are Plow & Hearth products, but I was also surprised to see VPH items under the Mr. Christmas name. I didn't know those two companies were associated with one another, or that they shared the same products in any way. I do often see VPH products on HSN under the Winter Lane name as well.

I saw a couple VPH candle holders shaped like a santa, snowman and angel on a catalog site for $9.99 then they went up to 14.99....but still are way cheaper than what VPH sells them for on QVC. Hers are in the 34.99 price range on QVC. I know this because I got two at the 9.99 price from the catalog site before they went up in price, and then they showed up as 'exclusive' on QVC from VPH. Hmmm..... I guess she exclusively brings them to QVC but the company that makes them does not sell them exclusively to anyone. haha

Often times the same products on both HSN and QVC can be very different in price. I know the set of the two blow mold candles were on HSN long before they were on QVC as the TSV because I almost bought them. The price was (and still is) much more than what the TSV is for today. When I checked yesterday, HSN only had the gold color left, but a while back they had all the colors in sets of two.

Just today I saw a gmone christmas yard stake in a large craft/hobby store for 24.99, but that same catalog site has the exact same product for 14.99.

It's getting harder and harder for us shoppers to stay one step ahead of the retailers! haha

Re: HSN Mr Christmas & VPH sell the same products??

Carmie — Thu, 23 Sep 2021 19:47:08 GMT

VPH does not design or commission the items she brings to QVC.

She views and orders Them from the Chinese warehouse that manufactures them. Her items are available from the warehouse to any retailer who wants them.

You can probably find the exact same items elsewhere for more or less money. Nothing is exclusive from her line.

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Whisperonly — Thu, 23 Sep 2021 21:00:39 GMT

Please explain how you know this to be true.

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Whisperonly — Thu, 23 Sep 2021 21:02:31 GMT

Re: HSN Mr Christmas & VPH sell the same products??

Kachina624 — Thu, 23 Sep 2021 21:09:32 GMT

@Whisperonly wrote:
Please explain how you know this to be true.

It's pretty obvious when multiple retailers show up with the exact same merchandise, isn't it? It's not just Christmas stuff, I've seen the same thing with jewelry.

I remember when Lisa Robertson decided to get into Christmas items while she was still at QVC, she described Valerie taking her to a distributor's warehouse and helping her select items.

Re: HSN Mr Christmas & VPH sell the same products??

haddon9 — Thu, 23 Sep 2021 21:15:10 GMT

@Carmie wrote:
VPH does not design or commission the items she brings to QVC.

She views and orders Them from the Chinese warehouse that manufactures them. Her items are available from the warehouse to any retailer who wants them.

You can probably find the exact same items elsewhere for more or less money. Nothing is exclusive from her line.

I saw a VPH distressed mirrored tray that I had to have a few years ago. It was a bit pricey here on the Q so I did a bit of reaserch and found the exact same thing on another site (same product photo) for $20.00 less and free shipping. Her name was not attached to this tray on the other site.

I was surprised since I thought they were "her" products. She gives one the impression that either she or her team designs the items that she brings to QVC.

Re: HSN Mr Christmas & VPH sell the same products??

Pagan — Thu, 23 Sep 2021 21:18:08 GMT

I used to notice that Pier 1 and VPH had some overlap.
I don't even bother to look at Pier 1 now they're a completely different store but maybe they still retain a few of the same suppliers.
Lots of stores offer those same products, even Amazon.

I think VPH is able to negotiate changes on a few items and have a few things specially made because she's a big customer so she will have formed business relationships but essentially she's just a buyer.
She probably goes to trade shows, goes to trade warehouses for viewings, and places orders for things that fit her brand, just like everyone does, including Mr Christmas. Sometimes they'll both order the same products.

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Reever — Sat, 25 Sep 2021 03:13:54 GMT

Im disgusted with all the Chinese goods Valerie is bringing us. Years ago her wreaths were made in New Jersey and she had soy candles from Arkansas. She struck a deal with the Chinese about 10 years ago and got greedy. I was done with imported Chinese junk 4 years ago. Their implication with the Virus has only intensified my checking labels to make sure I avoid Chinese goods.

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laguna24 — Sun, 26 Sep 2021 01:56:09 GMT

YES. Both sell made in China junk.

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homedecor1 — Sun, 26 Sep 2021 21:28:02 GMT

@Carmie I'm sure your correct

For years I owned a design/decorating business producing a shopping catalog. We'd go to the Atlanta (and other) trade shows and select what we'd want, amounts, etc (from China even back then) if we wanted to "tweak" a product, you dealt directly with manufacturer through wholesaler/buyer .

I highly doubt Valerie travels to China to the manufacturing plant or meets with actual designers -- her stuff is done thru "wholesale" distributors and QVC most likely chooses the amount and negotiates price (and of course markup amount...which is high).

JMO...overpriced Covid or shipping problems...

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DJs mom — Mon, 27 Sep 2021 18:16:07 GMT

@Reever wrote:
Im disgusted with all the Chinese goods Valerie is bringing us. Years ago her wreaths were made in New Jersey and she had soy candles from Arkansas. She struck a deal with the Chinese about 10 years ago and got greedy. I was done with imported Chinese junk 4 years ago. Their implication with the Virus has only intensified my checking labels to make sure I avoid Chinese goods.

@Reever while you're checking labels to avoid Chinese goods, make sure you check where the computer or phone you are typing on to post on this forum is from.

Re: HSN Mr Christmas & VPH sell the same products??

Reever — Tue, 28 Sep 2021 01:28:05 GMT

@DJs mom. We can only control things to a point. Of course my computer comes from China but the more we examine labels and boycott Chinese goods the better America will be. China owns so much of our debt it is scary. I fear their master plan is to take over our country. one day and colonize us. I fear for our grandchildren.

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qbetzforreal — Tue, 28 Sep 2021 13:55:11 GMT

@Reever wrote:
@DJs mom. We can only control things to a point. Of course my computer comes from China but the more we examine labels and boycott Chinese goods the better America will be. China owns so much of our debt it is scary. I fear their master plan is to take over our country. one day and colonize us. I fear for our grandchildren.

@Reever- then quit shopping at Big Lots