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Statins and CoQ10

Susic — Mon, 11 Jul 2022 12:25:57 GMT

I have tried several different Statin drugs, and added 100mg Coq10 to offset side effects without much luck. After about a month I gradually start feeling so listless that I can barely move . Then I stop statins and feel fine. Never happens when I don't take statins.. Just had labs done and lipids are all abnormal again. See PCMD Friday, but was wondering if anyone had similar experience and what statin and dose of Coq10 you have had less trouble with. Does upping coq10 to 200 help much? I am amazed. Such a small pill causes so much trouble. Even every other day doesn't help. Thanks in advance. Susi.

Re: Statins and CoQ10

Icegoddess — Mon, 11 Jul 2022 12:54:36 GMT

I don't think CoQ10 targets the side effects. It's just that statins cause you to make less of it and your body needs it, so you're just sorta replenishing your supply. I was actually taking CoQ10 prior to going on a statin although the doctor did recommend taking it with the statin. I swear that supplement got me out of the Periodontist's chair, so I'm a big fan. But, it was no help with statin side effects. Crestor made me feel like a 90-year old woman with awful body aches. I took a break from it, but my cholesterol numbers went up, so he put me on Simvastatin and I haven't had any side effects from that.

Hopefully, your doctor can find you a statin that doesn't give you bad side effects or some other drug. I had a friend once who was on something else besides a statin for his cholesterol. Don't remember what it was though.

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wagirl — Mon, 11 Jul 2022 13:54:10 GMT

No-- CQ10 doesn't help with the statin side effects but icegoddess was right about needing to replace it. I cannot take any statins due to bad S/E. Will be seeing my dr next month to re vamp my treatment plan.

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millieshops — Mon, 11 Jul 2022 14:05:34 GMT

I've been on Simvastatin for so many years that I don't know how many. No problems yet, also no CoQ10 yet.

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SeaMaiden — Mon, 11 Jul 2022 14:22:00 GMT

statins also cause type 2 diabetes.... so they fix one problem and start another... I will never take them and do what I can naturally... too many side effects from pharmacuticals...just listen to the ads on TV,,, at the end of the pharmacutical drug ads they talk really fast and low about all the side effects including DEATH.... just death... thats all!

Potential risks and side effects

Muscle damage. Statins can cause muscle pains, especially in high doses. ...
Liver damage. Liver damage is another possible serious side effect of statin therapy. ...
Increased risk of diabetes. Statins may also cause the glucose (sugar) levels in your blood to rise. ...
Confusion or memory problems. If you have these side effects, talk to your doctor. ...

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Icegoddess — Mon, 11 Jul 2022 14:09:36 GMT

@SeaMaiden wrote:
statins also cause type 2 diabetes.... so they fix one problem and start another... I will never take them and do what I can naturally... too many side effects from pharmacuticals...just listen to the ads on TV,,, at the end of the pharmacutical drug adds they talk really fast and low about all the side effects including DEATH.... just death... thats all!

Maybe they do; maybe they don't. All I know is I have been on a statin several years now and my PCP mentioned at my last physical that he did not see diabetes in my future from looking at my bloodwork over the same timeframe. My father was diabetic.

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CelticCrafter — Mon, 11 Jul 2022 15:51:18 GMT

@SeaMaiden wrote:
statins also cause type 2 diabetes.... so they fix one problem and start another... I will never take them and do what I can naturally... too many side effects from pharmacuticals...just listen to the ads on TV,,, at the end of the pharmacutical drug ads they talk really fast and low about all the side effects including DEATH.... just death... thats all!

Potential risks and side effects
Muscle damage. Statins can cause muscle pains, especially in high doses. ...
Liver damage. Liver damage is another possible serious side effect of statin therapy. ...
Increased risk of diabetes. Statins may also cause the glucose (sugar) levels in your blood to rise. ...
Confusion or memory problems. If you have these side effects, talk to your doctor. ...

I wonder what happens if a person is already diabetic.

My husband was diagnosed with Type 2 and in the same blood work his LDL was slightly, barely elevated and she wanted him to take a statin.

He decided not to take it and his endocrinologist agreed with him.

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proudlyfromNJ — Mon, 11 Jul 2022 15:57:12 GMT

Well guess I will be dying soon. Have taken statins for about ten years.

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Trinity11 — Mon, 11 Jul 2022 17:08:29 GMT

@CelticCrafter wrote:
@SeaMaiden wrote:
statins also cause type 2 diabetes.... so they fix one problem and start another... I will never take them and do what I can naturally... too many side effects from pharmacuticals...just listen to the ads on TV,,, at the end of the pharmacutical drug ads they talk really fast and low about all the side effects including DEATH.... just death... thats all!

Potential risks and side effects
Muscle damage. Statins can cause muscle pains, especially in high doses. ...
Liver damage. Liver damage is another possible serious side effect of statin therapy. ...
Increased risk of diabetes. Statins may also cause the glucose (sugar) levels in your blood to rise. ...
Confusion or memory problems. If you have these side effects, talk to your doctor. ...
I wonder what happens if a person is already diabetic.
My husband was diagnosed with Type 2 and in the same blood work his LDL was slightly, barely elevated and she wanted him to take a statin.
He decided not to take it and his endocrinologist agreed with him.

@CelticCrafter I have Type 1 diabetes and refused statins for years. That is until I had a massive heart attack with subsequent heart failure and another followed eleven months later. So far over 5 years later with 10mg of atorvastatin all is well.

I think statins do raise blood sugars but minimally. Cut the sugar and fewer carbohydrates and I have seen no real difference.

Re: Statins and CoQ10

Icegoddess — Mon, 11 Jul 2022 16:29:30 GMT

What we have to remember is the definition of the word "potential".

Re: Statins and CoQ10

Susic — Mon, 11 Jul 2022 16:35:25 GMT

Thank you all for taking time to help! I know, all drugs have scarey side effects, and sometimes they seem worse than disease. My fear is having a stroke. I will give them another shot with increasing Coq10 in case that helps a little. I already feel pokey with Metoprolol, not happy about another med that zaps my energy! Not sure if we tried Simvastin, will check with PCMD this week. Thanks again.

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Effie54 — Mon, 11 Jul 2022 16:59:46 GMT

@SeaMaiden wrote:
statins also cause type 2 diabetes.... so they fix one problem and start another... I will never take them and do what I can naturally... too many side effects from pharmacuticals...just listen to the ads on TV,,, at the end of the pharmacutical drug ads they talk really fast and low about all the side effects including DEATH.... just death... thats all!

Potential risks and side effects
Muscle damage. Statins can cause muscle pains, especially in high doses. ...
Liver damage. Liver damage is another possible serious side effect of statin therapy. ...
Increased risk of diabetes. Statins may also cause the glucose (sugar) levels in your blood to rise. ...
Confusion or memory problems. If you have these side effects, talk to your doctor. ...

My thoughts exactly. Doctors are so programmed to go by numbers, they dish out pills like they'recandy, just to get the lab numbers and check. What patients don't realize is the possible side effects, and type 2 diabetes is one side effect of taking a statin. I myself would rather walk 4 miles a day, and work out on a Peleton then take a statin ever. I'm not a pharmaceutical lover. I think the doctors push way too many pills for people who really don't need them. Instead of getting to the root problem, they put a pill on top of it to mask the insufficient lab numbers.

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zitawins — Mon, 11 Jul 2022 17:08:57 GMT

I couldn't tolerate any of those statins, so my doctor prescribed EZETIMIBE 10 mg. According to my last tests, this is working fine. No side effects, either. I also take COQ because my son suggested it. He's up on all those additional medications. Swear he should have been a doctor instead of an IT executive!

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Trinity11 — Mon, 11 Jul 2022 17:11:57 GMT

@Effie54 wrote:
@SeaMaiden wrote:
statins also cause type 2 diabetes.... so they fix one problem and start another... I will never take them and do what I can naturally... too many side effects from pharmacuticals...just listen to the ads on TV,,, at the end of the pharmacutical drug ads they talk really fast and low about all the side effects including DEATH.... just death... thats all!

Potential risks and side effects
Muscle damage. Statins can cause muscle pains, especially in high doses. ...
Liver damage. Liver damage is another possible serious side effect of statin therapy. ...
Increased risk of diabetes. Statins may also cause the glucose (sugar) levels in your blood to rise. ...
Confusion or memory problems. If you have these side effects, talk to your doctor. ...
My thoughts exactly. Doctors are so programmed to go by numbers, they dish out pills like they'recandy, just to get the lab numbers and check. What patients don't realize is the possible side effects, and type 2 diabetes is one side effect of taking a statin. I myself would rather walk 4 miles a day, and work out on a Peleton then take a statin ever. I'm not a pharmaceutical lover. I think the doctors push way too many pills for people who really don't need them. Instead of getting to the root problem, they put a pill on top of it to mask the insufficient lab numbers.

I walked five miles a day and was literally in the gym 5 times a week @Effie54 . I have always been slender but my cholesterol was high from heredity. I gave up meat and ate a low cholesterol diet. No sugar too.

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KathyM23 — Mon, 11 Jul 2022 17:23:00 GMT

I was put on a statin about a year ago. No problem until a few months ago when my liver numbers started going up. Dose was decreased by half. Liver numbers still up and increased further so I was taken off the statin. Will have another blood test in a month or so to see if my liver numbers have come down - sure hope so. Also hope cholesteral hasn't increased too much. One fix causes another problem with meds it seems.

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on the bay — Mon, 11 Jul 2022 18:41:29 GMT

I take garlic or ginger supplements.

Used to take red yeast rice but it can have similar side effects to statins.

I have hereditary high cholesterol too and lowered my cholesterol by 30 points with garlice capsules.

I also eat mostly a plant based diet.

I had one of my favorite primary care doctors tell me he had high cholesterol but he would never take statins nor give them to his family.

I agree that doctors routinely prescribe the standard meds without much regard to many side effects.

I realize thought that sometimes risks have to be weighed as to what is the best treatments for each individual.

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portugal — Mon, 11 Jul 2022 18:27:44 GMT

Honestly I wish doctors were more apt to educate patients on diet and how people don't realize how much sugar we intake daily including high carb diet impacts ones cholestrol numbers and cause such infalamation more than anything.

we should all educate ourselves on our own health, unfortunetly the medical industry pushes these meds instead because that is where the money is.

There are many studies connecting the high use of statins with Dementia/Alzeimers disease. It seems we all know someone with this awful disease.

In my opinion it's worth a lifestyle change in how and what we eat and exercise.

Of course I believe there are instances where maybe one has no other possible alternative. But please research and be healthy

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SilleeMee — Mon, 11 Jul 2022 20:05:56 GMT

Berberine can help reduce the side effects of statins and berberine might take the place of statins altogether. It works that way.

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FatCatinCT — Mon, 11 Jul 2022 20:14:39 GMT

the body needs cholesterol! This statin business is big pharma bs. Only one out of 100 people will be saved from a heart attack from taking a statin. If you've previously had a heart attack it is perhaps worth taking though.

My cholesterol is always over 250 and some times 300. I have medical issues that will cause i higher level and my dr is fine with that.

If worried, you can do a CT scan for cardiac score, it scans the major artories for blockage and after decades of high cholesterol levels, my cardiac score was zero! It is an out of pocket test, cost me $99 but sure saved all the darn side effects. Yes I do take Ubiquinol daily.

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Trinity11 — Mon, 11 Jul 2022 20:17:52 GMT

@FatCatinCT wrote:
the body needs cholesterol! This statin business is big pharma bs. Only one out of 100 people will be saved from a heart attack from taking a statin. If you've previously had a heart attack it is perhaps worth taking though.
My cholesterol is always over 250 and some times 300. I have medical issues that will cause i higher level and my dr is fine with that.
If worried, you can do a CT scan for cardiac score, it scans the major artories for blockage and after decades of high cholesterol levels, my cardiac score was zero! It is an out of pocket test, cost me $99 but sure saved all the darn side effects. Yes I do take Ubiquinol daily.

Yes, sadly, the week before I had a major heart attack @FatCatinCT , I had a 0 cardiac score on a CT scan as well.😳