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Anyone knowledgeable about Resting Heart Rates?

AlleyCat — Thu, 12 Feb 2015 15:35:15 GMT

I take my blood pressure every morning and it is usually around 100 over 60 something but my pulse is usually around 88-90. I've mentioned this to my doctor before and he didn't seem concerned about it. I am not overweight (in fact, over the past 8 months I lost 38 pounds) and exercise daily. I am currently trying to modify my sugar and sodium intake so I know that is something I need to work on. I feel like being in good shape that the resting heart rate should be lower. It is about the same as when I was overweight. Any thoughts or suggestions? I will add that I am kind of an uptight person so maybe that contributes.

Thanks!

Re: Anyone knowledgeable about Resting Heart Rates?

sidsmom — Thu, 12 Feb 2015 16:48:30 GMT

Lots of things can affect your heart rate. Here are a few examples below...do these apply?

-) Mental stress (ie. Work, life stress)
-) Physical stress from intensive training
-) Insufficient recovery, rest, sleep
-) Poor diet (ie. too many refined carbs, not enough fruit, vegetables)
-) High altitude, dehydration, jet lag
-) Excessive alcohol, hangovers
-) Smoking
-) Illness, inflammation, disease
-) Increasing age

Re: Anyone knowledgeable about Resting Heart Rates?

AlleyCat — Thu, 12 Feb 2015 17:35:55 GMT

On 2/12/2015 sidsmom said:
Lots of things can affect your heart rate. Here are a few examples below...do these apply?

-) Mental stress (ie. Work, life stress)
-) Physical stress from intensive training
-) Insufficient recovery, rest, sleep
-) Poor diet (ie. too many refined carbs, not enough fruit, vegetables)
-) High altitude, dehydration, jet lag
-) Excessive alcohol, hangovers
-) Smoking
-) Illness, inflammation, disease
-) Increasing age

Well I would say I have the ones I bolded. My diet is poor due to excess sugar and sodium but I do eat plenty of fruit. I have less stress that last year but I wake up at least 2 times a night so I never get quality sleep. All things I need to work on. Thank you.

Re: Anyone knowledgeable about Resting Heart Rates?

2blonde — Thu, 12 Feb 2015 17:44:23 GMT

I agree the things you bolded would contribute to a higher heart rate. I'd like to add that the heart is a muscle. As you build a stronger heart muscle (through vigorous weight training and aerobic exercise) that should make a big difference in your heart rate. When I was young, before I started working out, my normal heart rate was 80-90, and I was quite thin. I'm still thin at 66, but my resting heart rate is 64-66, and has been for the last 30-35 years that I've been a workout nut. I also think you need to check it in the evening after sitting quietly for at least 5 minutes. It does tend to be higher in the a.m.

Re: Anyone knowledgeable about Resting Heart Rates?

AlleyCat — Thu, 12 Feb 2015 18:04:28 GMT

On 2/12/2015 2blonde said:
I agree the things you bolded would contribute to a higher heart rate. I'd like to add that the heart is a muscle. As you build a stronger heart muscle (through vigorous weight training and aerobic exercise) that should make a big difference in your heart rate. When I was young, before I started working out, my normal heart rate was 80-90, and I was quite thin. I'm still thin at 66, but my resting heart rate is 64-66, and has been for the last 30-35 years that I've been a workout nut. I also think you need to check it in the evening after sitting quietly for at least 5 minutes. It does tend to be higher in the a.m.

Oh. I always check it in the morning right after waking. I will try that and see how the results differ. Also I use a wrist cuff blood pressure monitor; is there a major difference between the wrist and the arm cuff?

Re: Anyone knowledgeable about Resting Heart Rates?

Plaid Pants — Thu, 12 Feb 2015 18:08:01 GMT

From the Mayo Clinic:

What's a normal resting heart rate?

Answers from Edward R. Laskowski, M.D.

A normal resting heart rate for adults ranges from 60 to 100 beats a minute.

Generally, a lower heart rate at rest implies more efficient heart function and better cardiovascular fitness. For example, a well-trained athlete might have a normal resting heart rate closer to 40 beats a minute.

To measure your heart rate, simply check your pulse. Place your index and third fingers on your neck to the side of your windpipe. To check your pulse at your wrist, place two fingers between the bone and the tendon over your radial artery — which is located on the thumb side of your wrist.

When you feel your pulse, count the number of beats in 15 seconds. Multiply this number by 4 to calculate your beats per minute.

Keep in mind that many factors can influence heart rate, including:

Activity level
Fitness level
Air temperature
Body position (standing up or lying down, for example)
Emotions
Body size
Medications

Although there's a wide range of normal, an unusually high or low heart rate may indicate an underlying problem. Consult your doctor if your resting heart rate is consistently above 100 beats a minute (tachycardia) or below 60 beats a minute (bradycardia) — especially if you have other signs or symptoms, such as fainting, dizziness or shortness of breath.

Re: Anyone knowledgeable about Resting Heart Rates?

GloriBee — Thu, 12 Feb 2015 18:21:10 GMT

Very interesting thread! Thanks!

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soonersis — Thu, 12 Feb 2015 18:52:34 GMT

On 2/12/2015 AlleyCat said:
On 2/12/2015 sidsmom said:
Lots of things can affect your heart rate. Here are a few examples below...do these apply?

-) Mental stress (ie. Work, life stress) -) Physical stress from intensive training -) Insufficient recovery, rest, sleep -) Poor diet (ie. too many refined carbs, not enough fruit, vegetables) -) High altitude, dehydration, jet lag -) Excessive alcohol, hangovers -) Smoking -) Illness, inflammation, disease -) Increasing age

Well I would say I have the ones I bolded. My diet is poor due to excess sugar and sodium but I do eat plenty of fruit. I have less stress that last year but I wake up at least 2 times a night so I never get quality sleep. All things I need to work on. Thank you.

AlleyCat, you stated you would like to modify your sugar intake so you might want to take a look at your fruit consumption as many fruit are very high in sugar (fructose). While you will get nutrients from fruit that you would not from regular table sugar (such as that in candy or other sweet foods), it's still just sugar in your body.

Re: Anyone knowledgeable about Resting Heart Rates?

sidsmom — Thu, 12 Feb 2015 19:52:27 GMT

Don't want to take this OT, but fruit sugars are much, much different than simple, processed sugars. Fruit provides fiber that slows down the release of natural sugars. If you are active, there isn't a need to limit fruit consumption.

Re: Anyone knowledgeable about Resting Heart Rates?

sidsmom — Thu, 12 Feb 2015 19:52:40 GMT

I was going to start another thread about this topic, but I was afraid there wouldn't be any interest, so...here goes!

After years & years of over-training in the anaerobic levels, it caused me to have many symptoms...including an elevated resting heart rate (HR). Since slowing down my workouts to the aerobic range only...180-(your age)=ceiling of training heart rate...I see many positive results which includes lower HR levels.

Besides a regular HR monitor, another measurement I'm using is called "Heart Rate Variability" (HRV). It takes your HR & measures the time between the "R" waves (think of an EKG...R waves are the high point of your heartbeat on an EKG). If I'm not sleeping, stressed, not eating right or exercising too hard, the variability will be low between those R waves.

The HRV tool I use to measure this is an App called, "ithlete". I strap on my Bluetooth HR monitor every morning & it calculates Green (maintain normal routine), Yellow (less activity) or Red (relax day). Many stressors will factor into this measurement...it's not just a workout tool. A low HRV measurement could also be a prediction that you're getting ill or unconsciously worrying about something.

Is it necessary everyone measure their HRV? No, but it does produce interesting data. I could be moving every day & have a high HRV, but...as I'm doing right now...travelled this week to be w/ my mother in the hospital...sitting all day, little sleep, not eating right, dehydrated...and my HRV is very low. It's not just about structured workouts. Though, HRV is a consistent reminder how important other stressors are in your life.

Resting heart rate is just your body trying to talk to you...and it's up to us to figure it out! Hope this helps!

Re: Anyone knowledgeable about Resting Heart Rates?

Plaid Pants — Thu, 12 Feb 2015 19:56:42 GMT

On 2/12/2015 sidsmom said:
Don't want to take this OT, but fruit sugars are much, much different than simple, processed sugars. Fruit provides fiber that slows down the release of natural sugars. If you are active, there isn't a need to limit fruit consumption.

Agreed. Not all sugars are the same.

Just like all carbs are not the same.

Just like all fats are not the same.

Certain carbs are better for you than others.

Certain fats are better for you than others.

Re: Anyone knowledgeable about Resting Heart Rates?

hckynut — Thu, 12 Feb 2015 20:31:52 GMT

I am knowledgeable about resting heart rates/aerobic heart rate and anaerobic threshold heart rate.

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sfnative — Thu, 12 Feb 2015 22:27:20 GMT

On 2/12/2015 sidsmom said:
Don't want to take this OT, but fruit sugars are much, much different than simple, processed sugars. Fruit provides fiber that slows down the release of natural sugars. If you are active, there isn't a need to limit fruit consumption.

Thank you for providing clarification for the OP. I was about to indicate same.

Re: Anyone knowledgeable about Resting Heart Rates?

AlleyCat — Thu, 12 Feb 2015 22:52:57 GMT

On 2/12/2015 sfnative said:
On 2/12/2015 sidsmom said:
Don't want to take this OT, but fruit sugars are much, much different than simple, processed sugars. Fruit provides fiber that slows down the release of natural sugars. If you are active, there isn't a need to limit fruit consumption.

Thank you for providing clarification for the OP. I was about to indicate same.

I appreciate this as I love fruit. Would you say that a person can eat as much fruit as they would like as long as they are active?

ETA: How much does fruit affect blood sugar? I am not diabetic but both my grandmothers were.

Re: Anyone knowledgeable about Resting Heart Rates?

sidsmom — Fri, 13 Feb 2015 00:59:04 GMT

If your cholestrol levels are a concern, fruit intake should be limited to 2-3x/day. Since fruit tastes so darn good (!), it's easy to over-consume in terms of calories. If you're active, fruit provides the carbohydrates needed to fuel your workout.

Today's media has done an excellent job by pulling back the curtain on the evils of sugar. But unfortunately, it's "throw the baby out w/ the bath water" thinking. Somehow, fruit got tangled up in this thinking & the public automatically associates fruit as equal or worse than processed sugar.

Fruit is a whole food. Almost in the same breathrough, people mention diabetes. There are many "nutritional camps" on the treating of diabetes. I come from the Low Fat, Whole Foods, Plant Based camp to treat diabetes. Eliminate the fat, the blood sugars will drop. Eliminate animal products (meat, eggs, dairy), the blood sugars will drop. Eliminate processed foods, the blood sugars will drop. Fat will sloooow the blood down....so much that eating an innocent orange (which is perfect on its own) after consuming fat, the blood sugars will rise....and everyone will blame the innocent orange instead of the fat being consumed. Drs. John McDougall & Calwell Esselstyn are two excellent resources for further research on a LFWFPB diet.

Re: Anyone knowledgeable about Resting Heart Rates?

soonersis — Fri, 13 Feb 2015 19:11:08 GMT

Berries, green apples, lemons, and limes are considered low sugar fruits, many of these with good amounts of fiber.

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Bird — Fri, 13 Feb 2015 19:40:37 GMT

This is interesting to follow. My RHR is usually 59-60. When I am not juice fasting I have very high BP, but the heart rate stays low. When juice fasting, BP gets normal and RHR lowers into the high 50's. - Bird