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Has anyone tried Turmeric for joint issues...

Nonametoday — Mon, 02 Sep 2024 16:25:20 GMT

...with great success and if so, can I hear your story?

I have a ruptured disk, 2 bulging disks, spinal stenosis and osteoporosis plus I have bone-on-bone in my knees. I had MS years ago but I have been in a good remission for many years. I have done extremely well with all those maladies until recently. I have taken Fosamax, Forteo, Reclast injections and Prolia shots but now my teeth are getting really bad because bones in gum area are getting so hard, teeth are pulling away and my pain in back, knees, back, hands, ankles, wrists, etc.

I need something besides steroids, NSAIDs and Tylenol. I don't like to be drug-dependent.

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Tinkrbl44 — Mon, 02 Sep 2024 17:40:31 GMT

@Nonametoday wrote:
...with great success and if so, can I hear your story?

I have a ruptured disk, 2 bulging disks, spinal stenosis and osteoporosis plus I have bone-on-bone in my knees. I had MS years ago but I have been in a good remission for many years. I have done extremely well with all those maladies until recently. I have taken Fosamax, Forteo, Reclast injections and Prolia shots but now my teeth are getting really bad because bones in gum area are getting so hard, teeth are pulling away and my pain in back, knees, back, hands, ankles, wrists, etc.

I need something besides steroids, NSAIDs and Tylenol. I don't like to be drug-dependent.

@Nonametoday

Wow. Do you see any specialists or just your PCP?

I don't know if this might help, but a roll-on with lidocaine like Aspercreme or Salon Pas gives me relief and reduces pain by about 35%, allowing me to take fewer pills.

I tried tumeric with curcumin capsules and in less then a week I was getting red blotches, so I stopped. I can't speak to whether I got any relief.

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gtx — Mon, 02 Sep 2024 17:46:54 GMT

I take turmeric, glucosamine chondroitin, and collegen peptides, all from Andrew Lessman. They all help. I take the recommended dose of glucosamine which is 5 capsules per day. I have herniated discs and arthritis. I don't take any perscription drugs.

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Nonametoday — Mon, 02 Sep 2024 17:51:17 GMT

I see a neurologist, orthopedics and endocrinologist in addition to my internal medicine specialist. I use Voltaren cream. I just don't have anyone to put it on my back because my husband is disabled, deaf and almost blind and I care for him.

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Nonametoday — Mon, 02 Sep 2024 17:52:28 GMT

@gtx wrote:
I take turmeric, glucosamine chondroitin, and collegen peptides, all from Andrew Lessman. They all help. I take the recommended dose of glucosamine which is 5 capsules per day. I have herniated discs and arthritis. I don't take any perscription drugs.

@gtx

Thank you. I am going to try that. I have been getting steroid injections, some IV steroids and lots of other stuff, all of which is bad on my osteoporosis and I want something that is not going to damage me any further.

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Icegoddess — Mon, 02 Sep 2024 17:56:24 GMT

@Nonametoday with all your health issues, I would consult my doctor before starting it. Just because it's natural doesn't mean it's safe. Turmeric can act as a blood thinner. My husband takes it and I guess it helps somewhat, but he also doesn't believe me about the blood thinner part and then wonders why he has all these nasty bruises anytime he barely hits something.

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msgb — Mon, 02 Sep 2024 18:01:05 GMT

If you have a tendency to kidney stones it is my understanding to stay away from tumeric.

There is magnesium (stay away from the oxide form as it tends to be the cheapest and the least effective) that is a good help with issue.

My mother had bone on bone in her knees. With her the only thing that helped with that was to have both knees replaced but not at the same time.

There are patches such as Salonpas that have a patch that is Over the counter to lessen the pain.

Ginger tablets and fish oil are anti inflammatories as well.

What you might seek out are medical grad compression garments.

Also accupuncture might be of help as well.

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Nonametoday — Mon, 02 Sep 2024 18:00:53 GMT

@Icegoddess wrote:
@Nonametoday with all your health issues, I would consult my doctor before starting it. Just because it's natural doesn't mean it's safe. Turmeric can act as a blood thinner. My husband takes it and I guess it helps somewhat, but he also doesn't believe me about the blood thinner part and then wonders why he has all these nasty bruises anytime he barely hits something.

@Icegoddess

I certainly would. I always do. Doctors don't even like me to have to take oral steroids, ASA or NSAIDs because I then have issues with bleeding. I have been monitored, over the time I was taking one ASA per day for heart protection, for a blood dyscrasia which I apparently do not have but still see hematologist in that regard as he likes to monitor my labs.

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Nonametoday — Mon, 02 Sep 2024 18:02:42 GMT

@msgb wrote:
If you have a tendency to kidney stones it is my understanding to stay away from tumeric.
There is magnesium (stay away from the oxide form as it tends to be the cheapest and the least effective) that is a good help with issue.

My mother had bone on bone in her knees. With her the only thing that helped with that was to have both knees replaced but not at the same time.

There are patches such as Salonpas that have a patch that is Over the counter to lessen the pain.

Ginger tablets and fish oil are anti inflammatories as well.

What you might seek out are medical grad compression garments.

Also accupuncture might be of help as well.

@msgb

I can't have replacement for a time due to breast surgery and dental extractions, removing all those implants and others that were just crowned because of the Prolia damage.

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Kachina624 — Mon, 02 Sep 2024 18:18:32 GMT

@msgb. Yes, I just finished a bottle of Andrew Lessman turmeric I bought to try for my joint and back pain. It did absolutely nothing for me. I might as well have popped M&Ms.

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SilleeMee — Mon, 02 Sep 2024 18:20:41 GMT

@Nonametoday

How did the Prolia damage your existing dental implants? That doesn't sound right to me. I'm on Prolia and I have several existing implants so I'm just asking.

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Shelbelle — Mon, 02 Sep 2024 18:29:58 GMT

For joint issues try UC Collagen II, take one 40 mg cap daily. Look up older threads here for joint issues, there are several older very helpful ones

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Kachina624 — Mon, 02 Sep 2024 18:42:29 GMT

As far as I'm concerned, all the folk medicine "cures" for joint pain are just money down a rat hole. Why waste it when you can go to the doctor and get something that will actually work? You waste precious time while the condition worsens.

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luvmybeetle — Mon, 02 Sep 2024 22:02:57 GMT

@SilleeMee wrote:
@Nonametoday
How did the Prolia damage your existing dental implants? That doesn't sound right to me. I'm on Prolia and I have several existing implants so I'm just asking.

I would also like to know this as I take Prolia shots.

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katie1859 — Mon, 02 Sep 2024 22:36:18 GMT

Be VERY careful with Turmeric. Even though it's the craze in supplements

It has a high level of toxicity so do your homework before you take it.

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Ainhisg — Mon, 02 Sep 2024 22:56:11 GMT

I've taken turmeric and collagen type II, and neither one did anything for my joints. In fact, I've tried both supplements more than once for months at a time and always bought brands a third-party testing site (Consumer Labs) recommended. I always hoped that "this time" I would feel some difference or notice improvement. Nope. So neither of those supplements work for me.

What I have taken for years and know helps me is the sulfate forms of Glucosamine/Chondroitin. This is the one I take:

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AuntG — Mon, 02 Sep 2024 23:12:28 GMT

@Ainhisg wrote:
I've taken turmeric and collagen type II, and neither one did anything for my joints. In fact, I've tried both supplements more than once for months at a time and always bought brands a third-party testing site (Consumer Labs) recommended. I always hoped that "this time" I would feel some difference or notice improvement. Nope. So neither of those supplements work for me.

What I have taken for years and know helps me is the sulfate forms of Glucosamine/Chondroitin. This is the one I take:

I'd try this this for minor joint pain, but you might not get relief. Too many side effects with tumeric.

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Nonametoday — Mon, 02 Sep 2024 23:24:39 GMT

@SilleeMee wrote:
@Nonametoday
How did the Prolia damage your existing dental implants? That doesn't sound right to me. I'm on Prolia and I have several existing implants so I'm just asking.

@SilleeMee

It causes the gums and cadaveric bone grafts that I had to harden and the teeth pulled away from it. I had them replaced a couple times but to no avail and I was getting nerve pain (trigeminal neuralgia) in that area, so it was felt best to remove them and try to wear partials (which I hate) but I do what I can. I was warned not to take the Prolia with so much dental work by one oral surgeon but another endodontist said he saw no contraindications as did my hematologist. As my grandmother used to say "bought wit can be expensive but it's the best you will ever get."

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SilleeMee — Mon, 02 Sep 2024 23:36:17 GMT

@Nonametoday wrote:
@SilleeMee wrote:
@Nonametoday
How did the Prolia damage your existing dental implants? That doesn't sound right to me. I'm on Prolia and I have several existing implants so I'm just asking.
@SilleeMee
It causes the gums and cadaveric bone grafts that I had to harden and the teeth pulled away from it. I had them replaced a couple times but to no avail and I was getting nerve pain (trigeminal neuralgia) in that area, so it was felt best to remove them and try to wear partials (which I hate) but I do what I can. I was warned not to take the Prolia with so much dental work by one oral surgeon but another endodontist said he saw no contraindications as did my hematologist. As my grandmother used to say "bought wit can be expensive but it's the best you will ever get."

@Nonametoday

Thank you for responding to my question. Have you taken other bone density drugs?...bisphosphonates such as Boniva, Actonel, Fosamax? TX.

One other question, sorry...

How long before the Prolia did you get implant surgery done? Were you on Prolia already when you had the implant surgery?

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BlueFinch — Mon, 02 Sep 2024 23:35:50 GMT

I've never known anyone who had significant improvement with Tumeric for pain/inflammation. If trials with prescription drugs and treatments (steroid injects, etc) are marginally helpful, Tumeric is no replacement for those treatments. Perhaps it would help someone who had early symptoms, with milder discomfort?

For me, it did nothing, except give me the worst GI distress and heartburn, ever. After reading the side effects and contradictions, I realized it was not safe for me, anyway.

It's known to cause GI distress, it's a blood thinner and those with gallstones need to avoid it. High doses can be toxic. There are probably more cautions, these were just a personal wake up call.

Dietary supplements are not necessarily safer than prescription meds. Docs often write scripts for OTC drugs and supplements. All can have untoward effects. Always check with your health care provider before starting a new supplement.