topic Re: Posters Self-Moderating vs. Deletion in Q Talk

Posters Self-Moderating vs. Deletion

Johnnyeager — Sun, 16 Nov 2014 18:25:06 GMT

Less than 30 minutes ago there was a post in Fashion Talk critical of the Keurig rep, whos trikes me as a very pleasant and professional woman. It was noted that she spoke too quickly (to which I thought, she's selling coffee and has been caffeinated since midnight), but also highly criticized her hair. I thought, well, she's not selling hair extensions, so why does that matter, but the post was deleted before I could respond. I thought maybe letting other posters comment would have been more interesting and informative versus just deleting it completely. Wouldn't that make this a more interesting and interactive board?

Re: Posters Self-Moderating vs. Deletion

Tinkrbl44 — Sun, 16 Nov 2014 18:27:22 GMT

Based on what I've seen so far, the moderation on this board needs to be "tweaked".

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NYCShopper14 — Sun, 16 Nov 2014 18:32:23 GMT

You make a good point but I always think about the fact that the reps (or more often here, the QVC presenters) are actually flesh and blood real live people with feelings, and maybe they shouldn't have to be the example that teaches someone else some manners.

I say - delete.

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Puzzle Piece — Sun, 16 Nov 2014 18:32:35 GMT

I agree with the OP's take. If you want to talk deletion, visit the ViewPoints forum. Not much can be discussed or debated or argued as most get deleted with the strict moderators. Sure we sling mud, pull hair, scratch and bite. But we get to post what our experiences have been and our opinions - that's not what is happening now. It's very dull and cutesy.

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Clover29 — Sun, 16 Nov 2014 18:34:08 GMT

Sounds like you just want to watch a fight, rather than have a discussion. I'd rather see the mean-spirited posts removed; you can't make them positive by disagreeing with them, you just add to the negative vibe.

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Moonchilde — Sun, 16 Nov 2014 18:35:55 GMT

If the point of the post was simply to criticize the rep and had little or nothing to do with the Keurig, then "interesting and informative" seems to translate to the typical cat-calling and name-calling between the usual suspects saying the same very predictable things. I fail to view that as either interesting or informative other than in a train-wreck sort of way.

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Colonel Meow — Sun, 16 Nov 2014 18:37:57 GMT

On 11/16/2014 Clover29 said:
Sounds like you just want to watch a fight, rather than have a discussion. I'd rather see the mean-spirited posts removed; you can't make them positive by disagreeing with them, you just add to the negative vibe.

I tend to agree with you, particularly when the "discussion" is relating to one's appearance. What purpose is there in furthering those kinds of discussions?

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Moonchilde — Sun, 16 Nov 2014 18:38:11 GMT

On 11/16/2014 Clover29 said:
Sounds like you just want to watch a fight, rather than have a discussion.

That's how I read it, too.

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stevieb — Sun, 16 Nov 2014 18:40:13 GMT

Yes, the new 'kinder and gentler' Q board experience leaves a lot to be desired... It's also fairly uneven but maybe that's the intent. Some forums are perhaps intended to be more freewheeling while others are perhaps being intentionally more limited... Who knows? But regardless, we can probably thank all those who whined about how nasty some people get for encouraging the Q to take a stab, however pointless, at making the boards as milquetoast and homogenized as their programming... As for comments about this particular vendor, I'm not remotely interested in a pricey coffee-maker so haven't been watching, just as I suspect that vendor is not attending to these boards...

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Buckeye nut — Sun, 16 Nov 2014 18:48:08 GMT

Bullying is bullying...no wonder why kids think it is normal... It is time to grow up...intelligent discussions are a good thing...Bullying is NOT ever acceptable...

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debic — Sun, 16 Nov 2014 18:51:39 GMT

They don't delete enough IMO. I'm assuming that whatever gets reported enough gets looked at and that's why it's not consistent.

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Johnnyeager — Sun, 16 Nov 2014 18:56:58 GMT

I was more than prepared to have a civil discussion, which was, why is her hair pertinent to her selling a Keurig? I think hearing that poster's response would have been interesting. The Keurig rep isn't her to defend herself, so why shouldn't others do it in her stead?

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Colonel Meow — Sun, 16 Nov 2014 19:07:10 GMT

On 11/16/2014 Johnnyeager said:
I was more than prepared to have a civil discussion, which was, why is her hair pertinent to her selling a Keurig? I think hearing that poster's response would have been interesting. The Keurig rep isn't her to defend herself, so why shouldn't others do it in her stead?

The problem is that many posters would not maintain the same civility as you, although any discussion ridiculing one's appearance is not civil (imo). The discussion would quickly devolve into even more unpleasantness.

Before the new rules, this happened all too frequently. And many of us remember it, which is why we know how the story would have played out.

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jclark73 — Sun, 16 Nov 2014 19:17:42 GMT

I saw the post. At the time, no one had responded yet. I had hoped it would remain that way, as the poster seemed to just want to start a fight. At least, that's the what it seemed like to me. Otherwise, why post something like that?

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curlywhitedog — Sun, 16 Nov 2014 19:28:59 GMT

On 11/16/2014 Johnnyeager said:
I thought maybe letting other posters comment would have been more interesting and informative versus just deleting it completely. Wouldn't that make this a more interesting and interactive board?

I cannot imagine anyone thinking leaving a thread up so that it becomes informative to it's posters is more important than taking it down so that it's no longer hurtful to it's target.

Sorry, but in my mind, nothing trumps kindness.

Maria

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Johnnyeager — Sun, 16 Nov 2014 19:35:44 GMT

I guess I concede to those who disagreed with me; I just assumed that since vendors/hosts can not defend or explain themselves here, some view opposing the original comment would be useful for all to see and read. I am often eager to defend a host or vendor who is rudely or unpleasantly criticized; ignoring it is difficult sometimes.

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Colonel Meow — Sun, 16 Nov 2014 19:40:13 GMT

On 11/16/2014 Johnnyeager said:
I guess I concede to those who disagreed with me; I just assumed that since vendors/hosts can not defend or explain themselves here, some view opposing the original comment would be useful for all to see and read. I am often eager to defend a host or vendor who is rudely or unpleasantly criticized; ignoring it is difficult sometimes.

I know how you feel about ignoring it, but really - that's often the very best thing you can do. I often think those who post such topics are just "itching to fight" and try to engage well-meaning posters, such as yourself, to fan the flames.

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depglass — Sun, 16 Nov 2014 19:47:43 GMT

I think the moderation is getting a lot better. They don't let things fester for hours like they used to, then delete the entire thread. Why not remove the offensive comment and let normal posts remain?

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reiki604 — Sun, 16 Nov 2014 19:52:40 GMT

On 11/16/2014 Johnnyeager said:
I was more than prepared to have a civil discussion, which was, why is her hair pertinent to her selling a Keurig? I think hearing that poster's response would have been interesting. The Keurig rep isn't her to defend herself, so why shouldn't others do it in her stead?

A person who is criticizing someone else's appearance is not interestied in having a reasonable discussion about it. They are more interested in being cruel and putting others down because they have no other power in their lives. It makes them feel better about themselves and will never acknowledge their true motivations. It would be too threatening.

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stevieb — Sun, 16 Nov 2014 20:00:23 GMT

On 11/16/2014 buckeye war eagle fan said: Bullying is bullying...no wonder why kids think it is normal... It is time to grow up...intelligent discussions are a good thing...Bullying is NOT ever acceptable...

True enough, but for the fact that the term, like so many in modern parlance, has become grossly over-used and indiscriminately applied to anything remotely unpleasant or confrontational...