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All the differences between each COVID-19 vaccine summarized in a simple table

Mindy D — Mon, 22 Feb 2021 23:25:41 GMT

All the differences between each COVID-19 vaccine summarized in https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwihm4LHz_7uAhVPd6wKHTDKCw4QFjABegQIARAD&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.businessinsider.com%2Fcovid-vaccines-compared-vaccine-pfizer-oxford-moderna-astrazeneca-side-effects-2021-2&usg=

Re: All th differences between each COVID-29 vaccine summarized in a simple table

Mindy D — Mon, 22 Feb 2021 23:23:33 GMT

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KLm — Tue, 23 Feb 2021 01:11:49 GMT

@Mindy D Thanks so much!

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Luvtuna — Tue, 23 Feb 2021 19:44:44 GMT

Thank you for this information Mindy. It was good to know.

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Lipstickdiva — Wed, 24 Feb 2021 16:24:41 GMT

This is from an interview with Dr. James Lawler that was published in a newspaper after people became concerned about the issue of fetus cells being used in the vaccines:

no aborted tissue and no fetal cells were used in the development or production of the Pfizer or Moderna vaccines.

But that’s where things get a little more complicated.

Fetal cell lines were used in some of the testing of the two vaccines, he said. Fetal cell lines, however, are not the same as fetal tissue. Instead, fetal cell lines are descended from cells obtained from elective abortions decades ago. In the case of the two vaccines, the companies used a fetal cell line derived nearly 50 years ago in the Netherlands. The cells, which continue to multiply in labs, now are thousands of generations removed from the original fetal cells.

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stevieb — Wed, 24 Feb 2021 16:31:51 GMT

Good to see the summary. Unfortunately, it isn't as though we currently have any choice of vaccines. In my area, and I assume elsewhere, it all boils down to what they have and is pretty much a take it or leave it situation. Upon being contacted, I will accept either the the Pfizer or Moderna vaccines, but at only 60% efficacy, the AstraZeneca is possibly not worth the hassle involved in going to get it, and could possibly see me waiting until things open up a bit more.

Re: All the differences between each COVID-19 vaccine summarized in a simple table

shoesnbags — Wed, 24 Feb 2021 17:34:23 GMT

@stevieb wrote:
Good to see the summary. Unfortunately, it isn't as though we currently have any choice of vaccines. In my area, and I assume elsewhere, it all boils down to what they have and is pretty much a take it or leave it situation. Upon being contacted, I will accept either the the Pfizer or Moderna vaccines, but at only 60% efficacy, the AstraZeneca is possibly not worth the hassle involved in going to get it, and could possibly see me waiting until things open up a bit more.

Amen @stevieb . This is basically it in a nutshell. Not just here, but on Nextdoor.com too, I see people discussing the vaccines as if they will get to choose which one they take. Not gonna happen any time soon. Back in late January when I had finally succeeded in getting our names on a list for the shot, my DH asked which vaccine it was. I told him that it was whatever was available when our turn came lol.

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stevieb — Wed, 24 Feb 2021 17:42:36 GMT

@shoesnbags If we want to choose, it appears our option is to wait still longer... I registered weeks ago and while I keep getting emails that I'm on the list, I still have no date for a shot. When I'm contacted I will ask if they know which vaccine I'll get and assuming it's one of the two more effective I'll go and be jabbed. If not, I'll wait it out until I can have some voice in what they introduce into my system. My large county is moving at a snail's pace. Some of that is due to availability and some of it due to what appears to be bad planning. They've essentially set aside two sites, neither of them proximate to many of the residents and apparently neither of them set up to be remotely accommodating of folks that might have special needs, like my elderly mother, who I will be taking when her turn comes. This has been a fiasco from Day 1. My neighbors, who went to one of the same sites I will go to told me which vaccine they got, assuming I would get the same, but it's clearly not site specific. It is based on availability on the day you show up.

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haddon9 — Wed, 24 Feb 2021 17:45:49 GMT

The J&J vaccine is about to be approved and I would like to know more about it. From what I understand it's a different technology than the Moderna & Pfizer vaccines.

Re: All th differences between each COVID-29 vaccine summarized in a simple table

shoesnbags — Wed, 24 Feb 2021 18:45:11 GMT

@haddon9 wrote:
The J&J vaccine is about to be approved and I would like to know more about it. From what I understand it's a different technology than the Moderna & Pfizer vaccines.

Hi @haddon9 . I'm not saying this like a rude "Google is your friend" response, but if you just google J&J vaccine there is a large amount of information there. Good luck!

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giraffe77 — Wed, 24 Feb 2021 20:25:04 GMT

Thank you ladies for clarifying the moral implication on these first three vaccines.. I will not use products tested on animals. And I am supposed to get vaccinated with the two current ones that is tested with these "cells"?

What difference if the cells are from the 70's or today. The answer is none. And J&J uses "cells" for their production (not test), and that is a worse case scenario.

Re: All th differences between each COVID-29 vaccine summarized in a simple table

Lipstickdiva — Thu, 25 Feb 2021 17:07:46 GMT

@haddon9 wrote:
The J&J vaccine is about to be approved and I would like to know more about it. From what I understand it's a different technology than the Moderna & Pfizer vaccines.

@haddon9 , Pfizer and Moderna are MRNA vaccines and J&J is a viral vector vaccine.

Re: All the differences between each COVID-19 vaccine summarized in a simple table

Lipstickdiva — Thu, 25 Feb 2021 17:11:05 GMT

Just fyi, both Pope Francis and Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI have been vaccinated against Covid.

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MercyMe7 — Mon, 01 Mar 2021 15:58:34 GMT

@tends2dogs

To answer your question you asked earlier about cells...they come from the kidney (hence the 'ingredient' found in a few vaccines: HEK-293.

Re: All the differences between each COVID-19 vaccine summarized in a simple table

Trinity11 — Mon, 01 Mar 2021 19:33:13 GMT

@Lipstickdiva wrote:
Just fyi, both Pope Francis and Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI have been vaccinated against Covid.

Thank you @Lipstickdiva for the facts.

Re: All the differences between each COVID-19 vaccine summarized in a simple table

Trinity11 — Mon, 01 Mar 2021 19:36:36 GMT

Thank you @Mindy D . I finally found the Moderna vaccine at a nearby Walgreens. My appointment is for Wednesday morning. Also wanted to thank you for all the time you took trying to help me find it. Very much appreciated.

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Pink123 — Mon, 01 Mar 2021 19:48:08 GMT

@haddon9 I was watching a doctor last night on TV.

The J&J vaccine contains a virus where moderna and pfizer do not.

Re: All the differences between each COVID-19 vaccine summarized in a simple table

MercyMe7 — Mon, 01 Mar 2021 23:37:16 GMT

@Tends2dogs

Yes, sadly.

The argument is that "the material used is from decades ago." Please read about it, just google: HEK cells in Covid vaccine. (Two current vax uses for testing; J&J uses for production of theirs).

Re: All the differences between each COVID-19 vaccine summarized in a simple table

lmt — Wed, 03 Mar 2021 01:51:58 GMT

@Mindy D Thank you for the great information. It helps to see the differences when they're shown side by side.

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BoGo7 — Thu, 04 Mar 2021 13:26:33 GMT

@Trinity11 wrote:
@Lipstickdiva wrote:
Just fyi, both Pope Francis and Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI have been vaccinated against Covid.
Thank you @Lipstickdiva for the facts.

FACTS? (from NPR): @Trinity11 @Lipstickdiva

"If one has the ability to choose a vaccine, Pfizer or Moderna's vaccines should be chosen over Johnson & Johnson's," say Archbishop Joseph F. Naumann of Kansas City, Kan., and Bishop Kevin C. Rhoades of Fort Wayne-South Bend, Ind. Naumann chairs the USCCB's Committee on Pro-Life Activities, and Rhoades chairs the USCCB's Committee on Doctrine.

(The 'Popes' chose the one that was "less" intrusive).