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New study on eye disease & supplements!

1Professor — Sun, 08 Sep 2024 21:49:11 GMT

Medical web cites just reporting that a specific combination of vitamins and minerals may slow the progression of some eye diseases.

Great discussion of macular degeneration.

The supplement studied was called AREDS2:

containing vitamins C, E, lutein, zeaxanthin, zinc, and copper.

Study spearheaded by the National Eye Institute published in the journal Ophthalmology in July 2024.

Turns out that these EXACT ingredients are all found in Andrew Lessman's ULTIMATE EYE SUPPORT with astaxanthin, which I've taken for the last year. [Home Shopping Network]

Lessman is often ahead of medical research.

His Eye Support supp is, however, not just for those with eye diease, but EVERYONE. Our eyes need this.

(I come from a family of eye docs.)

Re: New study on eye disease & supplements!

1Professor — Sun, 08 Sep 2024 22:05:40 GMT

I applaud everyone who has already been conscious of the need for lutein and zeaxanthin, who are taking supplments from their local drug stores. Good job.

Now, check the label. On whatever you are taking.

I have a recent bottle of EYE PROMISE, someone gave me. Does NOT have all these ingredients.

Lessman's supps, in addition, are known for great absorbency.

Re: New study on eye disease & supplements!

shoesnbags — Sun, 08 Sep 2024 22:10:45 GMT

This is not something exclusive to Andrew Lessman. I've been taking an AREDS 2 supplement for eyes based on my opthalmologist's advice for some time now. And I've seen other posters mention taking these supplements, too. My doctor suggested several different brands to choose from. The one I'm taking is PreserVision by Bausch & Lomb, but there are others that are similar. My doctor didn't mention Andrew Lessman, though.

ETA And yes, this supplement was based directly on the results of the study.

Re: New study on eye disease & supplements!

1Professor — Sun, 08 Sep 2024 22:11:29 GMT

@shoesnbags wrote:
This is not something exclusive to Andrew Lessman. I've been taking an AREDS 2 supplement for eyes based on my opthalmologist's advise for some time now. And I've seen other posters mention taking these supplements, too. My doctor suggested several different brands to choose from. The one I'm taking is PreserVision byBausch & Lomb, but there are others that are similar. The doctor didn't mention Andrew Lessman, though.

@shoesnbags Fabulous doc, applause for that clinician, as well.

That's why I lifted out the exact supp tested in the study (and cited the exact journal).

Your eyes and vision will last a long, long time.

Re: New study on eye disease & supplements!

kze — Sun, 08 Sep 2024 22:28:00 GMT

Yes I've been taking Areds2 by Preservision for quite a while as recommended by my ophthalmologist and retina specialist. Also recommended by the N.I.H.

Re: New study on eye disease & supplements!

1Professor — Sun, 08 Sep 2024 22:43:52 GMT

@shoesnbags @kze + all

I found the Bausch & Lomb Preservision ARED2 on Amazon, great price!

Only thing not included (which was not part of the study) is the ingredient astaxanthin, more recent and probably not available then (as a scholar I can inform all that a published study was actually started 2-3 years before publication, which is a tedious process to survive).

NIH [National Institute of Health] reports that a growing body of evidence suggests astaxanthin is efficacious in the prevention and treatment of several eye diseases. Astaxanthin is a chemical group called carotenoids. Might protect cells from damage and improve the way our immune system functions.

Recent investigations suggest astaxanthin might help in dry eye syndrome, cataract, keratitis, diabetic retinopathy, to name a few . . .

Re: New study on eye disease & supplements!

Snowpuppy — Sun, 08 Sep 2024 23:10:12 GMT

I had a severe reaction to astaxanthin. It's derrived mostly from shellfish and I'm allergic and no idea how it was sourced.

My symptoms were breathing diffuculties and skin rash and itch.

Please research the ingredient stack of any supplement. It's irresponsible to say "everyone needs this".

Re: New study on eye disease & supplements!

1Professor — Sun, 08 Sep 2024 23:11:03 GMT

@Snowpuppy wrote:
I had a severe reaction to astaxanthin. It's derrived mostly from shellfish and I'm allergic and no idea how it was sourced.

My symptoms were breathing diffuculties and skin rash and itch.

@Snowpuppy Excellent warning for all, thanks so much!

Probably depends, also, on "how much" astaxanthin was involved, but for some, ANY amount is of concern!

I've been taking it in the eye supp for over a year, so far no reaction. But everyone is different!

Re: New study on eye disease & supplements!

Kachina624 — Sun, 08 Sep 2024 23:36:00 GMT

@1Professor. I was diagnosed with Macular Degeneration 6 or 7 years ago, as was my sister. Both of our parents had it and became legally blind.

At the suggestion of ophthalmologist, I immediately started taking Areds2. So far, so good....it doesn't seem to have progressed.

I wouldn't trust my eyes to a TV supplement salesman.

Re: New study on eye disease & supplements!

1Professor — Sun, 08 Sep 2024 23:34:34 GMT

@Kachina624 wrote:
@1Professor. I was diagnosed with Macular Degeneration 6 or 7 years ago, as was my sister. Both of our parents had it and became legally blind.

At the suggestion of optometrist, I immediately started taking Areds2. So far, so good....it doesn't seem to have progressed.

@Kachina624

Fabulous results. So glad for you.

I am increasingly being educated on, and appreciating, AREDS2.

Re: New study on eye disease & supplements!

RescueLover — Sun, 08 Sep 2024 23:51:27 GMT

As I’m reading this I’m wondering why my surgeon that did my 45 minute Epi-Retinal eye surgery didn’t mention such an important supplement to me.

But after reading that a poster had an allergic reaction due to a shellfish allergy I’m guessing is the reason why.

Bummed that I can’t take it. 😔

Re: New study on eye disease & supplements!

Love my grandkids — Mon, 09 Sep 2024 00:36:32 GMT

@Kachina624 ITA with you as far at TV sales people and am glad you are doing well with your eyes.

Re: New study on eye disease & supplements!

AZfem — Mon, 09 Sep 2024 00:39:38 GMT

Areds 2 has been the recommended brand for some years & I was advised to take it some time ago by retina doctor. It is available everywhere - groceries, Target, Wal-Mart, etc. I buy mine at grocery store on senior discount day with a coupon.

Re: New study on eye disease & supplements!

granddi — Mon, 09 Sep 2024 00:53:09 GMT

This is also from NIH:

There is mounting evidence that carotenoids may positively affect cognitive function through their antioxidant and anti-inflammatory effects. However, these compounds may act more specifically in the neural circuits by increasing neural efficiency or stabilizing lipid-protein structures in neuronal membranes.

Re: New study on eye disease & supplements!

1Professor — Mon, 09 Sep 2024 00:55:41 GMT

@RescueLover wrote:

As I’m reading this I’m wondering why my surgeon that did my 45 minute Epi-Retinal eye surgery didn’t mention such an important supplement to me.

But after reading that a poster had an allergic reaction due to a shellfish allergy I’m guessing is the reason why.

Bummed that I can’t take it. 😔

@RescueLover

First, the allergic reaction was ONLY for supplements containing astaxanthin. Most do NOT. ONly that Lessman one I mentioned.

AREDS 2 does not have the shellfish.

Many eye care specialists with large health care organizations do NOT mention supplements, unless YOU bring it up.

Everyone needs zeaxanthin and lutein.

Re: New study on eye disease & supplements!

granddi — Mon, 09 Sep 2024 01:19:12 GMT

Off topic:

Not all medical specialists carefully inform patients of all care options. Not that they are not informed but for some reason supplements are not introduced. Maybe it's just my particular specialists?

Overwhelming evidence to support the use of Nicotinamide (not niacin) for pre-skin cancer lesions called AK. Husband has been a 10 year patient at a major university medical center with multiple moh's surgeries. Q to dermatologist: do you recommend Nicotinamide: A: oh yes. Me wonder: why have you never discussed this?

Just went to Endo for bone. Me: do you have a list of recommended supplements that I would need to take? PA: If you want all that this is not the place for you!

2 GI docs and neither ever recommended Probiotics. One recommended metamucil.

Me to cardiologist: Are there supplements that you recommend for cardio health? Doc: oh some are ok.

I have unilateral heaing loss. My ENT has NEVER given me a list of meds to avoid that can be ototoxic--one is aspirin.

I'm envious of those that say "I just check with my doctor"

Re: New study on eye disease & supplements!

Nana2158 — Mon, 09 Sep 2024 02:02:48 GMT

Last week appointment with my optometrist no eye issues.

Andrew Lessman: Isn't a snake oil salesman.

His credentials are impressive. Callie, anniversary show shared his credentials: wow! He's not only a scientist, chemist, also attorney, and more. His commitment providing quality products with his responsibility towards the environment, also providing prenatal supplements for those not able affording prenatal care added reason my appreciation for all his contributions, and the upmost respect. Wish him all the best now and forever.

Re: New study on eye disease & supplements!

shoesnbags — Mon, 09 Sep 2024 02:07:14 GMT

@granddi wrote:
Off topic:

Not all medical specialists carefully inform patients of all care options. Not that they are not informed but for some reason supplements are not introduced. Maybe it's just my particular specialists?

Overwhelming evidence to support the use of Nicotinamide (not niacin) for pre-skin cancer lesions called AK. Husband has been a 10 year patient at a major university medical center with multiple moh's surgeries. Q to dermatologist: do you recommend Nicotinamide: A: oh yes. Me wonder: why have you never discussed this?

Just went to Endo for bone. Me: do you have a list of recommended supplements that I would need to take? PA: If you want all that this is not the place for you!

2 GI docs and neither ever recommended Probiotics. One recommended metamucil.

Me to cardiologist: Are there supplements that you recommend for cardio health? Doc: oh some are ok.

I have unilateral heaing loss. My ENT has NEVER given me a list of meds to avoid that can be ototoxic--one is aspirin.

I'm envious of those that say "I just check with my doctor"

Good point, @granddi . And it can happen within the same practice. For years I was seeing the head doctor at the opthalmology practice. He is much older and never mentioned the AREDS2 supplement, even though I have macular degeneration. Then one year I saw one of the younger doctors for my annual checkup instead and he recommended the supplement. After that I never booked the older doctor again.

Re: New study on eye disease & supplements!

RescueLover — Mon, 09 Sep 2024 02:19:17 GMT

Oh that’s good to hear!! Thanks for explaining that to me! @1Professor 🤗

I’m going to see if I can find it locally. I sometimes worry about ordering from Amazon if it’s not really what it says it is or it’s been tampered with or if it’s not made in the USA.

I have an appt this fall with a cataract specialist because the Epi Retinal surgery causes cataracts to start much earlier than most people have them.

I really appreciate you posting about this very important matter!! Our vision is priceless. 🤗🤗🤗

Re: New study on eye disease & supplements!

RescueLover — Mon, 09 Sep 2024 02:24:06 GMT

Question for You @1Professor

Do you know if I can I get that Bausch & Lomb Preservision ARED2 at my local pharmacy or Target or Walmart?