topic Re: For what its worth... in Q Talk

For what its worth...

_O_ — Thu, 30 May 2019 06:05:58 GMT

Im not sure about the rest of you but i see a distinct change in marketing, and maybe its conducive with the rest of the world, bland, non distinctive, roboitic, boring, generic...lets make it as impersonal as possible and hopefully it will entice. I love Dan Hughes, Jane, Shawn, David...ect, irregardless of their many destinctive flaws that you all find annoying, but I hope that all you complainers will be much happier to see less personal, less `sharing because thats what im seeing. There are 4 qvc channels running, most pre recorded. Zzzzzzzzz. I used to enjoy having qvc running somewhere in my house in the background...no longer. All those channels mean nothing to me and all the complainers, I hope you get what you wished for.

Re: For what its worth...

Caaareful Shopper — Thu, 30 May 2019 12:49:54 GMT

@_O_ wrote:
Im not sure about the rest of you but i see a distinct change in marketing, and maybe its conducive with the rest of the world, bland, non distinctive, roboitic, boring, generic...lets make it as impersonal as possible and hopefully it will entice. I love Dan Hughes, Jane, Shawn, David...ect, irregardless of their many destinctive flaws that you all find annoying, but I hope that all you complainers will be much happier to see less personal, less `sharing because thats what im seeing. There are 4 qvc channels running, most pre recorded. Zzzzzzzzz. I used to enjoy having qvc running somewhere in my house in the background...no longer. All those channels mean nothing to me and all the complainers, I hope you get what you wished for.

@_O_ What???

First, please don't count me in all. It amazes me when posters use that word here, as if there truly is only one voice for every opinion. Personally, I have never been a fan of a just the facts type of on-air decorum for QVC. I think that would be boring and defeats the purpose of having live hosts at all. For what it's worth, QVC is mostly live programming or right at 50% (not mostly pre-recorded); I don't even consider that 4th channel [Beauty iQ, which is only digital now].

On the other side of the spectrum, I turn the channel when a host does yoga poses and screams or does cartoon noises for no reason but to draw attention to herself. Or when a vendor insists on music to dance to show everyone's backside in the same pants she's been selling for 20 years.

Other than that, not too much else distracts me from enjoying QVC. I've always enjoyed Jane, David, Dan, Leah, Antonella, etc.

Can you give examples of what you see as robotic and bland?

Re: For what its worth...

Johnnyeager — Thu, 30 May 2019 11:51:55 GMT

I'm really not sure what QVC shows you have been watching, but I see a distinct escalation in the personal tales and stories. Sure, it varies among hosts, but I believe all of them have been told to ratchet it up in order to become friends with shoppers and entice them to visit hosts' social media pages, filled with photos of family, vacations, homes and meals.

Re: For what its worth...

jackthebear — Thu, 30 May 2019 12:18:45 GMT

@Johnnyeager wrote:
I'm really not sure what QVC shows you have been watching, but I see a distinct escalation in the personal tales and stories. Sure, it varies among hosts, but I believe all of them have been told to ratchet it up in order to become friends with shoppers and entice them to visit hosts' social media pages, filled with photos of family, vacations, homes and meals.

I think you are right on this

thinking about 2 recently departed hosts, maybe they werent as eager to be part of that?

Re: For what its worth...

Perkup — Thu, 30 May 2019 12:37:10 GMT

And now many (or most) of the shows are advertised as FUN with "host's name". Reminds me, sadly, of FUN WITH RICHARD & JANE. Same maturity level. I really don't consider shopping on a tv channel to be FUN. It certainly isn't fun to see a middle aged man dancing over a plate of macaroni or someone poking food into their too eager mouth. And it's not fun to see grown women exposing their back bumpers to music in order to sell us on buying some vendor's pants. What a turn off.

I am finding that more often than not the hosts are annoying rather than appealing, and this applies to the more experienced hosts as well as the newbies - most of whom are unwatchable for me. So who do I enjoy watching? Dan Hughes is great and I'm so glad he is on more lately. Carolyn, Katie M., Jill Bauer (so sorry she's retiring) and the new host Ali. I rarely watch anyone else. If I'm looing for fun, there are a million other places to look, starting with my family. And lots of entertainment channels.

Re: For what its worth...

Shanus — Thu, 30 May 2019 13:11:47 GMT

@Johnnyeager wrote:
I'm really not sure what QVC shows you have been watching, but I see a distinct escalation in the personal tales and stories. Sure, it varies among hosts, but I believe all of them have been told to ratchet it up in order to become friends with shoppers and entice them to visit hosts' social media pages, filled with photos of family, vacations, homes and meals.

@Johnnyeager ITA. It seems w/ many shows, there are questions asked for the day for the viewers’ responses, a sidekick with an IPad reporting stories and comments coming in and a general switch to an entertainment aura rather than more of an emphasis on facts and moving on to the next item.

I don’t want to be entertained by the hosts or vendors. If I watch, more rarely, I don’t need them to be my friends. It does not influence my purchases whether they have the item in 3 colors, use the skincare exclusively (can they really use every line presented exclusively?), or their suggestions where I’m going to wear a particular item. I’ve appropriately dressed myself since I was 6.

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kaydee50 — Thu, 30 May 2019 13:29:05 GMT

@Perkup I never understood people who keep QVC on as background "noise." It's a shopping channel not "entertainment" IMO. There are other places to get noise, e.g,, the radio!

Re: For what its worth...

Johnnyeager — Thu, 30 May 2019 13:36:39 GMT

It's pretty difficult to not see the expanding entertainment focus of QVC programming, whether one likes it or not, responds to it or not.

As noted, the Facebook question of the day relayed by the hosts' "sidekick secretary" is ubiquitous. Have fun with us while you watch and give us your answer to this fun question!

And they call an entire night of programming "Fri-Yay!"....I mean, come on, is that not entertainment, or what?

QVC (and, to a lesser degree for now HSN) is all about entertaining the viewer, trying to capture the attention of the channel surfer and hoping they stick around awhile to watch before they download the app or visit the website to buy.

Dance! Dance! Dance!

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geezerette — Thu, 30 May 2019 13:42:04 GMT

@Johnnyeager wrote:
It's pretty difficult to not see the expanding entertainment focus of QVC programming, whether one likes it or not, responds to it or not.

As noted, the Facebook question of the day relayed by the hosts' "sidekick secretary" is ubiquitous. Have fun with us while you watch and give us your answer to this fun question!

And they call an entire night of programming "Fri-Yay!"....I mean, come on, is that not entertainment, or what?

QVC (and, to a lesser degree for now HSN) is all about entertaining the viewer, trying to capture the attention of the channel surfer and hoping they stick around awhile to watch before they download the app or visit the website to buy.

Dance! Dance! Dance!

I don’t even mind all that, if, in between the “entertainment”, they could manage to throw in a few accurate facts about the product they’re over the moon about.

Re: For what its worth...

Jaspersmom — Thu, 30 May 2019 14:09:53 GMT

I don't know what shopping channel you're watching, but most of the shows I've stopped by to watch are too HYPER. Between vendors and hosts talking over one another and ridiculous dancing that no one really keeps a beat to, all of it is way over the top. Don't get me wrong, I don't want just a litany of facts about the item tossed out either, but when when a host says you can pick a red fan because it may match your favorite team color, then the presentation has gone off the rails. And yes, a longtime host DID say that yesterday during her show. I get it, QVC is trying to figure out how to maintain a viewing audience since it's been shrinking through the years. I personally think they're going about it all wrong, but I'm probably not the demographic they're trying to target. Yes, I like Dan, Caroline and Jill and wish there were more hosts like them. In the meantime, I'll either tune in and mute my tv or shop online. I'm reminded that a few decades ago, QVC did entertain us in many ways. Kathy Levine and Joan Rivers were so funny together I often felt as if I were at a comedy club. Jill and David doing Warner Bros. shows were informative with their presentations. The old three hour Sunday morning silver shows always held my attention. Different world now and I guess that means a different sales approach. Oh well.

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Caaareful Shopper — Thu, 30 May 2019 14:46:45 GMT

I too don't mind some of the entertainment factor at all, as long as all of the important information for my shopping is covered. I actually enjoy shopping, and like it to be pleasant, even fun. If I laugh along the way, I'm grateful that my day had a little bit of brightness while I was spending my money.

But there's a threshold that for me is a line in the sand when it's a host's all about ME antics, where they obviously never did their homework on the product. Or, a vendor that yells OW! like they're in a club because...well I have no idea why that happens.

Re: For what its worth...

vsm — Thu, 30 May 2019 16:22:26 GMT

Oh my gosh, @Perkup , you gave me a much needed laugh with your first paragraph -- very funny and spot on!

Re: For what its worth...

_O_ — Thu, 30 May 2019 17:36:06 GMT

Eh, it's an opinion and mine. I won't make time to sit and watch qvc for hours, nor take an hour or so to scroll through the website shopping OR go to any hosts Facebook or otherwise (with 1 exception of Megan Murray, her house is amazing and I like her) Most of my purchases have been done on the fly, I see or hear something being presented and I'll buy it. Don't mind the dancing, eating, sharing of private lives, but I do mind seeing posts such as "don't want to hear about Trev, don't want to hear about Jagger, Shawn doesn't need to get a dog, David never leaves, Antionellas hair is awful, why do the hosts all look the same, why are they dancing~they can't dance"...ad nauseum. Start whittling away, your left with nothing.

Re: For what its worth...

_O_ — Thu, 30 May 2019 20:02:10 GMT

@Caaareful Shopper , maybe I wasn't specific enough on "All". "All" being the constant complainers, and if your one of them then I'd include you in all, if not, then carry on.

Re: For what its worth...

Spurt — Fri, 31 May 2019 19:11:25 GMT

@_O_

I dont like robotic presentations, a good host is formative and well prepared, but at the same time interjects a little bit of their personality. BUT I don't like silly over the top hosts that treat the shows like it was their own personal talk show, and are unprepared when it comes to the merchandise information. It seems the only product info we get are COLORS, which they go through numerous times and even seem to stumble over. that. ...And they keep interrupting the poor vendor trying to give product information..but the host stops them abruptly so the host can share their special "family moment"....😒

I dont want to hear them talk so fast it sounds like they are auditioning for the Chipmunks or Minions. I don't need nor want to see someone wiggling and jiggling their rear end to sell clothing or a host dancing with a colander on their head, or make sleeves on a blouse "dance", or switching heads on cookie jars so santa has a snowman's body...😒..And when you know more about a host's daughter's career, or the host's musical playlist, or know the medical journal definition of a daughter's recent illness than you know about the products shown SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE...QVC is a business selling merchandise, not a rendition of Entertainment Tonight!!!....

And Im with @Johnnyeager and others ---the hosts seem to be ramping it up instead of toning it down--and isnt it interesting that in their latest financial reports sales have declined in particular for items SOLD ON AIR!!!

And I think it's downright silly when the Q Fan Club GOES INTO an absolute PANIC !!!!! Only to find Chris from Lock N Lock was not on air because she went on vacation....SMH!

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SunValley — Thu, 30 May 2019 23:05:14 GMT

What is repetitive, boring, and lackluster is the product programming.

After selling the same tee, mascara, soap, or pillow for the thousandth time, the hosts must be as bored with describing it as many of us are hearing it. I see and hear plenty of activity including posing, look-at-me antics, interminent shrieks, convoluted family stories on every item, dashing all over the set, and dancing around. The vendor who demanded music today so her models could wiggle around simply made the models look awkward. The push to be vibrant, connected, and interesting needs retooling.

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Grace6663582 — Fri, 31 May 2019 03:57:41 GMT

And while he Q is on in the background these posters notice all that bothers them about the hosts. Like the tone of their voice, the way they look in a bathing suit, their hair, what clothes the host is wearing to work, if the host wants a dog ! I mean maybe turn on the radio enty of talk shows . You can even call in and gripe

Re: For what its worth...

Grace6663582 — Fri, 31 May 2019 04:02:06 GMT

Ya while in the background all these posters notice all that is so annoying

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SeaMaiden — Sat, 01 Jun 2019 01:56:14 GMT

For me, the way I viewed shopping channels was changed with the internet....online access and ...computers.

Prior to all of this it was a simpler, enjoyable experience watching TV, calling in by phone....no silly games, questions on Facebook etc. just shopping by phone. Much preferred that.

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NYC Susan — Sat, 01 Jun 2019 02:54:09 GMT

@_O_ wrote:
Im not sure about the rest of you but i see a distinct change in marketing, and maybe its conducive with the rest of the world, bland, non distinctive, roboitic, boring, generic...lets make it as impersonal as possible and hopefully it will entice. I love Dan Hughes, Jane, Shawn, David...ect, irregardless of their many destinctive flaws that you all find annoying, but I hope that all you complainers will be much happier to see less personal, less `sharing because thats what im seeing. There are 4 qvc channels running, most pre recorded. Zzzzzzzzz. I used to enjoy having qvc running somewhere in my house in the background...no longer. All those channels mean nothing to me and all the complainers, I hope you get what you wished for.

What you're seeing is not what I'm seeing at all. Robotic? Less sharing? Impersonal? I see it as the exact opposite of all those things.

And we certainly can complain about things we like or don't like (such as too much sharing and too personal, and not enough giving actual information about what they're selling) without being accused of wanting robotic and bland programming. I think it's pretty clear what we "wish for", and it's not that at all.