topic Re: Goodbye in Wellness

Goodbye

canada1 — Sun, 19 Mar 2017 21:17:35 GMT

Thanks to those who were kind.

Re: Passing drug test??

Poodlepet2 — Sun, 19 Mar 2017 15:26:53 GMT

I hope this thread does not get axed, but #1: no doctor recommends smoking anything twenty-four hours before surgery-ever!

2) Can he talk to your prescriber? Can that prescriber change the method of administration?

I am not against medical usage by any means, but if you have to go 30 days without, do you really need it?

Poodlepet2

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hoosieroriginal — Sun, 19 Mar 2017 15:26:55 GMT

Seriously? If you are going under anesthesia - take your doctor's advice!

Re: Passing drug test??

qbetzforreal — Sun, 19 Mar 2017 15:38:57 GMT

You have stop for extended period time to produce a clean test. Even though you say you don't have a lot of body fat and it appears that you smoke every day; it's going to remain in your system.

Re: Passing drug test??

canada1 — Sun, 19 Mar 2017 16:49:48 GMT

@Poodlepet2 wrote:
I hope this thread does not get axed, but #1: no doctor recommends smoking anything twenty-four hours before surgery-ever!
2) Can he talk to your prescriber? Can that prescriber change the method of administration?
I am not against medical usage by any means, but if you have to go 30 days without, do you really need it?
Poodlepet2

@Poodlepet2 I really do need the surgery, but I cannot suffer for 30 days prior. I don't see how changing the method of administration can help me pass the test, but I will talk to my doc tomorrow. Thanks for your feedback!

Re: Passing drug test??

Annabellethecat66 — Sun, 19 Mar 2017 15:43:24 GMT

The average novice person doesn't understand that ..... well..everything you take on a daily basis, can cause problems with healing and how the body reacts when a person suddenly stops.

I think the OP understands that. The problem is that society is so judgmental when it comes to any kind of medication prescribed for pain.

I should think the OP's Dr who follows and prescribes this medicine would be the person working 'WITH' the Dr and the anesthesiologist assisting in the operation. It is imperative that everyone be informed and work together. Just stopping any medication a person has taken for a long period of time can cause some major problems before, during and after the procedure.

I don't know because I've never taken or been around medical marijuana but my daughter lives in Denver and knows a lot of people who do everything with it (except brush their teeth) Sorry, sometimes humor is the best medicine when dealing with those who judge others. I've also watched many shows educating the public the difference between marijuana for medical reasons and recreational purposes. I've also read many books on the subject. I live with severe pain every day and am always looking for anything to alleviate it.

I hope the OP's Drs will work together to decide on a correct way to address this problem. Surely many others dealing with something similar have had to come up with a viable SAFE alternative.

Take care and PLEASE come back and let us know how you are doing. Annabelle..

Re: Passing drug test??

hckynut — Sun, 19 Mar 2017 15:48:59 GMT

@canada1

I assume you either have a valid medical prescription from a valid medical doctor, or live in a state that ignores this Federal Law.

My suggestion? If it was prescribed, as above, get this information from the doctor that prescribed it. If not, you might be breaking a Federal Law.

hckynut(john)

Re: Passing drug test??

canada1 — Sun, 19 Mar 2017 15:52:41 GMT

@Annabellethecat66 Thank u so much for your understanding response. I will contact my doctor tomorrow and ask him to work with the surgeon and anesthesiologist on finding an agreeable solution. You're right - they need to work together, and stopping a medication I rely on presents its own risks.

Re: Passing drug test??

RedTop — Sun, 19 Mar 2017 15:57:49 GMT

There is NO way on this green earth that you will get rid of the marijuana in your system for tomorrow's test. No use trying any wild ideas to flush your system, as it just will not happen.

As long as you have the prescription for your medical need, then the anesthesiologist will have to figure out an alternative sedation for you---like a spinal, with Versed or something similar to where you go into such a light sleep you can respond to the surgeon during the process, but not remember it. Best wishes to you with your procedure.

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canada1 — Sun, 19 Mar 2017 16:02:08 GMT

@hckynut Marijuana is legal in my state. My concern has nothing to do with breaking federal law, LOL. Nevermind.

Re: Passing drug test??

canada1 — Sun, 19 Mar 2017 16:51:17 GMT

@RedTop wrote:
There is NO way on this green earth that you will get rid of the marijuana in your system for tomorrow's test. No use trying any wild ideas to flush your system, as it just will not happen.

As long as you have the prescription for your medical need, then the anesthesiologist will have to figure out an alternative sedation for you---like a spinal, with Versed or something similar to where you go into such a light sleep you can respond to the surgeon during the process, but not remember it. Best wishes to you with your procedure.

@RedTop Nonono, I am just scheduling tomorrow. There is no date for a test until I book one.

Re: Passing drug test??

KingstonsMom — Sun, 19 Mar 2017 16:04:41 GMT

@kemiqueen wrote:
@Poodlepet2 I really do need the surgery, but I cannot suffer for 30 days prior. I don't see how changing the method of administration can help me pass the test, but I will talk to my doc tomorrow. Thanks for your feedback!

@canada1

The method of administration will make no difference, you'll still test positive for THC whether you smoke it or take capsules, edibles, etc.

It's been my experience thru friends who use it medicinally and applying for jobs that require a drug test, that the over the counter 'cleanses' don't work.

Re: Passing drug test??

canada1 — Sun, 19 Mar 2017 16:06:30 GMT

@KingstonsMom Exactly...

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canada1 — Sun, 19 Mar 2017 16:22:45 GMT

@hoosieroriginal wrote:
Seriously? If you are going under anesthesia - take your doctor's advice!

@hoosieroriginal There's more to it than that.

Re: Passing drug test??

Lucky Charm — Sun, 19 Mar 2017 16:07:33 GMT

You need to contact your doctor who prescribes marijuana for a different delivery system.

If you can't give up smoking it for 30 days, and have been smoking it for 30 days, month after month, and for how long....

You're doing yourself some serious damage to your lungs. SMH that the medical community doesn't see this happening.

Can't imagine what it's like to not be able to breathe as people do when they have lung diseases.

Once read a story a nurse told about people who are dying and cannot breathe. The look in their eyes is of terror. There isn't much they can do for you when your lungs are that played out.

It's like drowning in a room where everyone else is breathing, talking, laughing,.....living.

The first thing you should talk to your doctor about is finding a different delivery system, if you need to take this drug. I don't think preventing this surgery is the only bad thing smoking is doing to you.

I've never heard of a drug test before a surgery, a physical and/or cbc. It's a little suspect they are actually looking for drugs in your system. Telling a doctor/anesthesiologist you smoke, period, would/should be enough for the go ahead. Or not.

I'm not sure how far back a p test goes, but a hair test--you'd have to give it up a lot longer.

Re: Passing drug test??

reiki604 — Sun, 19 Mar 2017 16:11:09 GMT

Patients are told to stop taking some meds and/or supplements prior to surgery because the affect the possibility of bleeding but have never heard of a doc requiring a drug test prior to surgery. Let your prescribing doc talk to your surgeon or find another surgeon who is willing to deal with the whole patient's issues. This sounds wonky.

Re: Passing drug test??

Nightowlz — Sun, 19 Mar 2017 16:16:08 GMT

I guess your doctors need to work together. Never heard of having to pass a drug test to have surgery. I suppose they look at that when they take blood the morning of before surgery.

As far as I know pot stays in your system for at least a month so no way you will not test positive. I don't see anything wrong with smoking it the night before surgery. You will not be stoned the next morning. Sounds like the doctors need to get a clue.

Yes I have smoked pot think it should be legal in all states & others shoud just mind their own business. I don't see anything wrong with it. Some think it's a gateway to other drugs but only if that's what you choose IMO. I have smoked it & stopped so many times it's not funny. If it was legal here I would still be smoking it. I would like to retire in Colorado. LOL!!!

I hope you get your situation figured out. I think it's ridiculous the doctor telling you cannot have that in your system when they drug test you when you have a prescription for it. I'm not sure how drug tests work but I would assume they can see what type of drugs are being used & could see if it's just pot.???

I know someone that has used their kids urine when they had to have a drug test??? Don't know how true it is just what I was told.

Re: Passing drug test??

Poodlepet2 — Sun, 19 Mar 2017 16:13:03 GMT

The problem is, smoking anything decreases lung capacity and oxygen exchange: the drug per second, is not in question.

What John brought up is what I should have said from the beginning.

Personally, the anesthesiologist may support your use BUT, if medical marijuana is illegal in the state where you are having the surgery-and something happens to you- either intraoperatvely, or post-open, all associated with your case-knowing you are positive for an "illegal" drug in their state-could get into serious trouble....this is just not an anesthesiologist problem-it's a "surgeon" problem too.

There is a good chance your case may be cancelled.....it could go forward, but it may not. Be prepared.

Poodlepet2

Re: Passing drug test??

Poodlepet2 — Sun, 19 Mar 2017 16:16:09 GMT

OP, if it's legal....what are the concerns then? Once again, across the board, surgeons etc. don't want you smoking anything....

Poodlepet2

Re: Passing drug test??

canada1 — Sun, 19 Mar 2017 16:17:15 GMT

@Lucky Charm My grandfather died of lung cancer not long ago. I saw him suffer for years, so I am very aware of the dangers of smoking. Thank u for your concern. I told the surgeon I smoke pot when going over my meds. He did not ask. There's nothing to be suspicious about.