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The Magic Pill...

Susan Louise — Fri, 09 Jul 2021 01:05:52 GMT

Another great documentary film on the keto/low carb lifestyle...

It was a Netflix documentary from 2017...and currently available to watch for FREE on Roku.

For those who still choose to not believe this is a healthier way of eating...

For those who still chose not to watch the near 2 hr Fat Head educational documentary video...

Everything I have been trying to share about DH and my journey living this lifestyle since Sept 2018 to help others is actually encapsulated in 2 minutes...inspirational...brilliant!

We will never go back to the conventional lifestyle again...ever. We couldn't be healthier now.

Google the following to see a 2 minute trailer...

THE MAGIC PILL | Official Trailer HD

Re: The Magic Pill...

JeanLouiseFinch — Thu, 08 Jul 2021 23:53:02 GMT

Excellent documentary! When we first decided to try keto, it was my umteenth attempt at weight loss (many years ago I lost a bunch on fen phen, put it all back on plus more) . A couple of months into keto, I heard about The Magic Pill. We watched it and were convinced that it needed to be our permanent lifestyle. A little over two years later, we're still living and loving healthy keto, and so glad we made the decision.

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GinzTonic — Thu, 08 Jul 2021 23:59:55 GMT

I have seen the Magic Pill , great doc. Clean strick keto here for 3 years . Never felt better . It's crazy what sugar, carbs & the standard American diet does to a body .

Re: The Magic Pill...

JeanLouiseFinch — Fri, 09 Jul 2021 00:11:20 GMT

@GinzTonic wrote:
I have seen the Magic Pill , great doc. Clean strick keto here for 3 years . Never felt better . It's crazy what sugar, carbs & the standard American diet does to a body .

@GinzTonic SAD is indeed sad.

Re: The Magic Pill...

mom2four0418 — Fri, 09 Jul 2021 00:13:08 GMT

The Magic Pill was created by Australian Celebrity chef Pete Evans. For more on this person, Google Peter Daryl Evans.

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Susan Louise — Fri, 09 Jul 2021 00:27:52 GMT

@GinzTonic wrote:
I have seen the Magic Pill , great doc. Clean strick keto here for 3 years . Never felt better . It's crazy what sugar, carbs & the standard American diet does to a body .

@GinzTonic And quite miraculous how one's body heals/improves once the sugars/carbs/trans fats are removed and healthy fats are added...coconut, avacado & olive oils, butter, beef tallo and bacon grease.

Re: The Magic Pill...

hckynut — Fri, 09 Jul 2021 00:27:23 GMT

@JeanLouiseFinch

Unless one is grossly overweight, why do so many people here equate loss with being healthier? I see nothing about blood workups/measured physical fitness testing results or genetics mentioned.

I see a lot of "I/we feel healthier now", but very little than how one feels. Many avoid doctors and life saving procedures because they "feel good". Unfortunately, feeling good is not the best indicator of life threatening health issues.

Many also equate good health(or feeling good) with being physically fit, and physically fit with being healthy. They are 2 completely different things, when it comes to the human body and brain.

I have yet to see age numbers by @Susan Louise and DH/length of feeling so good/any mention of physical fitness, much less how it was attained, and maintained.

As I said in my several other posts there is no 1 magic anything, that will effect everyone the same. No such thing as "A Magic Pill", as you have called it. And the title of this thread: "The Magic Pill"?

Another poster comes to mind when reading the way @Susan Louise posts. Her was was the only way to get healthy/stay healthy(nothing about the importance of physical fitness)/it even cured diseases. Will that be next on these threads?

I have had my own beliefs on health and physical fitness going back to the late 1960. Unless someone asks me "specific questions", I offered nothing about what I ate or how I trained for physical fitness. I still seldom stray from it.

hckynut

Re: The Magic Pill...

Susan Louise — Fri, 09 Jul 2021 00:58:34 GMT

@hckynut I don't know what else to say to you John unless you change your mind and watch the videos. There are lots of slender folks who eat a poor diet of high carbs sugars/trans fats and don't gain weight who have heart/blood pressure/high blood sugar and other health issues.

In the Fat Head video I tried to have others watch, a Dr stated that the hardest folks to convince they have to change their diet because of their health issues are actually those who don't gain weight! The slender folks think they are doing it right...

example...skim milk and cereal or toast.

It is the high glycemic index that makes that a poor diet...has more sugar than a snickers bar. Skim milk eliminates good fat one's brain needs.

Just an example of why that video is called Fat Head.

We were spoon fed by the gov/pharma about 50 yrs ago to live a low fat diet. DH and I believe the gov/pharma til Sept 2018 when we changed to a low carb/keto lifestyle.

Poof! Our fat started to melt off, I take no meds, DH takes about 75% less meds, our brains aren't in a fog anymore and we feel like we are in our 30's/40's.

If we didn't become insulin resistant from eating all those carbs/sugars/trans fat that the gov/pharma spoonfed us for decades with that USDA upside-down food pyramid, we would have not gained all this weight.

Some folks gain weight being insulin resistant like we did. Others don't, but still get high blood sugar. Most folks when they are slim don't bother to get their blood sugar checked until there is a serious health issue developed when their body gives out.

I've mentioned many times DH has gone to the Dr to get a check-up...blood levels checked since he has been diagnosed as a type 2 diabetic. I was pre-diabetic. We both now have normal blood sugar levels and DH is off of both of his diabetic meds.

What else can I say?

All of this info is included in the videos. Again, there is nothing more I can say if you don't watch the videos.

I keep thinking of an old saying my Grandpa used to tell me...

"You can lead a horse to water..."

Lets just agree to disagree.

Re: The Magic Pill...

Janey2 — Fri, 09 Jul 2021 00:36:40 GMT

@hckynut Well said!

Re: The Magic Pill...

mom2four0418 — Fri, 09 Jul 2021 00:48:45 GMT

@hckynut wrote:
@JeanLouiseFinch

Unless one is grossly overweight, why do so many people here equate loss with being healthier? I see nothing about blood workups/measured physical fitness testing results or genetics mentioned.

I see a lot of "I/we feel healthier now", but very little than how one feels. Many avoid doctors and life saving procedures because they "feel good". Unfortunately, feeling good is not the best indicator of life threatening health issues.

Many also equate good health(or feeling good) with being physically fit, and physically fit with being healthy. They are 2 completely different things, when it comes to the human body and brain.

I have yet to see age numbers by @Susan Louise and DH/length of feeling so good/any mention of physical fitness, much less how it was attained, and maintained.

As I said in my several other posts there is no 1 magic anything, that will effect everyone the same. No such thing as "A Magic Pill", as you have called it. And the title of this thread: "The Magic Pill"?

Another poster comes to mind when reading the way @Susan Louise posts. Her was was the only way to get healthy/stay healthy(nothing about the importance of physical fitness)/it even cured diseases. Will that be next on these threads?

I have had my own beliefs on health and physical fitness going back to the late 1960. Unless someone asks me "specific questions", I offered nothing about what I ate or how I trained for physical fitness. I still seldom stray from it.

hckynut

That poster is the same one that I have been thinking about as well. She has not posted in a long time. I hope that she is well.

Re: The Magic Pill...

Susan Louise — Fri, 09 Jul 2021 00:55:08 GMT

@mom2four0418 wrote:
@hckynut wrote:
@JeanLouiseFinch

Unless one is grossly overweight, why do so many people here equate loss with being healthier? I see nothing about blood workups/measured physical fitness testing results or genetics mentioned.

I see a lot of "I/we feel healthier now", but very little than how one feels. Many avoid doctors and life saving procedures because they "feel good". Unfortunately, feeling good is not the best indicator of life threatening health issues.

Many also equate good health(or feeling good) with being physically fit, and physically fit with being healthy. They are 2 completely different things, when it comes to the human body and brain.

I have yet to see age numbers by @Susan Louise and DH/length of feeling so good/any mention of physical fitness, much less how it was attained, and maintained.

As I said in my several other posts there is no 1 magic anything, that will effect everyone the same. No such thing as "A Magic Pill", as you have called it. And the title of this thread: "The Magic Pill"?

Another poster comes to mind when reading the way @Susan Louise posts. Her was was the only way to get healthy/stay healthy(nothing about the importance of physical fitness)/it even cured diseases. Will that be next on these threads?

I have had my own beliefs on health and physical fitness going back to the late 1960. Unless someone asks me "specific questions", I offered nothing about what I ate or how I trained for physical fitness. I still seldom stray from it.

hckynut
That poster is the same one that I have been thinking about as well. She has not posted in a long time. I hope that she is well.

@mom2four0418 Are you referring to @JeanLouiseFinch ? She posted a few times in this thread already.

Re: The Magic Pill...

Icegoddess — Fri, 09 Jul 2021 01:02:15 GMT

@mom2four0418 wrote:
@hckynut wrote:
@JeanLouiseFinch

Unless one is grossly overweight, why do so many people here equate loss with being healthier? I see nothing about blood workups/measured physical fitness testing results or genetics mentioned.

I see a lot of "I/we feel healthier now", but very little than how one feels. Many avoid doctors and life saving procedures because they "feel good". Unfortunately, feeling good is not the best indicator of life threatening health issues.

Many also equate good health(or feeling good) with being physically fit, and physically fit with being healthy. They are 2 completely different things, when it comes to the human body and brain.

I have yet to see age numbers by @Susan Louise and DH/length of feeling so good/any mention of physical fitness, much less how it was attained, and maintained.

As I said in my several other posts there is no 1 magic anything, that will effect everyone the same. No such thing as "A Magic Pill", as you have called it. And the title of this thread: "The Magic Pill"?

Another poster comes to mind when reading the way @Susan Louise posts. Her was was the only way to get healthy/stay healthy(nothing about the importance of physical fitness)/it even cured diseases. Will that be next on these threads?

I have had my own beliefs on health and physical fitness going back to the late 1960. Unless someone asks me "specific questions", I offered nothing about what I ate or how I trained for physical fitness. I still seldom stray from it.

hckynut
That poster is the same one that I have been thinking about as well. She has not posted in a long time. I hope that she is well.

@hckynut I really don't understand the desire to try and convince everybody that there is only one way to Nirvana, whatever that might be, to the point of becoming obnoxious. Put it out there ONCE for everyone and let them decide what to do with it. They apparently think that if they continually beat us over the head with it we will eventually change our ways.

I did a moderate low carb for awhile. Keto is just too extreme for me. My doctor is a proponent of Keto, but even he hasn't been able to stay on it from the looks of it. Regardless, I get a physical every year and he is very happy with my stats. Tells me to keep doing what I'm doing since that apparently keeps me from needing him very often. So, that's what I'm doing, what works for me. Considering my family history, feel pretty lucky.

Re: The Magic Pill...

mom2four0418 — Fri, 09 Jul 2021 01:07:59 GMT

@Susan Louise wrote:
@mom2four0418 wrote:
@hckynut wrote:
@JeanLouiseFinch

Unless one is grossly overweight, why do so many people here equate loss with being healthier? I see nothing about blood workups/measured physical fitness testing results or genetics mentioned.

I see a lot of "I/we feel healthier now", but very little than how one feels. Many avoid doctors and life saving procedures because they "feel good". Unfortunately, feeling good is not the best indicator of life threatening health issues.

Many also equate good health(or feeling good) with being physically fit, and physically fit with being healthy. They are 2 completely different things, when it comes to the human body and brain.

I have yet to see age numbers by @Susan Louise and DH/length of feeling so good/any mention of physical fitness, much less how it was attained, and maintained.

As I said in my several other posts there is no 1 magic anything, that will effect everyone the same. No such thing as "A Magic Pill", as you have called it. And the title of this thread: "The Magic Pill"?

Another poster comes to mind when reading the way @Susan Louise posts. Her was was the only way to get healthy/stay healthy(nothing about the importance of physical fitness)/it even cured diseases. Will that be next on these threads?

I have had my own beliefs on health and physical fitness going back to the late 1960. Unless someone asks me "specific questions", I offered nothing about what I ate or how I trained for physical fitness. I still seldom stray from it.

hckynut
That poster is the same one that I have been thinking about as well. She has not posted in a long time. I hope that she is well.
@Susan Louise

Please read my comment again.

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on the bay — Fri, 09 Jul 2021 01:11:40 GMT

Was it sidsmom who always posted about this same "diet' or way of eating? She hasn't posted in over a year, unless she came back as someone else.

I can't see how bacon grease could possibly be good for esp high cholesterol.

"Each ounce of bacon contributes 30 milligrams of cholesterol (not to mention the cholesterol from the eggs that often accompany bacon. Eating foods rich in saturated fats can raise your cholesterol levels, increasing your risk of heart disease and stroke".(from Google) but everyone probably knows this already!

Re: The Magic Pill...

Susan Louise — Fri, 09 Jul 2021 01:12:54 GMT

@JeanLouiseFinch wrote:
Excellent documentary! When we first decided to try keto, it was my umteenth attempt at weight loss (many years ago I lost a bunch on fen phen, put it all back on plus more) . A couple of months into keto, I heard about The Magic Pill. We watched it and were convinced that it needed to be our permanent lifestyle. A little over two years later, we're still living and loving healthy keto, and so glad we made the decision.

@JeanLouiseFinch and @GinzTonic

It looks like the three of us all started within a year of each other. You both saw 'The Magic Pill' documentary way before DH & I did. We happened to just stumble across it today...weird...LOL

I can't figure that out with all the research we have been doing and living this lifestyle for 3 years. Better late than never.

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tansy — Fri, 09 Jul 2021 01:17:10 GMT

I am a proponent of LCHF, although I don't add extra fat to my food. My diabetes has improved remarkably. My endocrinologist is thrilled with my numbers. I have lost weight but more importantly I am maintaining that weight loss without difficulty. However, I am no longer harping on my way of life to anyone who doesn't ask.

The poster being referred to was sid's mom, a whole plant foods advocate. It became more than tiresome.

ETA: I have an eating "window" which helps control my body's insulin and my hunger.

Re: The Magic Pill...

JeanLouiseFinch — Fri, 09 Jul 2021 11:35:08 GMT

@hckynut wrote:
@JeanLouiseFinch

Unless one is grossly overweight, why do so many people here equate loss with being healthier? I see nothing about blood workups/measured physical fitness testing results or genetics mentioned.

I see a lot of "I/we feel healthier now", but very little than how one feels. Many avoid doctors and life saving procedures because they "feel good". Unfortunately, feeling good is not the best indicator of life threatening health issues.

Many also equate good health(or feeling good) with being physically fit, and physically fit with being healthy. They are 2 completely different things, when it comes to the human body and brain.

I have yet to see age numbers by @Susan Louise and DH/length of feeling so good/any mention of physical fitness, much less how it was attained, and maintained.

As I said in my several other posts there is no 1 magic anything, that will effect everyone the same. No such thing as "A Magic Pill", as you have called it. And the title of this thread: "The Magic Pill"?

Another poster comes to mind when reading the way @Susan Louise posts. Her was was the only way to get healthy/stay healthy(nothing about the importance of physical fitness)/it even cured diseases. Will that be next on these threads?

I have had my own beliefs on health and physical fitness going back to the late 1960. Unless someone asks me "specific questions", I offered nothing about what I ate or how I trained for physical fitness. I still seldom stray from it.

hckynut

@hckynut Being overweight and having a diet rich in refined carbs and grains, rather than nutrient dense, clean foods and healthy fats can be an underlying and/or contributing cause of many health issues. For starters, a fatty liver, insulin resistance, diabetes, cancers, cognitive decline,

I see my NP annually and get my blood tested. She is thrilled with my success. But let's get down and dirty and have a look at my existence for the majority of my adult life - poor food choices, a growing girth, setting a terrible example for our children, being an embarrassment for them (peers can be mean), difficulty walking any long distances, unable to get down and roughhouse with my kids, needing a seatbelt extender on an airplane, needing to hold onto a railing to pull myself up a flight of stairs, being unable to cross my legs, having constant ankle and feet swelling, sore knees, poor sleep (apnea) and waking up as tired as I was when I went to bed, a diagnosis of borderline pre diabetes, high blood pressure, I could go on. For more than a year, I was at the health club 4x a week, trying to lose weight in advance of one of our kids' wedding. It did nothing to improve my situation. Today, besides the loss of 141 pounds I've experienced thru keto and daily meaningful, intentional intermittent fasting, I've also experienced numerous non-scale victories. I no longer have sleep apnea, I sleep well and wake up rested, my A1C is now normal, insulin resistance is reversed, fatty liver is corrected, no more edema, I'm bouncing up the stairs with ease, I can walk blocks and blocks without huffing and puffing or needing to stop to rest, I can sit with my legs comfortably crossed, I can wrap a bath towel around my body and have a lot left to tuck in, my cognition/focus is better, blood pressure meds have been reduced to a minimal dosage and my cardiologist believes I will come off it altogether when I lose just a couple more pounds (so probably at my next appointment)

What many people fail to understand about keto, is that it's more than a weight loss tool. It's understanding how our body was intended to operate. Access to refined carbs and processed foods dramatically increased with the Industrial Revolution. It can't be a mere coincidence that dementia and Alzheimer's just happened to increase in the same time frame.

Also something else you may not realize is that many cardiologists and other MD's actually recommend a ketogenic diet to their patients. It is not a fad diet, it's been around since the 1920's and was originally developed for children with epilepsy because healthy fats are so good for the brain. That in itself has been a very persuasive point for me.

Re: The Magic Pill...

JeanLouiseFinch — Fri, 09 Jul 2021 01:35:28 GMT

@mom2four0418 wrote:
@hckynut wrote:
@JeanLouiseFinch

Unless one is grossly overweight, why do so many people here equate loss with being healthier? I see nothing about blood workups/measured physical fitness testing results or genetics mentioned.

I see a lot of "I/we feel healthier now", but very little than how one feels. Many avoid doctors and life saving procedures because they "feel good". Unfortunately, feeling good is not the best indicator of life threatening health issues.

Many also equate good health(or feeling good) with being physically fit, and physically fit with being healthy. They are 2 completely different things, when it comes to the human body and brain.

I have yet to see age numbers by @Susan Louise and DH/length of feeling so good/any mention of physical fitness, much less how it was attained, and maintained.

As I said in my several other posts there is no 1 magic anything, that will effect everyone the same. No such thing as "A Magic Pill", as you have called it. And the title of this thread: "The Magic Pill"?

Another poster comes to mind when reading the way @Susan Louise posts. Her was was the only way to get healthy/stay healthy(nothing about the importance of physical fitness)/it even cured diseases. Will that be next on these threads?

I have had my own beliefs on health and physical fitness going back to the late 1960. Unless someone asks me "specific questions", I offered nothing about what I ate or how I trained for physical fitness. I still seldom stray from it.

hckynut
That poster is the same one that I have been thinking about as well. She has not posted in a long time. I hope that she is well.

@mom2four0418 What are you talking about? She started this thread and one yesterday.

Re: The Magic Pill...

mom2four0418 — Fri, 09 Jul 2021 01:33:09 GMT

@JeanLouiseFinch wrote:
@mom2four0418 wrote:
@hckynut wrote:
@JeanLouiseFinch

Unless one is grossly overweight, why do so many people here equate loss with being healthier? I see nothing about blood workups/measured physical fitness testing results or genetics mentioned.

I see a lot of "I/we feel healthier now", but very little than how one feels. Many avoid doctors and life saving procedures because they "feel good". Unfortunately, feeling good is not the best indicator of life threatening health issues.

Many also equate good health(or feeling good) with being physically fit, and physically fit with being healthy. They are 2 completely different things, when it comes to the human body and brain.

I have yet to see age numbers by @Susan Louise and DH/length of feeling so good/any mention of physical fitness, much less how it was attained, and maintained.

As I said in my several other posts there is no 1 magic anything, that will effect everyone the same. No such thing as "A Magic Pill", as you have called it. And the title of this thread: "The Magic Pill"?

Another poster comes to mind when reading the way @Susan Louise posts. Her was was the only way to get healthy/stay healthy(nothing about the importance of physical fitness)/it even cured diseases. Will that be next on these threads?

I have had my own beliefs on health and physical fitness going back to the late 1960. Unless someone asks me "specific questions", I offered nothing about what I ate or how I trained for physical fitness. I still seldom stray from it.

hckynut
That poster is the same one that I have been thinking about as well. She has not posted in a long time. I hope that she is well.
@mom2four0418 What are you talking about? She stared this thread and one yesterday.

@JeanLouiseFinch What are you talking about?

Re: The Magic Pill...

qbetzforreal — Fri, 09 Jul 2021 01:53:00 GMT

@mom2four0418 wrote:
@JeanLouiseFinch wrote:
@mom2four0418 wrote:
@hckynut wrote:
@JeanLouiseFinch

Unless one is grossly overweight, why do so many people here equate loss with being healthier? I see nothing about blood workups/measured physical fitness testing results or genetics mentioned.

I see a lot of "I/we feel healthier now", but very little than how one feels. Many avoid doctors and life saving procedures because they "feel good". Unfortunately, feeling good is not the best indicator of life threatening health issues.

Many also equate good health(or feeling good) with being physically fit, and physically fit with being healthy. They are 2 completely different things, when it comes to the human body and brain.

I have yet to see age numbers by @Susan Louise and DH/length of feeling so good/any mention of physical fitness, much less how it was attained, and maintained.

As I said in my several other posts there is no 1 magic anything, that will effect everyone the same. No such thing as "A Magic Pill", as you have called it. And the title of this thread: "The Magic Pill"?

Another poster comes to mind when reading the way @Susan Louise posts. Her was was the only way to get healthy/stay healthy(nothing about the importance of physical fitness)/it even cured diseases. Will that be next on these threads?

I have had my own beliefs on health and physical fitness going back to the late 1960. Unless someone asks me "specific questions", I offered nothing about what I ate or how I trained for physical fitness. I still seldom stray from it.

hckynut
That poster is the same one that I have been thinking about as well. She has not posted in a long time. I hope that she is well.
@mom2four0418 What are you talking about? She stared this thread and one yesterday.
@JeanLouiseFinch What are you talking about?

@mom2four0418- I know the poster you and John are referring to, she hasn't around since the beginning of the pandemic.