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Paging Hckynut

SaltAirBreeze — Thu, 05 Jun 2014 22:41:45 GMT

Hi John,

I hope that the tests that your wife will undergo will reveal a condition that can easily be resolved.

In your post, you referenced an old cardiology book that contained a method for relieving tachycardia in a short amount of time. Would you share the title of that book with me? I have paroxysmal a-fib and episodes always begin with tachycardia. Even though I take meds to slow my heart rate, they are not always successful.

Thank you so much for all the good information you post on this forum.

Salty

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SaltAirBreeze — Fri, 06 Jun 2014 21:41:30 GMT

Bring to the top - Hope you see this, John

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hckynut — Fri, 06 Jun 2014 23:58:45 GMT

On 6/5/2014 SaltAirBreeze said:
Hi John,

I hope that the tests that your wife will undergo will reveal a condition that can easily be resolved.

In your post, you referenced an old cardiology book that contained a method for relieving tachycardia in a short amount of time. Would you share the title of that book with me? I have paroxysmal a-fib and episodes always begin with tachycardia. Even though I take meds to slow my heart rate, they are not always successful.

Thank you so much for all the good information you post on this forum.

Salty

Hi to you SaltAirBreeze,

I misstated my source of this information. It was in a non-medical newsletter that I was receiving from one of the subscriptions I had a long time ago. It might have been something I also read in one of the books written by the late Nathan Pritikin who was not a medical doctor. Seems like the book I read was from the late 1970's, long before any doctors were talking about a 10% low fat food program for reversing blocked coronary arteries. Believe it was monthly I don't really remember since it was so long ago. Is this the post of mine below? Just want to make sure we are on the same page on this:

(Post #75 titled "My Wife Once Again")

"Still dealing with my shingles and will be seeing my Cardiologist about my bouts of Tachycardia and see if they can come up with what might be setting this off. I did some reading in my older Cardiology books and I found a way known by a non-medical doctor to bring my heart rate back to normal BPM's within a minute. Shocked I was never told of this procedure over my many years of heart issues and attending 72 Cardiac Rehab Classes."

hckynut(john)

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If this is the one let me know and will see where to go from that point. I really don't like to leave certain things about what worked for me with my heart symptoms of tachycardia and have it be something that possibly could cause harm to someone that has been diagnosed with A-fib or some other heart or cardio related issue. I have never had an A-fib problem with my heart. Trying this method myself I could have also been taking a risk, but after I told my Cardiologist about it he said in his 35 years he has seen this work only once, and with my success, he said now twice, even though he did not actually see it working since I was at home.

Both of my heart attacks were caused by my Right Coronary Artery being 100% blocked. I was diagnoses with CHF(congestive heart failure) for the first year after #2 attack but was able to bet my EF(ejection fraction) number up high enough to change that diagnosis. Not sure the number is the same with everyone with CHF, but I no longer have to limit the amounts of total fluid I consume each day. With CHF the total of all fluids was 64oz. and for me that ain't even a start for most of my days.

Answer if this is the right post of mine and then we can see where to go from there about this method that worked this one time for me.

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sophiamarie — Sat, 07 Jun 2014 01:20:08 GMT

John: It would be interesting to know what you did to lower your HR to normal BPM. You posted that you got your information from a non-medical person in an old cardiology book and someone is asking you for the information. She didn't say she was going to use that method, rather she wants to know what helped you. She asked for the title of the book (or whatever it was you read). I think it was a pretty harmless question.

You responded to her but you never answered her question. What you did, was go on about your medical history, which has nothing at all to do with hers (or anyone else's)...

I would also like to know what you learned from going to 72 Cardiac Rehab classes, that you couldn't have learned from going to one or two classes. A fair question, right?

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hckynut — Sat, 07 Jun 2014 17:52:54 GMT

On 6/6/2014 sophiamarie said:
John: It would be interesting to know what you did to lower your HR to normal BPM. You posted that you got your information from a non-medical person in an old cardiology book and someone is asking you for the information. She didn't say she was going to use that method, rather she wants to know what helped you. She asked for the title of the book (or whatever it was you read). I think it was a pretty harmless question.

You responded to her but you never answered her question. What you did, was go on about your medical history, which has nothing at all to do with hers (or anyone else's)...

I would also like to know what you learned from going to 72 Cardiac Rehab classes, that you couldn't have learned from going to one or two classes. A fair question, right?

Hi sophiamarie

Fair question? All questions on any forums might be fair, but that anyone chooses to do about answering them is solely up to them.

You know me well enough to understand I usually have a "method to my madness", if you will. When it comes to someone diagnosed with a particular heart issue, A-fib being one of them, I do not feel comfortable suggesting things that could possibly harm them. As I said, I have no valve issues and have never experienced or been diagnosed with A-fib, and for me to suggest something that could exacerbate an already known heart issue is not something I want to suggest someone try to do without the knowledge of their diagnosing doctor.

Nothing wrong with anyone asking me a question about anything I've experienced and I am usually very open to sharing most of the things I have learned be they from my own experiences or from researching or attending clinics on the topics. Something that has even a slight chance of causing an event to someone that has been diagnosed with a specific cardiac issue is not something I feel is my place to suggest to them.

Some take A-fib too lightly in my opinion while others seem to look at it as a death sentence. I personally see any heart related issue that needs specific medications to prevent and/or keep it working correctly, as a very serious issue. With that considered I am not going to tell someone a method that worked for me, with no A-fib history or diagnosis when I was experiencing tachycardia, to try something that might make what I see as an already serious issue, more serious or have an even more dire result.

This is not the only issue I kept to myself for similar reasons. I got somewhat the same responses when I mentioned an event I endured a couple years ago and felt it not in the best interest of others to tell this forum the specifics of what it was that I was the issue.

Some have enough problems with reading about symptoms from a medication/event or procedure getting past thinking, "that is my symptom I must be having a ????". For me to disclose some of the things that could be specific to just this old body of mine I see as making things worse for more people that it could possibly help.

You know me well enough from her over time to know that my interest is in helping those with issues I feel I have some knowledge either via my own personal experiences or from my decades of pursuing health and fitness issues when there was little to none at times to be found.

I will wait until SaltAirBreeze, replies and possibly move on with her from that point. If I don't feel comfortable telling her/him what I did for my specific heart with my specific event of tachycardia I won't go any further with that person either.

While knowledge is usually strength, I've said it here and on other forums also, "for some a little knowledge is worse than no knowledge", and if I am the one doing the purveying? Will only go as far as I feel comfortable in doing.

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SaltAirBreeze — Sat, 07 Jun 2014 23:26:00 GMT

John,

Thank you for responding to my question. Yes, I was referring to the portion of your post that you quoted. I would be interested in knowing more, realizing that I am responsible for any actions that I might take. I don't have a valve problem, the a-fib is of unknown origin.

I hope that Cindy is feeling better.

Salty

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serenity4ever — Sun, 08 Jun 2014 02:42:39 GMT

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sophiamarie — Sun, 08 Jun 2014 17:31:45 GMT

Bumping up for John - you were waiting for the OP to return. She did. Will you answer her question now???

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hckynut — Mon, 09 Jun 2014 00:53:57 GMT

On 6/7/2014 SaltAirBreeze said:
John,

Thank you for responding to my question. Yes, I was referring to the portion of your post that you quoted. I would be interested in knowing more, realizing that I am responsible for any actions that I might take. I don't have a valve problem, the a-fib is of unknown origin.

I hope that Cindy is feeling better.

Salty

Hi Salty,

The best way for me give you this information would be via my e-mail. If you bring up my name my e-mail address has always been listed in the "biography box line". This is how I've done this with several others on this forum and also on the Electronics forum when they wanted more specific info from me.

With Electronics it is easier for me to stick with 1 specific person to make sure I am explaining things in a way they can follow. Those things get easily lost because different manufacturers use different terminology for meaning the exact same things.

With this issue, as I said in my rather long reply to "sophiamarie" I am not comfortable with saying or suggesting certain procedures or things that have happened or have worked for this old body. While I talk a lot here there are many times when I leave well enough alone because I am not willing to risk anyone's health or safety because of something I typed on this forum.

I got raked pretty bad some time back when I had a "near death" experience from a certain procedure. Everyone wanted to know what it was but there again I did not see how it would benefit anyone by knowing this.

On the other hand I felt there is a chance some may avoid this procedure because of a fear that is unrelated to what might be their experiences with the same thing. Never disclosed what this was and I have or see no reason to do so now. For me this is an ongoing procedure that I am still having on a "kinda-regular" basis and there has not been another similar episode.

Will wait to receive and e-mail from you and then go from there. If you are uncomfortable e-mailing me I understand. My reason for having been on this BB for so many years is all above board and I've met many good cyber-friends and Cindy and I met 2 of them in person when they were in our city.

Cindy is doing better and will be seeing a couple different doctors this week. One on Tuesday and I am not sure of the other. Gotta see my doctor myself about some tests and also have a followup on these danged shingles.

Best to you,

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sophiamarie — Mon, 09 Jun 2014 20:28:53 GMT

On 6/8/2014 hckynut said:
On 6/7/2014 SaltAirBreeze said:
John,

Thank you for responding to my question. Yes, I was referring to the portion of your post that you quoted. I would be interested in knowing more, realizing that I am responsible for any actions that I might take. I don't have a valve problem, the a-fib is of unknown origin.

I hope that Cindy is feeling better.

Salty

Hi Salty,

The best way for me give you this information would be via my e-mail. If you bring up my name my e-mail address has always been listed in the "biography box line". This is how I've done this with several others on this forum and also on the Electronics forum when they wanted more specific info from me.

With Electronics it is easier for me to stick with 1 specific person to make sure I am explaining things in a way they can follow. Those things get easily lost because different manufacturers use different terminology for meaning the exact same things.

With this issue, as I said in my rather long reply to "sophiamarie" I am not comfortable with saying or suggesting certain procedures or things that have happened or have worked for this old body. While I talk a lot here there are many times when I leave well enough alone because I am not willing to risk anyone's health or safety because of something I typed on this forum.

I got raked pretty bad some time back when I had a "near death" experience from a certain procedure. Everyone wanted to know what it was but there again I did not see how it would benefit anyone by knowing this.

On the other hand I felt there is a chance some may avoid this procedure because of a fear that is unrelated to what might be their experiences with the same thing. Never disclosed what this was and I have or see no reason to do so now. For me this is an ongoing procedure that I am still having on a "kinda-regular" basis and there has not been another similar episode.

Will wait to receive and e-mail from you and then go from there. If you are uncomfortable e-mailing me I understand. My reason for having been on this BB for so many years is all above board and I've met many good cyber-friends and Cindy and I met 2 of them in person when they were in our city.

Cindy is doing better and will be seeing a couple different doctors this week. One on Tuesday and I am not sure of the other. Gotta see my doctor myself about some tests and also have a followup on these danged shingles.

Best to you,

Like I didn't see THIS coming.......

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Oneanddone — Mon, 09 Jun 2014 20:37:36 GMT

On 6/9/2014 sophiamarie said:
On 6/8/2014 hckynut said:
On 6/7/2014 SaltAirBreeze said:
John,

Thank you for responding to my question. Yes, I was referring to the portion of your post that you quoted. I would be interested in knowing more, realizing that I am responsible for any actions that I might take. I don't have a valve problem, the a-fib is of unknown origin.

I hope that Cindy is feeling better.

Salty

Hi Salty,

The best way for me give you this information would be via my e-mail. If you bring up my name my e-mail address has always been listed in the "biography box line". This is how I've done this with several others on this forum and also on the Electronics forum when they wanted more specific info from me.

With Electronics it is easier for me to stick with 1 specific person to make sure I am explaining things in a way they can follow. Those things get easily lost because different manufacturers use different terminology for meaning the exact same things.

With this issue, as I said in my rather long reply to "sophiamarie" I am not comfortable with saying or suggesting certain procedures or things that have happened or have worked for this old body. While I talk a lot here there are many times when I leave well enough alone because I am not willing to risk anyone's health or safety because of something I typed on this forum.

I got raked pretty bad some time back when I had a "near death" experience from a certain procedure. Everyone wanted to know what it was but there again I did not see how it would benefit anyone by knowing this.

On the other hand I felt there is a chance some may avoid this procedure because of a fear that is unrelated to what might be their experiences with the same thing. Never disclosed what this was and I have or see no reason to do so now. For me this is an ongoing procedure that I am still having on a "kinda-regular" basis and there has not been another similar episode.

Will wait to receive and e-mail from you and then go from there. If you are uncomfortable e-mailing me I understand. My reason for having been on this BB for so many years is all above board and I've met many good cyber-friends and Cindy and I met 2 of them in person when they were in our city.

Cindy is doing better and will be seeing a couple different doctors this week. One on Tuesday and I am not sure of the other. Gotta see my doctor myself about some tests and also have a followup on these danged shingles.

Best to you,

Like I didn't see THIS coming.......

Same here.

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LilacTree — Mon, 09 Jun 2014 21:11:36 GMT

Why am I not understanding this conversation?

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hckynut — Mon, 09 Jun 2014 22:14:38 GMT

On 6/9/2014 sophiamarie said:

hckynut(john) said:<br />

I got raked pretty bad some time back when I had a "near death" experience from a certain procedure. Everyone wanted to know what it was but there again I did not see how it would benefit anyone by knowing this.

Like I didn't see THIS coming.......

Ahhhh sophiamarie,

Now you weren't one of the many that had the "rake" out that last time some did not agree with how I handled that one, were you? Glad to see you remembered how I handled a similar thing the last time. I am many things and 1 of them is I always try to be consistent, and how I handled this is the same as the last one, and the one before that and the one before that.

No need for anyone to have a crystal ball to peer into with anything similar to this thread or my reply. In some things I have "rules" in other parts of my life I have "standards" and anyone that knows me well, either in cyber-space or in real life, will tell you it makes no difference who or what you are, my same rules and standards apply to best friends/associates and cyber-friends. The exception, maybe? That would be my wife.

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hckynut — Mon, 09 Jun 2014 22:19:31 GMT

On 6/9/2014 Ford1224 said:
Why am I not understanding this conversation?

Sorry Ford1224

Not sure you were around the last time I wanted to keep something from those that read this forum. The only reason I even brought up the previous event was because someone asked me if I was having any medical problems because I was MIA from here for some time.

I didn't(and don't)want to be specific of the "what" of it because I think many here might have to have this procedure done and did not want to cause undue worry to any one of them. What happened to me was very, very rare and sharing it? I felt the harm would out value what little good it would do for those that go through procedure as do I, which is without worrying. And people like that, as you now, are in a pretty small minority.

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sophiamarie — Mon, 09 Jun 2014 22:48:17 GMT

On 6/9/2014 hckynut said:
On 6/9/2014 sophiamarie said:

hckynut(john) said:<br />

I got raked pretty bad some time back when I had a "near death" experience from a certain procedure. Everyone wanted to know what it was but there again I did not see how it would benefit anyone by knowing this.

Like I didn't see THIS coming.......

Ahhhh sophiamarie,

Now you weren't one of the many that had the "rake" out that last time some did not agree with how I handled that one, were you? Glad to see you remembered how I handled a similar thing the last time. I am many things and 1 of them is I always try to be consistent, and how I handled this is the same as the last one, and the one before that and the one before that.

No need for anyone to have a crystal ball to peer into with anything similar to this thread or my reply. In some things I have "rules" in other parts of my life I have "standards" and anyone that knows me well, either in cyber-space or in real life, will tell you it makes no difference who or what you are, my same rules and standards apply to best friends/associates and cyber-friends. The exception, maybe? That would be my wife.

Sorry, I wasn't in on that chapter of the book and I hope you kept a copy of that thread. I would be interested to know what it was all about. It's not hard to see how you handle things, because they always end the same way. You are good at throwing out a lot of mis-information and then when someone asks you to be a bit more specific, you decide that it would be in their best interest not to know.

At least it looks like I'm not the only one who has your number.

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hckynut — Mon, 09 Jun 2014 22:50:33 GMT

On 6/9/2014 sophiamarie said:
On 6/9/2014 hckynut said:
On 6/9/2014 sophiamarie said:

hckynut(john) said:<br />

I got raked pretty bad some time back when I had a "near death" experience from a certain procedure. Everyone wanted to know what it was but there again I did not see how it would benefit anyone by knowing this.

Like I didn't see THIS coming.......

Ahhhh sophiamarie,

Now you weren't one of the many that had the "rake" out that last time some did not agree with how I handled that one, were you? Glad to see you remembered how I handled a similar thing the last time. I am many things and 1 of them is I always try to be consistent, and how I handled this is the same as the last one, and the one before that and the one before that.

No need for anyone to have a crystal ball to peer into with anything similar to this thread or my reply. In some things I have "rules" in other parts of my life I have "standards" and anyone that knows me well, either in cyber-space or in real life, will tell you it makes no difference who or what you are, my same rules and standards apply to best friends/associates and cyber-friends. The exception, maybe? That would be my wife.

Sorry, I wasn't in on that chapter of the book and I hope you kept a copy of that thread. I would be interested to know what it was all about. It's not hard to see how you handle things, because they always end the same way. You are good at throwing out a lot of mis-information and then when someone asks you to be a bit more specific, you decide that it would be in their best interest not to know.

At least it looks like I'm not the only one who has your number.

Think what you will about me I have no reason to go on the defensive with you or anyone else about my decisions. Mis-information? Interesting indeed.

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serenity4ever — Tue, 10 Jun 2014 00:59:17 GMT

On 6/9/2014 Ford1224 said:
Why am I not understanding this conversation?

Hi Ford. John posted on another thread about his tacycardia.He found in an old book a method to alleviate it. Now he won't share the method because he doesn't want anyone harmed. I often suffer from sinus tacycardia a method of using very cold water and eating ice in addition to pressing on the pulse point on the neck was recommended for me. Only a cardiologist familiar with an individual patient can recommend the procedure. A rapid heart rate can be the beginning of a heart attack, so only a physician can tell a person whether this should be used by an individual.

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SaltAirBreeze — Tue, 10 Jun 2014 01:14:17 GMT

Hckynut,

I tried clicking on your username to bring up your profile and all I got was a listing of your previous posts. No matter what I tried I could not bring up your profile. In any event, if the method you used was somewhat like that of serenity4ever, I would would not be willing to do that.

Thank you for trying to help.

Salty

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hckynut — Tue, 10 Jun 2014 05:33:17 GMT

On 6/9/2014 SaltAirBreeze said:
Hckynut,

I tried clicking on your username to bring up your profile and all I got was a listing of your previous posts. No matter what I tried I could not bring up your profile. In any event, if the method you used was somewhat like that of serenity4ever, I would would not be willing to do that.

Thank you for trying to help.

Salty

Salty,

Looks like when they updated the BB they won't let someone else access "my profile" where I have had several e-mail addresses over the years I have been here. Will see if I still have a gmail or yahoo alternate account and if so I will put it into this specific post. That is if you still want to e-mail me.

E.T.A----here it is if you want it. not sure you can click and go on this. if not use any e-mail account you want to get it to me.

jjmrangers@gmail.com

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hope-Q — Tue, 10 Jun 2014 05:54:48 GMT

Hi John.

You are so smart and very wise not to divulge too much or any information if you think it might cause problems to any poster. I understand exactly what you are and aren't saying and I certainly would take the same position. Good for you !

Still praying that you and Cindy both are improving, and the "babies" are all doing well.

Take care my friend.