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Anti-Inflammatory

Deree — Wed, 24 Feb 2021 20:28:12 GMT

Had my first appointment with a Functional Medicine Nurse today. She prescribed Turmero Active. Anyone take it or familiar with it?

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ALRATIBA — Wed, 24 Feb 2021 20:35:11 GMT

@Deree

I never heard of functional medicine - so I googled it.

From Wiki ....

Functional medicine is a form of alternative medicine that encompasses a number of unproven and disproven methods and treatments.[1][2][3] Its proponents claim that it focuses on the "root causes" of diseases based on interactions between the environment and the gastrointestinal, endocrine, and immune systems to develop "individualized treatment plans"[4] It has been described as pseudoscience,[5] quackery,[6] and at its essence a rebranding of complementary and alternative medicine.[6]

In the United States, functional medicine practices have been ruled ineligible for course credits by the American Academy of Family Physicians because of concerns they may be harmful.[7][8]

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Deree — Thu, 25 Feb 2021 18:57:29 GMT

@ALRATIBA I appreciate your googling that for me. Yes, FMDs and FMNs get to the root cause of disease and illness as opposed to traditional docs who simply pull out the prescription pad to treat patients' symptoms with toxic drugs without bothering to investigate the cause.

I have been familiar with FMDs and FMNs for a long time and personally know many people whose lives have been changed by them rather than the ignorance and quackery by too many traditional docs. I would not have even entertained seeing an FMN without understanding what I was getting into. Thanks.

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gabstoomuch — Wed, 24 Feb 2021 21:40:17 GMT

Good for you for finding a functional Dr. They are quickly over taking the "pill for ill" doctors.

There is a ton of information about tumeric and all the health benefits online. Has been used for hundreds of years in other cultures. Inflammation is a serious problem when it gets to the point where your whole body is inflamed. But it is just a symptom, something is causing it. Root cause can be found by reducing the inflammation

Have not seen tumeric active, but if your functional Dr recommended it then it is probably in the right form. Tumeric needs a fat/lipid co-factor to be absorbed. I take liposmal tumero (just means it goes right into bloodstream instead of digestional tract).

I LOVE functional, integrative>= (doctors who practice both ways, eastern and western medicine). Big pharma is doing everything they possibly can to shut these functional doctors down. Can't make millions of dollars off healthy people, right? I don't know of any insurance company that will pay for functional doctors but paying out of pocket is worth every penny if you find a good functional doctor.

Full body medicine makes so much more sense than "my finger hurts, here is a band-aid" medicine.

The United States is the most unhealthy country in the world. SUGAR is a huge culprit. Sugar causes lots of inflammation, along with other foods.

There will always be room for different doctors, but big pharma is not happy with the ones that can make you feel better by changing diet and lifestyle.

Regular doctors will still be needed for surgery etc. They just don't play well with others

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tends2dogs — Wed, 24 Feb 2021 21:41:45 GMT

@Deree wrote:
@ALRATIBA I appreciate your googling that for me. Yes, FMDs and FMNs get to the root cause of disease and illness rather than traditional docs simply pulling out the prescription pad with toxic drugs for patients to treat symptoms without bothering to investigate the cause.

I have been familiar with FMDs and FMNs for a long time and personally know many people whose lives have been changed by them rather than the ignorance and quackery by too many traditional docs. I would not have even entertained seeing an FMN without understanding what I was getting into. Thanks.

Bravo, @Deree ! Traditional medicine doesn't care about the root of the problem, the reason why. They want to treat the symptoms and then that opens up another host of problems because of the side effects. I hope you can get to the root of your problem and find a remedy for it. That is another reason people don't look into alternative. They want a pill to fix everything. It may have taken years to manifest and they want it fixed right away. It doesn't work that way in the natural realm. All the best.

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gabstoomuch — Wed, 24 Feb 2021 21:43:46 GMT

@ALRATIBAThat wiki description is so wrong, and a perfect example of why big pharma is trying to discredit functional medicine. Functional doctors are more educated and understanding of how each body system interacts with other body systems than an MD. Really sad they let a paragraph like stay online and mislead so many people.

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tends2dogs — Wed, 24 Feb 2021 21:44:29 GMT

I forgot to mention that a see a functional doctor and my dog's vet is one, too.

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Judaline — Wed, 24 Feb 2021 21:45:20 GMT

@Deree wrote:
@ALRATIBA I appreciate your googling that for me. Yes, FMDs and FMNs get to the root cause of disease and illness rather than traditional docs simply pulling out the prescription pad with toxic drugs for patients to treat symptoms without bothering to investigate the cause.

I have been familiar with FMDs and FMNs for a long time and personally know many people whose lives have been changed by them rather than the ignorance and quackery by too many traditional docs. I would not have even entertained seeing an FMN without understanding what I was getting into. Thanks.

I am pretty sure they are not covered by insurance.

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tends2dogs — Wed, 24 Feb 2021 21:56:00 GMT

@Judaline wrote:
@Deree wrote:
@ALRATIBA I appreciate your googling that for me. Yes, FMDs and FMNs get to the root cause of disease and illness rather than traditional docs simply pulling out the prescription pad with toxic drugs for patients to treat symptoms without bothering to investigate the cause.

I have been familiar with FMDs and FMNs for a long time and personally know many people whose lives have been changed by them rather than the ignorance and quackery by too many traditional docs. I would not have even entertained seeing an FMN without understanding what I was getting into. Thanks.
I am pretty sure they are not covered by insurance.

Mine isn't. My Medicare picks up some of my physical, but I have always paid out of pocket. That includes my yearly Thermogram and a bone scan when I get them.

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Trinity11 — Wed, 24 Feb 2021 22:11:38 GMT

@tends2dogs wrote:
@Deree wrote:
@ALRATIBA I appreciate your googling that for me. Yes, FMDs and FMNs get to the root cause of disease and illness rather than traditional docs simply pulling out the prescription pad with toxic drugs for patients to treat symptoms without bothering to investigate the cause.

I have been familiar with FMDs and FMNs for a long time and personally know many people whose lives have been changed by them rather than the ignorance and quackery by too many traditional docs. I would not have even entertained seeing an FMN without understanding what I was getting into. Thanks.
Bravo, @Deree ! Traditional medicine doesn't care about the root of the problem, the reason why. They want to treat the symptoms and then that opens up another host of problems because of the side effects. I hope you can get to the root of your problem and find a remedy for it. That is another reason people don't look into alternative. They want a pill to fix everything. It may have taken years to manifest and they want it fixed right away. It doesn't work that way in the natural realm. All the best.

That only applies to certain conditions. Getting to the root of the problem for a Type 1 diabetic? Without insulin you die. Get chest pain and you need drugs until you get in the cath lab. Cancer? The drugs are lifesaving and no functional medicine doc is going to cure you. My good friend died using one of these doctors and precious time was lost. By the time she got conventional care, the cancer had spread and precious time was lost..

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Deree — Thu, 25 Feb 2021 14:06:57 GMT

@gabstoomuch Appreciate it! I know the benefits of turmeric + black pepper. I was just interested in this particular formulation which is supposed to be more than what you buy in a jar from the supermarket. I also preliminarily found some concerning info which I have yet to investigate further. It's important to me as I'm particularly sensitive to many things including foods and supps.

@Judaline You are correct. The bulk of it isn't covered by insurance the same as naturopaths and holistic doctors aren't. However, there are some ways you can get blood tests for example okayed by your PCP so that it is covered.

@Trinity11 Of course there is an important place for drugs like insulin etc. An FMD doesn't discount those. They're not about quackery or hocus pocus methods. They're only about doing what's best for the patient; that is, finding the cause of symptoms instead of merely covering up those symptoms.

ETA: @Trinity11 So sorry I missed the second part of your post as my dog had to go out. I am sorry about your friend.

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SilleeMee — Thu, 25 Feb 2021 00:21:19 GMT

I just took a look at the ingredients (on Amazon). Looks like one serving size contains only 420mg of the extract. Most beneficial amounts are somewhere close to 1500mg per day of the extract. In that case it appears to be a rather costly way to get your extract. There are other (more affordable) options. Other than Turmero being a liquid, I don't see anything special about it.

ETA - That Turmero has the extract as opposed to just turmeric. It's the extract which makes that product a good one, however, expensive for what it offers.

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Icegoddess — Thu, 25 Feb 2021 05:40:03 GMT

While I have never felt the need for a Functional medicine doctor I know they are a God-send for some people. I have a friend who goes to one and my daughter even went to one for awhile and he/she seemed to be the only doctor who would actually listen to her.

As far as turmeric, I have read that it can have blood thinning properties. My husband takes it and I have no idea why. He couldn't even tell the nurse why he was taking it prior to a surgery on his broken nose. He has been getting big blood bruises on his hands and other parts of his body, but he refuses to listen to me and continues to take it. It would be simple enough to stop taking it for a period of time to see if he stopped getting the bruises, but what do I know?

Of course, I also suggested he start using CeraVe for his thin skin and he bought some and used it ONCE and proclaimed it didn't work, so I have been using it on my arms.

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tends2dogs — Thu, 25 Feb 2021 13:27:12 GMT

@Trinity11 wrote:
@tends2dogs wrote:
@Deree wrote:
@ALRATIBA I appreciate your googling that for me. Yes, FMDs and FMNs get to the root cause of disease and illness rather than traditional docs simply pulling out the prescription pad with toxic drugs for patients to treat symptoms without bothering to investigate the cause.

I have been familiar with FMDs and FMNs for a long time and personally know many people whose lives have been changed by them rather than the ignorance and quackery by too many traditional docs. I would not have even entertained seeing an FMN without understanding what I was getting into. Thanks.
Bravo, @Deree ! Traditional medicine doesn't care about the root of the problem, the reason why. They want to treat the symptoms and then that opens up another host of problems because of the side effects. I hope you can get to the root of your problem and find a remedy for it. That is another reason people don't look into alternative. They want a pill to fix everything. It may have taken years to manifest and they want it fixed right away. It doesn't work that way in the natural realm. All the best.
That only applies to certain conditions. Getting to the root of the problem for a Type 1 diabetic? Without insulin you die. Get chest pain and you need drugs until you get in the cath lab. Cancer? The drugs are lifesaving and no functional medicine doc is going to cure you. My good friend died using one of these doctors and precious time was lost. By the time she got conventional care, the cancer had spread and precious time was lost..

I agree with your comments, @Trinity11 . If I was having heart issues or cancer I would seek out conventional medicine. The alternative methods would compliment their treatments or if used during your lifetime, it may help prevent or prolong you getting such disease. My husband went through 10 years of cancer and ultimately had a bone marrow transplant. Along with conventional chemo we used alternative means to make things more comfortable and to build the body up during rough treatments. There is a place for both and to not take advantage of all that is offered, people lose out on getting the best they can for themselves.

One other comment, my husband saw several oncologists during the course of his cancer journey. Not one of them took a history as to how he may have gotten this diagnosis. He had a blood cancer similar to leukemia. It was like - okay you have this, this is the protocol set up by the drug company. They would never sway from the dosage. It was all set up by the drug company who developed the drug.

I am sorry about your friend, @Trinity11 . Cancer is not kind and to lose a friend is a heartache for sure.

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Jaspersmom — Thu, 25 Feb 2021 15:36:51 GMT

Many medications prescribed by traditional doctors are lifesaving and necessary. Alternative medicine can in some instances be integrated with traditional medical care, but a person has to know who and what they're dealing with. I had a friend who was diagnosed with advanced pancreatic cancer and was so scared of chemo treatments that he chose an alternative treatment instead. He showed no improvement whatsoever and the medical "drink" was brutal. His health continued to deteriorate, the cancer spread and he died. The oncologist had originally told him he would live about 18 months (typical diagnosis) and sure enough, it was exactly 18 months. The alternative treatment was a hoax in my opinion. The scientist (not a medical doctor) who prescribed the alternative treatments justified everything in the end by insinuating my friend did not follow the prescribed regimen (he did).

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Tinkrbl44 — Thu, 25 Feb 2021 19:33:49 GMT

@Deree wrote:
@ALRATIBA I appreciate your googling that for me. Yes, FMDs and FMNs get to the root cause of disease and illness as opposed to traditional docs who simply pull out the prescription pad to treat patients' symptoms with toxic drugs without bothering to investigate the cause.

I have been familiar with FMDs and FMNs for a long time and personally know many people whose lives have been changed by them rather than the ignorance and quackery by too many traditional docs. I would not have even entertained seeing an FMN without understanding what I was getting into. Thanks.

@Deree

People can always have the LUXURY of trying alternative treatments when the problem isn't life threatening.

It's so easy to disparage traditional medical doctors and complain they don't get to the root problem, but sometimes they need to stop the bleeding or stop the swelling or stop whatever is going on before they can think about the root cause.

A LOT of people would be dead if they had ignored traditional medicine and went looking for just an alternative. It definitely has its place in modern healthcare.

If you were in an ER, bleeding or in agonizing pain, you'd want a DOCTOR to do something, and do it quickly.

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Tinkrbl44 — Thu, 25 Feb 2021 19:36:33 GMT

@Jaspersmom wrote:
Many medications prescribed by traditional doctors are lifesaving and necessary. Alternative medicine can in some instances be integrated with traditional medical care, but a person has to know who and what they're dealing with. I had a friend who was diagnosed with advanced pancreatic cancer and was so scared of chemo treatments that he chose an alternative treatment instead. He showed no improvement whatsoever and the medical "drink" was brutal. His health continued to deteriorate, the cancer spread and he died. The oncologist had originally told him he would live about 18 months (typical diagnosis) and sure enough, it was exactly 18 months. The alternative treatment was a hoax in my opinion. The scientist (not a medical doctor) who prescribed the alternative treatments justified everything in the end by insinuating my friend did not follow the prescribed regimen (he did).

@Jaspersmom

ITA .... a lot of people ignore the obvious and pay a steep price ... but, hey, it's their body and their life.

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Deree — Thu, 25 Feb 2021 19:52:03 GMT

I don't disagree with you @Tinkrbl44. Traditional medicine, traditional drugs all have their place in certain situations. However in my experience traditional doctors have failed me BIG time because the ones I encountered (and I have encountered many) worked in a box, with blinders on, and were not receptive to anything else but what they were taught in med school which, sadly, doesn't teach docs some very important things.

For me personally at this stage of my life (and I wish I had done it years sooner), an FMD or FMN is the way to go. YMOV.

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KKWA — Thu, 25 Feb 2021 20:19:20 GMT

To each, his own

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Porcelain — Thu, 25 Feb 2021 20:52:09 GMT

To answer the original post, turmeric is a great natural anti-inflammatory supplement. I don't think you have to use the one prescribed. It looks like that one is a liquid and is pretty spendy. If you search it on Amazon, there are a few other brands where you get more oz per dollar.

I think that natural medicine can supplement traditional medicine. Traditional medicine is much more powerful and is what you should absolutely use for emergencies and serious issues. Maintaining your overall health is important too, but that's something to work on after any surgery and when you are on all the medicines and treatments your regular doctor wants you to take.

And your regular doctor should sign off on any natural remedy you want to try. I think most regular doctors are fine with turmeric. There might be an issue if you are on blood thinners or other meds, so do check it with regular doc.