topic Re: Jardience for Heart failure in Wellness

Jardience for Heart failure

Patriot3 — Tue, 05 Sep 2023 12:52:26 GMT

Anyone taking Jardience for heart failure? My PA put me on this. Haven't picked up the script yet and am pondering whether I want to take it. It is used for this besides for diabetics.

Have read of the side effects and don't like the sound of them.

Re: Jardience for Heart failure

jlkz — Tue, 05 Sep 2023 13:07:15 GMT

@Patriot3

I hope you are under the care of a cardiologist if you have been diagnosed with heart failure. When DH was having this problem, he only saw the doctor. When things were well underway and he was out of harm's way, then a PA would do follow ups....they never prescribed medications.

Re: Jardience for Heart failure

conlt — Tue, 05 Sep 2023 13:30:09 GMT

I take Synardy for diabetes. Synjardy is the same as Jardiance but it also have Metformin in it. I have been on it a year and have not had a side effect.

I would take it, the studies on this medication show a great improvement in heart failure.

Re: Jardience for Heart failure

depglass — Tue, 05 Sep 2023 13:32:20 GMT

No opinion on Jardience. My thought is all side effects will not be experienced by one person. It is a general composite list reported by subjects in trials. And there might be the rare person who experiences none.

Re: Jardience for Heart failure

123SuzyQ123 — Tue, 05 Sep 2023 13:32:38 GMT

I have been on Jardience for 3 months now. I can't say if it is the one helping me, because I am on 3 other meds as well, so any of them could be the one that is helping me. Or maybe the combination of all 4 of them that is helping! I have not had any side effects yet and I feel much better than when I went into the hospital with very rapid heartbeat 3 months ago.

I am under the care of a Cardiologist, he came to see me in the ER and has stuck with me since then.

One more point about Jardience, it is very expensive and if your insurance doesn't pay part of it, could be a problem.

Re: Jardience for Heart failure

phoenixbrd — Tue, 05 Sep 2023 13:53:00 GMT

@Patriot3 I understand you asking others' for their opinion of this drug. Because everyone has a unique situation, it might not be relevant for you. Important that you are researching the side effects. Even with the best doctor, this decision and your health is in your hands. I wish you the very best of health and recovery for your current situation.😘

Re: Jardience for Heart failure

Patriot3 — Tue, 05 Sep 2023 14:02:39 GMT

Thanks everyone for your opinions. They are appreciated. I know everyone's reaction is different to scripts, but it is still helpful.

I am under the care of a cardiologist. However, I only see NPs or PAs. I haven't seen the doctor for a couple of years. I was just recently diagnosed w/failure. It is so hard to get an appt. w/the doc.

Re: Jardience for Heart failure

GabbyAnn — Tue, 05 Sep 2023 13:59:15 GMT

I have no personal experience with Jardiance, but my mother did to take it to control her diabeties and it worked great for a while.

Then it was one UTI after another, anitbiotics and more antibiotics. She ended up in the hospital twice in two months with sepsis. They told her UTIs were a side effect of Jardiance.

I'm sure a lot of people take Jardiance with no problems, but when I hear anyone taking it I just like to say if UTIs start being a problem, ask if it could be a side effect of the medicine. I'd hate for anyone to go through what she did for months. Of course, all meds have side effects and everyone is different. I wish you the best!

Re: Jardience for Heart failure

Patriot3 — Tue, 05 Sep 2023 14:09:01 GMT

@GabbyAnn wrote:
I have no personal experience with Jardiance, but my mother did to take it to control her diabeties and it worked great for a while.

Then it was one UTI after another, anitbiotics and more antibiotics. She ended up in the hospital twice in two months with sepsis. They told her UTIs were a side effect of Jardiance.

I'm sure a lot of people take Jardiance with no problems, but when I hear anyone taking it I just like to say if UTIs start being a problem, ask if it could be a side effect of the medicine. I'd hate for anyone to go through what she did for months. Of course, all meds have side effects and everyone is different. I wish you the best!

@GabbyAnn Thank you for your best wishes. That's one of the side effects, besides genital yeast infections. And I wonder what it will do to my BP which is running low anyway due to the diuretic.

I am so sorry about your Mother! What a terrible thing to go thru when you're older, as I am. Sometimes the cure is worse than the problem. Then I throw up my hands and say just let nature take it's course!!

Re: Jardience for Heart failure

spumoni99 — Tue, 05 Sep 2023 14:36:04 GMT

@Patriot3 wrote:
Thanks everyone for your opinions. They are appreciated. I know everyone's reaction is different to scripts, but it is still helpful.

I am under the care of a cardiologist. However, I only see NPs or PAs. I haven't seen the doctor for a couple of years. I was just recently diagnosed w/failure. It is so hard to get an appt. w/the doc.

Do you have any way of at least sending a message to the doctor? With that new diagnosis I would think you would take priority. My mother was diagnosed this was years ago but she died a week later, I did take her to the doctor but in hindsight he really didn't do anything for her, she had recently been put on celebrex for arthritis. I know people live yeaars with heart failure it just scares me with my experience, she was only 71.

Re: Jardience for Heart failure

Patriot3 — Tue, 05 Sep 2023 16:01:34 GMT

@spumoni99 wrote:
@Patriot3 wrote:
Thanks everyone for your opinions. They are appreciated. I know everyone's reaction is different to scripts, but it is still helpful.

I am under the care of a cardiologist. However, I only see NPs or PAs. I haven't seen the doctor for a couple of years. I was just recently diagnosed w/failure. It is so hard to get an appt. w/the doc.

Do you have any way of at least sending a message to the doctor? With that new diagnosis I would think you would take priority. My mother was diagnosed this was years ago but she died a week later, I did take her to the doctor but in hindsight he really didn't do anything for her, she had recently been put on celebrex for arthritis. I know people live yeaars with heart failure it just scares me with my experience, she was only 71.

@spumoni99 I'm so sorry about your Mother. That is just too young! Your suggestion is a good one.......never thought of that......thanks!

Re: Jardience for Heart failure

BlueFinch — Tue, 05 Sep 2023 16:03:57 GMT

The FDA has approved Jardience for the treatment of heart failure. Every single medication we take can have side effects, including non prescription meds and supplements.

Jardience is not unique in having lots of reported side effects. In fact, a lot of even older medications have Black Box warnings for the number of reported issues, but they're still prescribed. I'd love to never have to take a single medication, EVER, but take a couple that I must.

I totally get that you're feeling anxious about filling this script. But you have to remember, that meds that cause problems for some, can be life saving for others. We just always need to be alert to our body's messages, and speak up, if we notice unusual symptoms.

You're going into this educating yourself about the medication. Many people don't do this. They just take whatever is prescribed, with little knowledge of what negative symptoms to look out for. Your approach will help you make wise decisions.

Re: Jardience for Heart failure

Toppers3 — Tue, 05 Sep 2023 17:25:25 GMT

@Patriot3 wrote:
Thanks everyone for your opinions. They are appreciated. I know everyone's reaction is different to scripts, but it is still helpful.

I am under the care of a cardiologist. However, I only see NPs or PAs. I haven't seen the doctor for a couple of years. I was just recently diagnosed w/failure. It is so hard to get an appt. w/the doc.

Our primary care doctor wanted me to try it, because I'm a Type 2 diabetic and it can help with weight loss and appetite suppression.

I gave it a try and I had too many negative side-effects that were not worth staying on it, for me.

I was very nauseated from it to the point where I was worried about getting sick at any time, and it really killed my appetite, plus it was affecting my sugar in too much of a negative way.

My PCP did warn me about the possible problems with urinary tract infections, if someone is prone to them, which I am, too.

Re: Jardience for Heart failure

spumoni99 — Tue, 05 Sep 2023 21:03:50 GMT

@Patriot3 wrote:
@spumoni99 wrote:
@Patriot3 wrote:
Thanks everyone for your opinions. They are appreciated. I know everyone's reaction is different to scripts, but it is still helpful.

I am under the care of a cardiologist. However, I only see NPs or PAs. I haven't seen the doctor for a couple of years. I was just recently diagnosed w/failure. It is so hard to get an appt. w/the doc.

Do you have any way of at least sending a message to the doctor? With that new diagnosis I would think you would take priority. My mother was diagnosed this was years ago but she died a week later, I did take her to the doctor but in hindsight he really didn't do anything for her, she had recently been put on celebrex for arthritis. I know people live yeaars with heart failure it just scares me with my experience, she was only 71.
@spumoni99 I'm so sorry about your Mother. That is just too young! Your suggestion is a good one.......never thought of that......thanks!

Thank you, this was 23 years ago so I am sure there is a lot more that can be done now, her doctor took her off of the celebrex thinking that was the culprit. She had a lot of medical problems with arthritis all her life, hips and knees all replaced, lifetime of pain killers probably didn't help.

Re: Jardience for Heart failure

itsmetoo — Wed, 06 Sep 2023 22:01:35 GMT

@Patriot3

I have been taking Jardiance for about 9 months or more now for heart failure. So far I have had only one UTI but that was at the beginning. As someone already mentioned, it's a very expensive drug. I'm on Medicare with a Part D plan and now that I'm in the donut hole I'm paying about $160 a month, out of pocket, for just this med. With no insurance it's about $700+. It's just one of the many meds for heart failure that I take. Sometimes I think the meds just make me feel worse than the heart failure does.

Re: Jardience for Heart failure

conlt — Thu, 07 Sep 2023 12:17:58 GMT

@itsmetoo I am in the donut hole now too and pay about $160 for the Synjardy. I will be happy when the donut hole thing chages in 2025.

Re: Jardience for Heart failure

itsmetoo — Sat, 09 Sep 2023 21:55:16 GMT

@conlt wrote:
@itsmetoo I am in the donut hole now too and pay about $160 for the Synjardy. I will be happy when the donut hole thing chages in 2025.

@conlt Eliquis is another drug I take that is also about $154 every month. Fortunately my other meds aren't as expensive. What is going to change about the donut hole in 2025? Or are you talking about the 10 drugs who prices will then be negiotable then?

Re: Jardience for Heart failure

conlt — Sun, 10 Sep 2023 01:03:22 GMT

@itsmetoo I copied and pasted this from the Center for Retirement Research Boston College.

Medicare’s donut hole is the bane of existence for retirees with expensive medications.

They will get substantial relief in 2025, when the Inflation Reduction Act, last week, will cap all retirees’ annual drug copayments at $2,000. Monthly drug plan premiums are not included in this cap.

The cap will effectively eliminate the donut hole that currently requires retirees to pay 25 percent of the cost of their prescription drugs until they reach a threshold amount. The threshold increases every year and hit $7,050 this year.

Re: Jardience for Heart failure

itsmetoo — Sun, 10 Sep 2023 01:04:32 GMT

@conlt wrote:
@itsmetoo I copied and pasted this from the Center for Retirement Research Boston College.
Medicare’s donut hole is the bane of existence for retirees with expensive medications.
They will get substantial relief in 2025, when the Inflation Reduction Act, last week, will cap all retirees’ annual drug copayments at $2,000. Monthly drug plan premiums are not included in this cap.
The cap will effectively eliminate the donut hole that currently requires retirees to pay 25 percent of the cost of their prescription drugs until they reach a threshold amount. The threshold increases every year and hit $7,050 this year.

@conltThanks for the information! I think I recall hearing about that quite awhile ago. Now let's just hope we all live until 2025 when it goes into effect without going bankrupt from the price of all these meds first!