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New Weight Watchers Program - Question

Lipstickdiva — Mon, 04 Jan 2016 20:14:31 GMT

I joined the at-home program over the weekend but today is the first day I am tracking anything. I am so confused with this tracker app right now. Actually, IMO the on-line version leaves a lot to be desired as far as explaining how the program actually works. Maybe it's because I am used to attending a meeting that I am having a hard time with this.

Anyhow, I totally forgot that fruits are free along with most vegetables. I just ate a banana and typed that into my tracker app on my phone. After I did that I remembered that it should be free. Yet the app computed 1 point for my banana.

Are only certain fruits free?

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meem120 — Mon, 04 Jan 2016 20:22:20 GMT

Bananas are still 0 points. Its a good program and I like it. The website is very, vry difficult to navigate. There are alot of complaints about it. There's an app called Smart Score that is the same calculator that WW uses to calculate smart points. Its $1.99, but you need the nutritional information to calculate the points. There are no food lists.

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Lipstickdiva — Mon, 04 Jan 2016 20:34:02 GMT

@mcall1020 wrote:
Bananas are still 0 points. Its a good program and I like it. The website is very, vry difficult to navigate. There are alot of complaints about it. There's an app called Smart Score that is the same calculator that WW uses to calculate smart points. Its $1.99, but you need the nutritional information to calculate the points. There are no food lists.

Well thank goodness it's not just me and the app. LOL

Yesterday I got a real shocker as to the new points value of an occassional treat I used to have. Every once in awhile I would get a honey bran raisin muffin from Dunkin Donuts. They used to be 9 points way back when. I looked it up yesterday and it's now 18 points! That's more than half of my daily points allowance. No more muffins.

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meem120 — Mon, 04 Jan 2016 20:40:39 GMT

I know we are all in shock about the increase in points of goodies. It does make you think about what you put in your mouth. I was never very successful on P+ program. I losy quiete a bit of weight on Momentum, but for some reason the last program did not work for me. This hopefully will help me lose the last 20 pounds Ive been playing around with.

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SahmIam — Mon, 04 Jan 2016 21:14:50 GMT

@Lipstickdiva : the #1 complaint about the new program is they did a HORRIBLE job with the online part of it; HORRIBLE. There is NO excuse for it and people are demanding refunds for the weeks/months that they have been unable to use it. It's STILL not working and the complaints are in the THOUSANDS.

Understand that if something is thought to be a treat (candy, cake, cookies, muffins, ets) they are going to be SUPER HIGH in points. Example: A 6 ounce cup of Nestle hot cocoa is 17 Smartpoints. A large Starbucks hot cocoa is just under 50 points.

When in doubt, do NOT eat it : (

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Meowingkitty — Mon, 04 Jan 2016 22:33:10 GMT

I feel you are being punished for having a cookie over a chicken breast. The points for a sweet treat are ridiculously high. Several people in my meeting are not happy because all their foods are substantially higher. Sometimes you just got to have that cookie regardless. Even Greek yogurt which is supposed to be good for you doubled in point. So not worth it.

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Luvitorleaveit1 — Mon, 04 Jan 2016 23:10:02 GMT

I just got a card in the mail to join for free. I've been thinking about it I do like the fact that I can eat regular food that doesn't come in a box. I want to check further online.

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fashionqueen — Mon, 04 Jan 2016 23:39:17 GMT

@Meowingkitty .. some greek yogurts are high in sugar and that's the reason for the doubled point value. I choose Dannon light and fit greek - just 2 pts per serving and it comes in tons of flavor varieties.

and, actually we're not being "punished" for having that cookie. If you want the cookie - have it; that's what your additional weekly points are for. However, WW is simply encouraging all of us to make healthier food choices and be aware of what we're eating.

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Tadaki — Tue, 05 Jan 2016 01:29:13 GMT

I canceled my subscription today. Tracking with the new software is taking too much time and I can never find meals that I saved, even after watching the video. Also, I've tracked for a long time so I'm going to try it on my own.

I have Weight Watchers ice cream bars in the freezer that say 3 points on the box and are now 6 points. Clif bars used to be 7 points, now 9 points. I did very well with points plus and always assumed their point system had some basis. When they make a dramatic change like this, it makes me wonder what in the world they were basing things on with points plus. But I didn't mind taking time to lose the weight. I wasn't trying to lose it quickly. Maybe that's the difference.

Besides the tracker being so difficult to use, I don't understand the timing. Why would you introduce it at Thanksgiving when people are swamped? I had several days I didn't even try because I didn't have time to learn something new.

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conlt — Tue, 05 Jan 2016 01:32:57 GMT

I am on it since the new program came out in the beginning of December. I eat a Banana daily and it is "zero" points. I am not sure what you are doing to make it 1. I go to meetings but use the app. I have no problems with it. I did upgrade my phone from an Iphone 4 to 6 S Plus because the iphone 4 was too old to run the app correctly.

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conlt — Tue, 05 Jan 2016 01:37:11 GMT

I too was upset with the new points for treats. My little weight watchers mini cakes used to be 2 points and now they are 4 or 5. I do wear a fitbit and the extra activity points add up fast with that. I hated the new point system, liked points plus better and did very well at that. I think I have learned to navigate with the additional activity points. I got an extra 8 today. That is the weight watchers ice cream cone that used to be 4 but now is 8 lol. In the supermarket they are still selling the mini cakes with the "2" points on the box. I can understand we need to limit our sweets but for me, that is my indulgence and yes now in the new system I feel punished.

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conlt — Tue, 05 Jan 2016 01:38:23 GMT

I like it lost 22 pounds since September 26th. I was a little shocked with the new system but have learned to work around it with the fitbit activity points.

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Tissyanne — Tue, 05 Jan 2016 04:24:44 GMT

I started Smart Points on December 13th, and as of yesterday have lost 9 pounds. I am not having any problems with the app. Bananas are 0 points. I just looked up Nestle Hot Cocoa , and all versions show 4 to 5 points for one cup. I have enjoyed some sweets since Dec. 13th, thumbprint type, and 3 different Cheryl's Christmas cookies. Tonight I had 3 steak fresco style tacos with extra tomatoes for 12 points. My smart phone is a Samsung tracfone bought here at QVC. I downloaded the app and it has worked fine. I do attend the meetings, and feel that is the only way for me to go. Good luck to all who are wanting to lose weight. For me, WW has always been the way to go.

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kahootz — Tue, 05 Jan 2016 06:32:50 GMT

I really like Oprah and never missed a show, but if the new WW website is anything like her own website, then I can see your aggrevation. i will rarely go on her website anymore because it's so hard to navigate (not to mention the ads and the fact you have to "flip" from page to page for the info you want).

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SahmIam — Tue, 05 Jan 2016 11:48:39 GMT

@Tissyanne: The Nestle points are for JUST the mix; add in the points for the milk (if you use milk) and it jumps up very quickly. There is a long thread on the W community board about the Nestle cocoa ad a very upset member who indulged nt knowing the points since it used to be much lower under the old system.

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Snoopp — Tue, 05 Jan 2016 13:11:51 GMT

I was thinking of using WW online only. It sounds like it isn't really working. What do y'all thing, is it a waste of time right now? How bad is it?

Does anyone know the name of any other online programs that might be working better?

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Tissyanne — Tue, 05 Jan 2016 16:49:36 GMT

8 ounces of Fairlife Skim milk is 2 Smart Points. If you added this to the Nestle Hot Cocoa it would be 6 points. I believe the milk is already in the mix, and you just add hot water. At any rate, the points are not 17.

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Snoopp — Tue, 05 Jan 2016 17:18:44 GMT

I'm not joining at this time. The reviews I read were just awful for the online plan. Apparently the data isn't being stored. I'll cross my fingers the tech people figure out what the issues are and fix them soon.

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Lipstickdiva — Tue, 05 Jan 2016 20:41:39 GMT

@Snoopp wrote:
I'm not joining at this time. The reviews I read were just awful for the online plan. Apparently the data isn't being stored. I'll cross my fingers the tech people figure out what the issues are and fix them soon.

I think that's probably a wise choice. I'm ready to call them and tell them to cancel my membership, refund my money and I'll join when they get the kinks worked out.

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SahmIam — Tue, 05 Jan 2016 21:35:57 GMT

@Tissyanne wrote:
8 ounces of Fairlife Skim milk is 2 Smart Points. If you added this to the Nestle Hot Cocoa it would be 6 points. I believe the milk is already in the mix, and you just add hot water. At any rate, the points are not 17.

Yes, they are, but ok. The fact is there are many different versions of the Nestle Hot Cocoa mix. Also, Starbucks has one that is 38 points. Duncan Donuts has one for 21.

Milk went WAY up in points so those of us on it before the new program didn't worry so much about hot cocoa; even with whole milk, it wasn't a bad amount of points. Now....

The thing is, you can't assume with ANY product anymore; they differ so much. And unless you are 100% sure they're using skim milk, you really have to be careful. (the thread on the WW was discusses how skim milk and water didn't needed to be used as milk was 0-2 points in the past. VERY different from the new program)