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Strontium for Bone Density

granddi — Wed, 01 Feb 2023 00:05:47 GMT

This is from Dr Weil I did not put it in a link but it is easly referenced.

The drug you no doubt read about is strontium ranelate, a combination of the mineral strontium with ranelic acid. It has been licensed for sale in the UK and elsewhere in Europe for treatment of osteoporosis in postmenopausal women. A number of studies have shown that it can strengthen bone and reduce the risk of fractures, even among women 74 years of age or older when risks are highest. Use of strontium ranelate to strengthen bone and prevent fractures has been escalating since the positive results of a three-year clinical trial were published in the January 29, 2004 issue of the New England Journal of Medicine. In that study, researchers in Europe and Australia randomly assigned 1,649 women age 50 and older who had at least one vertebral fracture due to osteoporosis to take calcium plus vitamin D and two grams of strontium ranelate or just calcium and vitamin D without the drug. The women who took the supplements and the drug had fewer new vertebral fractures and increased bone mineral density of the spine and hip to a greater degree than the women who took only the supplements. In fact, the supplement group actually showed a loss of bone mineral density. Since then at least one other study has shown that strontium ranelate reduces the risk of non-vertebral fractures, including hip fractures.

In Britain, the recommended dose is two grams daily taken at bedtime, at least two hours after eating (any type of food) or drinking (any liquid other than water), both of which can affect absorption.

Strontium ranelate is not yet approved by the FDA for treatment or prevention of osteoporosis in the United States. It remains under study.

Re: Strontium for Bone Density

Shelbelle — Wed, 01 Feb 2023 00:19:22 GMT

I dont know a thing about this drug but I know I take Dr Weils words as gospel!!!

Re: Strontium for Bone Density

FLtricia — Wed, 01 Feb 2023 00:44:41 GMT

I just checked on Amazon and they have several Strontium products for bone strength, but no strontium ranelate. I would love to find something that helps bone density other than Boniva-type products. My mother had spontaneous fracture of her femur while taking bizphosphinate (sp?) prescription. I know of two others with the same issue.

Re: Strontium for Bone Density

SilleeMee — Wed, 01 Feb 2023 01:25:56 GMT

Strontium and calcium are metals. Strontium reacts with calcium receptors in the formation of collagen to make bone tissue strong. However, strontium is not involved in making new bone tissue but it makes it stronger by strengthening the bonds between silica and collagen.

Strontium is heavier than calcium so when strontium is incorporated into bone tissue it only appears to increase bone density when in fact no new bone tissue has formed.

Re: Strontium for Bone Density

on the bay — Wed, 01 Feb 2023 01:31:08 GMT

@granddi,

Thanks to you posting this I just read a long article re Strontium. There are 3 kinds-

natural strontium in the form of strontium citrate

strontium ranelate, a lab created strontium

strontium-90 ( a radioactive strontium not related or used for humans).

The strontium ranelate was never approved in the US and Canada due to concerns about the toxitity of the ranelate. Also why it is not FDA approved.Women were having heart attacks and blood clots and other severe side effects while on the ranelate form.It has been used in Europe but is now recommended not to use it for osteoporosis.

Some clinical studies say strontium citrate has shown lots of promise in preventing and building bone along with vit d and calcium (but not too much calcium which was reported to cause heart problems in women long ago).

However other studies believe that there are false dexa improvements from the strontium saying it does not actually increase bone density, and that calcium is still the best supplement for bone health.

So what to believe? I don't know.

Many of my doctors of course have wanted to prescribe any of the drugs like boniva, reclast etc all of which I have tried with awful effects, or no improvement in dexa scans.

I remember taking strontium at one time and don't know why I stopped.

But thank you for mentioning this @granddi! I like that strontium citrate is reported not to have side effects in patients who were in the clinical trials as well as no fractures. I've tried all the rx's for osteoporosis except prolia. My mother took prolia as well as boniva and had several fractures while taking each.

So anything aside from these is a welcome thing.

What does anyone think about all this?

I used to read Dr Weil all the time but some things he says seem outdated to me or not accurate.

Re: Strontium for Bone Density

kitpach — Wed, 01 Feb 2023 01:33:10 GMT

Check out Ipriflavone . I take this and so does my brother , we both have reversed our bone loss. Sold at health food websites. Also acts like viagra for women ,an added benefit.

Re: Strontium for Bone Density

on the bay — Wed, 01 Feb 2023 02:30:10 GMT

That is wonderful that you both have reversed your bone loss @kitpach.

I read that there is concern that ipriflavone may lower the white bood cell count especially with those with weak immune systems. It is so hard to know what is best, especially with so many supplements out there.

Re: Strontium for Bone Density

granddi — Wed, 01 Feb 2023 02:33:45 GMT

@kitpach wrote:
Check out Ipriflavone . I take this and so does my brother , we both have reversed our bone loss. Sold at health food websites. Also acts like viagra for women ,an added benefit.

From the National Womens Health Network

A study was conducted to determine if Ipriflavone was a safe and effective way to prevent postmenopausal bone loss. The study involved 474 women ages 45 to 75 years old with lower than normal bone mineral densities (BMD). Some participants were given 600 mg of Ipriflavone each day, while others were given a placebo. Every participant received a 500 mg calcium supplement each day. The study found that Ipriflavone does not prevent bone loss. It also found that there are some risks associated with Ipriflavone use. Some women taking Ipriflavone developed lymphocytopenia, which is a disorder marked by low levels of lymphocytes. Lymphocytes are a type of white blood cell associated with immune health. Based on this information, it might be best to explore alternative methods to prevent osteoporosis.

I'm at the high range of osteopenia and will check out other reports on ipriflavone.

@SilleeMee I'm wondering then, if after taking strontium, and bone densitity shows improvement, this is in fact a false positive?Why would it be approved in UK/Europe?

Re: Strontium for Bone Density

SilleeMee — Wed, 01 Feb 2023 02:35:02 GMT

I take (bamboo) silica extract powder. It has made my bone density normal and it used to be in the osteoporosis end of the the scale. I've recommended silica supps here for quite some time b/c it works and it's safe.

Re: Strontium for Bone Density

SilleeMee — Wed, 01 Feb 2023 02:39:12 GMT

@granddi wrote:

@SilleeMee I'm wondering then, if after taking strontium, and bone densitity shows improvement, this is in fact a false positive?Why would it be approved in UK/Europe?

@granddi

False positive...it appears that way to me according to what I've read.

I don't know why it's approved in the UK / Europe.

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dollgal — Wed, 01 Feb 2023 04:37:12 GMT

Hi Sillemee- What is the brand of silica you use? I have started taking Vital Proteins collagen but I guess that is different than your bamboo silicon? I am in the high range of osteopenia and need to do something. Thanks!

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on the bay — Wed, 01 Feb 2023 12:21:44 GMT

Re strontium again, reading further, some report that strontium may increase bone density but make bones more brittle. Maybe this is also why so many on the rx drugs for osteoporosis have femur fractures and others.

This is why I usually end up taking nothing! So discouraging. One says something, another says something else.

Re: Strontium for Bone Density

Love to Run — Wed, 01 Feb 2023 12:48:52 GMT

Strength training is a great way to protect bone density.

Re: Strontium for Bone Density

SilleeMee — Wed, 01 Feb 2023 13:40:36 GMT

@dollgal wrote:
Hi Sillemee- What is the brand of silica you use? I have started taking Vital Proteins collagen but I guess that is different than your bamboo silicon? I am in the high range of osteopenia and need to do something. Thanks!

@dollgal

I buy my bamboo silica extract powder from Amazon, this one:

Micro Ingredients Organic Bamboo Extract Powder

Silica is not the same thing as collagen but it is a substance needed to make collagen into bones.

Re: Strontium for Bone Density

chrystaltree — Wed, 01 Feb 2023 13:55:30 GMT

Never heard of this but Weil is acknowledged quack.

Re: Strontium for Bone Density

on the bay — Wed, 01 Feb 2023 14:13:42 GMT

For everyone taking calcium supplements and/or along with vit d or without, please read about the dangers of strokes, hardening of artieries, heart attacks etc etc for women taking calcium supplements.

This was reported years ago so I don't know why calcium is still the most recommended supplement for bone strength.

I think a lot of these manufacturers just keep producing all these supplements and hoping people won't read up on the effects, meanwhile making millions, or more money off of unsuspecting people.

I used to have books on herbs, supplements, homeopathic etc later realizing that each "natural" supplement or herb, etc also can have detrimental effects.

So please read up on things before taking. The ads and reviews and people's recommendations are not true for everyone and sometimes no one.

The same with prescription medicine that doctors routinely prescribe. Some drs are knowledgable and careful especially when prescribing for the elderly but some are not. Some are familiar with supplements, herbs etc but so many are not.

So as much as we can read and advocate for ourselves, that is the best we can do even though there is so much conflicting info it is hard to know what is true. It is good to read the reliable medical info rather than any site.

Re: Strontium for Bone Density

Shelbelle — Wed, 01 Feb 2023 15:53:56 GMT

I take calcium for the last 20 years and at 70 my bone density remains in a normal range, I also take KAL silica tablets, mainly for my hair.

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tsavorite — Wed, 01 Feb 2023 17:58:09 GMT

@Shelbelle wrote:
I take calcium for the last 20 years and at 70 my bone density remains in a normal range, I also take KAL silica tablets, mainly for my hair.

@Shelbelle May I ask how much calcium per day? I was told yrs ago to take 1200mg's but stopped due to the information posted about it calcifying the arteries. Now I only take 400mg's to 600mg's max per day broken up with my 3 meals. Also my diet has calcium so I add that in trying to hit my total of 1200mg's between food and supplements.

I have osteopenia and am trying all that I can to keep it at least from progressing over time. I do take silica to daily. This year I will have a bone DEXA to see how things are looking. Hoping for the best.

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Effie54 — Wed, 01 Feb 2023 18:02:19 GMT

@FLtricia wrote:
I just checked on Amazon and they have several Strontium products for bone strength, but no strontium ranelate. I would love to find something that helps bone density other than Boniva-type products. My mother had spontaneous fracture of her femur while taking bizphosphinate (sp?) prescription. I know of two others with the same issue.

I refuse to take any drug for osteoporosis. Two dentists said they would not work on any patient who took drugs for osteoporosis, due to the necrosis of the jaw....not to forget about spontaneous fractures.

Re: Strontium for Bone Density

nambee — Wed, 01 Feb 2023 18:47:09 GMT

About 10 years ago my doctor told me to take a supplemental called Bone Density by Pure Synergy. It has Vit D, calcium, K-1 (needed to keep calcium going to bones and not arteries), magnesium, strontium and silica as well as other asorited minerals and plant extracts. It's not cheap but easier than taking a variety of individual supplements and I think the proportion of minerals, etc are designed to work together.