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QUESTION ABOUT BERBERINE

tends2dogs — Sat, 25 Feb 2023 15:04:49 GMT

I am looking to purchase this for my DH and DD. Oregon Grape keeps coming up. Is it the same thing? I think I understand that berberine is in oregon grape, but is that the only and best source?

@SilleeMee Can you guide me to a brand or source that you recommend?

TIA

Re: QUESTION ABOUT BERBERINE

SilleeMee — Sat, 25 Feb 2023 16:35:59 GMT

@tends2dogs wrote:
I am looking to purchase this for my DH and DD. Oregon Grape keeps coming up. Is it the same thing? I think I understand that berberine is in oregon grape, but is that the only and best source?

@SilleeMee Can you guide me to a brand or source that you recommend?

TIA

@tends2dogs

Yes. Oregon grape is also called barberry where the root of the plant is used to extract berberine.

I suggest looking for 500mg caps with no fillers added (cinnamon mostly). You can start looking on Amazon for 'berberine no fillers'. From there you can find a variety of them. For myself I have been taking PipingRock's berberine but I'm looking to change to a filler-free supp. Not sure which one though.

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SilleeMee — Sat, 25 Feb 2023 18:08:46 GMT

Oregon grape (barberry or scientific name Berberis) is not the only source for berberine. One other popular source is from the goldenseal plant (scientific name Hydrastis). Both species of plants have roots which can be used to extract the medicinal berberine. It's the root of the plant that contains the most berberine. Stems/bark contain some and the berries and leaves contain very little.

Just to be clear...

Berberine is a substance which comes out of a plant. Berberine supps don't contain plant parts but the supps contain extracted berberine from the plant parts, roots in this case, whichever those plants might be (Oregon grape, goldenseal or other). It's not like you are eating plant roots when you take a berberine supp. You're ingesting an extracted substance from the roots which is a pure and concentrated form of the active ingredient berberine.

Re: QUESTION ABOUT BERBERINE

meem120 — Sat, 25 Feb 2023 17:23:13 GMT

Try Andrew Lessman oh HSN

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tends2dogs — Sat, 25 Feb 2023 18:14:52 GMT

Thanks for all the info, @SilleeMee . I will check out Amazon.

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tends2dogs — Sat, 25 Feb 2023 18:15:37 GMT

@meem120 I will compare his to what I find on Amazon. Thanks for heads up.

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SilleeMee — Sat, 25 Feb 2023 18:22:04 GMT

@tends2dogs

AL's berberine is 250mg caps. Dosage should be around 1000 to 1500mg per day (divided into two or three doses, 500mg per meal). Do the math.

Re: QUESTION ABOUT BERBERINE

tends2dogs — Sat, 25 Feb 2023 18:36:03 GMT

@SilleeMee I see that Andrew Lessman's has magnesium oxide and vitamin c added. His comes from the barberry bark.

Is this what you meant about no additives?

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tends2dogs — Sat, 25 Feb 2023 18:44:24 GMT

@SilleeMee I found a PURE ORIGINALS brand on A. 1440 mg. for 3 capsules. From the root and has no fillers - lab tested. It is 12.99 for 100 caps so about a one month supply.

Lessman is $21 for 60 and $55 for 180, but his has the magnesium and vitamin c.

The Amazon one looks like a much better price.

Re: QUESTION ABOUT BERBERINE

SilleeMee — Sat, 25 Feb 2023 18:48:21 GMT

@tends2dogs wrote:
@SilleeMee I see that Andrew Lessman's has magnesium oxide and vitamin c added. His comes from the barberry bark.

Is this what you meant about no additives?

@tends2dogs

Yes. Some additives are beneficial. Small amounts of vitamin C are often added to enhance absorption. The magnesium in AL's could have an effect on glucose management. Neither are necessary but are there as added benefits you might find in other supps you take.

Re: QUESTION ABOUT BERBERINE

cantdrive55 — Sat, 25 Feb 2023 18:50:41 GMT

This is what I'm taking. The site is at the top of the photo.

@SilleeMee if this meets your needs, it would make my day!

Re: QUESTION ABOUT BERBERINE

SilleeMee — Sat, 25 Feb 2023 18:50:50 GMT

@tends2dogs wrote:
@SilleeMee I found a PURE ORIGINALS brand on A. 1440 mg. for 3 capsules. From the root and has no fillers - lab tested. It is 12.99 for 100 caps so about a one month supply.

Lessman is $21 for 60 and $55 for 180, but his has the magnesium and vitamin c.

The Amazon one looks like a much better price.

@tends2dogs

The PURE ORIGINALS brand was what I had in mind also. To me it has what I am looking for and the price is attractive.

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SilleeMee — Sat, 25 Feb 2023 19:00:16 GMT

@cantdrive55 wrote:
This is what I'm taking. The site is at the top of the photo.
@SilleeMee if this meets your needs, it would make my day!

@cantdrive55

Looks good! A bit more than I want to pay but I like the simple ingredients. The added leucine is suppose to stimulate insulin production.

Re: QUESTION ABOUT BERBERINE

tends2dogs — Sun, 26 Feb 2023 14:41:56 GMT

@SilleeMee A couple more quick questions, if you don't mind....

Is Berberine HCI different than just berberine? I couldn't get a satisfactory answer when I googled it.

Also, what are your thoughts about pulsing with this product. Some sites I read said to take for 8 weeks and then go off for 2 weeks due to elevated liver counts.

I wonder if the posters on here that were told by their cardiologists to take this were also told to pulse it???

Re: QUESTION ABOUT BERBERINE

SilleeMee — Sun, 26 Feb 2023 15:55:27 GMT

@tends2dogs wrote:
@SilleeMee A couple more quick questions, if you don't mind....

Is Berberine HCI different than just berberine? I couldn't get a satisfactory answer when I googled it.

Also, what are your thoughts about pulsing with this product. Some sites I read said to take for 8 weeks and then go off for 2 weeks due to elevated liver counts.

I wonder if the posters on here that were told by their cardiologists to take this were also told to pulse it???

@tends2dogs

Berberine HCL is the same thing as berberine.

Liver injury or elevated liver enzymes are not associated with taking berberine so pulse dosing is irrelevant in regards to that. However, since berberine is a mild antibiotic, it can alter the normal flora of the gut. In those cases sometimes users will experience diarrhea, constipation or both which are reported mild side effects. With that in mind be aware of your bowel movements and if you need to adjust the duration of dosing then you can do that. For instance, I usually take normal doses (3 per day) for 7 days straight and then for the next 7 days I only take it once daily. If I go over that amount then I get constipated. Everyone is different so you will have to do the trial and error thing and see how your body reacts. Most people's normal flora can recover within 3 to 5 days after mild disruptions in diet (taking berberine included). So since diets vary so will your dosing times.

The NIH has published many articles about berberine. They report dosage as being 500 to 1500mg per day. Amounts larger than that should not be taken unless recommended by a health professional.

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tends2dogs — Sun, 26 Feb 2023 18:02:58 GMT

Thanks so much for the additional info, @SilleeMee .

I was telling my sister about your recommendation of berberine because of your experience etc. She asked me, what is her website called? LOL I had to explain to her how I have come to "know" you.

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SilleeMee — Sun, 26 Feb 2023 18:20:09 GMT

LOL!

You're welcome @tends2dogs

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Icegoddess — Sun, 26 Feb 2023 18:35:03 GMT

I thought the addition of cinnamon was supposed to be a good thing.

My main issue is with how many pills you have to take a day. I have trouble swallowing capsules to start with, and this doesn't look like something I would want to remove from the capsule to add to food. Plus, I wouldn't be eating something I might want to sprinkle two or three times/day.

I just recently finished a course of antibiotics following a root canal and the darned things got hung up on my uvula a couple of times. And I kept forgetting the midday dose as I never take medicine midday. I can only remember in the morning and at breakfast when I can add to my yogurt and before bed.

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PilatesLover — Mon, 27 Feb 2023 18:46:42 GMT

May I butt in to inquire, what is the berberine supposed to be good for?

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goldensrbest — Mon, 27 Feb 2023 20:51:02 GMT

I thought people take this because of glucose levels.