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Andrew Lessman - Melatonin

World Traveler — Tue, 08 Dec 2020 01:06:19 GMT

Has anyone tried Andrew's melatonin? If so, how has it worked for you?

Twice in the past week I have heard/read how melatonin is beneficial for people who want to stave off the virus, any virus (flu, cold, even THE virus of today). I read an article on it and also heard a doctor on the radio talking about the benefits, mainly because it obviously helps you sleep better (deep sleep) and that is the time when your body is repairing itself or fighting off anything attacking the immune system.

The suggestion was to use the sublingual version so it goes directly into the blood stream, not capsules. Also that if your body is in a compromised situation, the suggestion was for using one milligram.

I note Andrew's is not sublingual. Superior Source from Natural Grocers is sublingual.

I first read about it in The Epoch Times, December 2-6, 2020, issue. The Cleveland Clinic identified Melatonin as COVID-19 treatment. They also find that the research:

played an important role in cancer prevention
important for brain, cardiovascular, and gastrointestinal health
boosts immune function in a variety of ways
may improve treatment of certain bacterial diseases, including tuberculosis
help quell inflammation
may prevent/improve autoimmune diseases, including Type 1 diabetes
is an important energy hormone that can influence your energy level
helps regular gene expression via a series of enzymes
has anticonvulsant and antiexcitotoxic properties.

When it comes to COVID-19, the study states melatonin curbs several pathological features of the virus, including:

excessive oxidative stress and inflammation
exaggerated immune response resulting in a cytokine storm
acute lung injury
acute respiratory distress syndrome

It goes on to say that melatonin reduces the risk of positive COVID-19 tests. And that in studying patients who had the virus for this study, "all of the patients given melatonin improved within four to five days and all survived. On average, those given melatonin were discharged from the hospital after 7.3 days, compared to 13 days for those who did not get melatonin.

Then today I heard about it again on the Bob Martin radio show. He is a doctor who has had his radio show for around 20-25 years. It is on Sunday mornings, 6-9am, Pacific Time. He has has a website....doctor bob dot com.

He was the one who suggested the sublingual version at one milligram.

I had no idea melatonin did anything other than help you sleep, which I don't normally have a problem with. My head hits the pillow and I am out for seven hours!

Very interested in all the other things melatonin can do for the body. Sounces like something to add to ones daily routine.

Re: Andrew Lessman - Melatonin

Thats Me — Mon, 07 Dec 2020 01:50:40 GMT

I've taken melatonin for the past several years to help with sleep. I needed something after losing my mother, and was afraid to go the ambien or other prescription route. It took a while for the melatonin to "kick in" but it does work, most of the time. I started with 1mg but now am taking 3 mg.

I take a number of Andrew's supplements but somehow can't see paying his price for melatonin. Amazon sells Nature's Bounty in 3 mg, quick dissolve meaning it can go under your tongue, in 240 size for $6.50 or so. That's hard to beat.

Re: Andrew Lessman - Melatonin

World Traveler — Mon, 07 Dec 2020 02:00:32 GMT

@Thats Me Thanks for your response. You must really see a difference between 1 and 3 mg., I imagine.

I just checked online with Amazon, and they have the brand recommended, Superior Source, 1 mg, with Chamomile, under the tongue, $4.73/100, and it can be here on Wednesday.

Your brand is a better deal, but I think the first time out on this, I may get one bottle from Amazon and see how it goes.

Re: Andrew Lessman - Melatonin

furbabylover — Mon, 07 Dec 2020 02:01:11 GMT

@World Traveler Apparently melatonin is "by prescription only" in most other countries. It is a powerful hormone, and one can have less than pleasant reactions to it. In my case, I took a 10mg pill about 9PM one night, and wound up pacing the floor until 5am. It was horrible, and I have read that others have reacted in a similar way. Its true that it seems to have lots of benefits as relates to COVID. The sublingual idea makes sense, over taking it in pill form. I don't know if you subscribe, but ConsumerLab gives you comparisons and ratings for supplements, and they do really in depth investigations into the manufacturers. Good Luck!

Re: Andrew Lessman - Melatonin

Thats Me — Mon, 07 Dec 2020 02:18:00 GMT

@World Traveler Hi. sure that makes sense. Yes I do notice a difference between the 1 and 3 mg. I have more reliable results with the 3mg.

Also, my doctor said it works better (for sleep issues anyway) to either go off it now and then, or to take it on a schedule something like on 5 days, then off 2. It's not cast in stone though. You might find some other pattern works better for you.

I've read that going outside in the morning for a little while each day helps your body make more melatonin too.

Hope it helps! The article you posted was very interesting. Thank you for the information!

Re: Andrew Lessman - Melatonin

World Traveler — Mon, 07 Dec 2020 02:25:58 GMT

@furbabylover WOW! 10 milligrams is a whole lot. I would think it would make you go the opposite way from pacing the floor.....like, knocking you out for a couple of days! ha!

So sorry you went thru that.

Re: Andrew Lessman - Melatonin

World Traveler — Mon, 07 Dec 2020 02:29:08 GMT

@Thats Me Oh, I think I heard/read that too.....take some days off from it. Didn't understand the importance of that, but now that you stated it, I will be sure to do that.

I like the five days on, two days off, as I try to stop all routines on the weekends. I do that with skin care and other Monday-Friday routines I have. Nice to have some days where you don't have to remember to do something; just chill out.

Re: Andrew Lessman - Melatonin

VaBelle35 — Mon, 07 Dec 2020 02:57:13 GMT

I take AL's Night Time, which has 1.5 mg of Melatonin per pill (I take 3 pills), plus it has chamomile and a few other things.

I loved it for travel, and Sunday night when I start thinking about work on Monday morning.

Re: Andrew Lessman - Melatonin

Mindy D — Mon, 07 Dec 2020 05:47:39 GMT

@World Traveler wrote:
Has anyone tried Andrew's melatonin? If so, how has it worked for you?

Twice in the past week I have heard/read how melatonin is beneficial for people who want to stave off the virus, any virus (flu, cold, even THE virus of today). I read an article on it and also heard a doctor on the radio talking about the benefits, mainly because it obviously helps you sleep better (deep sleep) and that is the time when your body is repairing itself or fighting off anything attacking the immune system.

The suggestion was to use the sublingual version so it goes directly into the blood stream, not capsules. Also that if your body is in a compromised situation, the suggestion was for using one milligram.

I note Andrew's is not sublingual. Superior Source from Natural Grocers is sublingual.

I first read about it in The Epoch Times, December 2-6, 2020, issue. The Cleveland Clinic identified Melatonin as COFID-19 treatment. They also find that the research:
played an important role in cancer prevention
important for brain, cardiovascular, and gastrointestinal health
boosts immune function in a variety of ways
may improve treatment of certain bacterial diseases, including tuberculosis
help quell inflammation
may prevent/improve autoimmune diseases, including Type 1 diabetes
is an important energy hormone that can influence your energy level
helps regular gene expression via a series of enzymes
has anticonvulsant and antiexcitotoxic properties.
When it comes to COVID-19, the study states melatonin curbs several pathological features of the virus, including:
excessive oxidative stress and inflammation
exaggerated immune response resulting in a cytokine storm
acute lung injury
acute respiratory distress syndrome
It goes on to say that melatonin reduces the risk of positive COVID-19 tests. And that in studying patients who had the virus for this study, "all of the patients given melatonin improved within four to five days and all survived. On average, those given melatonin were discharged from the hospital after 7.3 days, compared to 13 days for those who did not get melatonin.

Then today I heard about it again on the Bob Martin radio show. He is a doctor who has had his radio show for around 20-25 years. It is on Sunday mornings, 6-9am, Pacific Time. He has has a website....doctor bob dot com.

He was the one who suggested the sublingual version at one milligram.

I had no idea melatonin did anything other than help you sleep, which I don't normally have a problem with. My head hits the pillow and I am out for seven hours!

Very interested in all the other things melatonin can do for the body. Sounces like something to add to ones daily routine.

@World Traveler I just read the entire ORIGINAL research study. ✅I see no mention of the melatonin being solely sublingual. Doseages might be noted in one of the figures embedded in the paper. I do know that as far as sleep goes, large doses of melatonin have been found less effective at inducing sleep in multiple studies. Maybe your eyes will spot this if I missed this. If you scan through this you can see the findings and methodology. The Discussion summarizes and explains the finding on melatonin. This study was not just looking at melatonin so you'll need to search through it.

ORIGINAL STUDY:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwi0jsyIlLvtAhXxhK0KHQkvBOkQFjAAegQIBBAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fconsultqd.clevelandclinic.org%2Fmelatonin-a-promising-candidate-for-prevention-and-treatment-of-covid-19%2F&usg=AOvVaw3SDC-NTK83b8nvH01paS2y

Re: Andrew Lessman - Melatonin

KCDiva — Mon, 07 Dec 2020 12:43:44 GMT

I have thought about taking Melatonin so many times but I am afraid of the side effects I have heard. I have heard it can cause horrible nightmares. I tried taking magnesium which was recommended several times. It made me feel like i wanted to crawl out of my skin if that makes sense. I know anyone can have a side effect from anything but I would love to go to sleep and just sleep all night.

Re: Andrew Lessman - Melatonin

World Traveler — Mon, 07 Dec 2020 13:46:45 GMT

@Mindy D Thanks for your response. So glad you took the time to read the entire article.

My original post said that I also heard it on the radio by a doctor. It was Doctor Bob who suggested the sublingual version to assist in getting the product into the blood stream faster.

His podcast of yesterday's three-hour program will be available on his website starting this coming Wednesday. I am quite sure it was in the THIRD hour where he spoke about the benefits of Melatonin relating to the virus, and where he recommending using the under-the-tongue version and the one milligram dosage and Superior Source from Natural Grocers.

The podcasts are broken up by the hour, so you can go directly to the third hour, if you want to hear his thoughts on the use of melatonin. I find him very interesting.

Re: Andrew Lessman - Melatonin

quadmimi — Mon, 07 Dec 2020 13:49:00 GMT

@World Traveler

Thank you for the post an all the info..I do have a hard time sleeping so this is helpful in a couple ways..

Re: Andrew Lessman - Melatonin

MalteseMomma — Mon, 07 Dec 2020 15:35:06 GMT

Melatonin has a reverse effect on me and causes me to have , VERY BAD DREAMS!

Re: Andrew Lessman - Melatonin

World Traveler — Mon, 07 Dec 2020 16:11:58 GMT

@MalteseMomma Do you think it was the dosage or just that your system doesn't deal well with Melatonin, no matter how low the amount is?

Re: Andrew Lessman - Melatonin

Krimpette — Mon, 07 Dec 2020 16:21:09 GMT

I've been taking Trader Joe's melatonin for several years now. Pre-Covid,I was taking .500 mcg. I've had to update to 3 mg. I take it to help me fall asleep. No nightmares thus far.

Re: Andrew Lessman - Melatonin

MoonieBaby — Mon, 07 Dec 2020 17:18:02 GMT

I take Andrew's Valerian as well as his Night Time.

I don't take them together - just one or the other.

Both are successful.

I take them about 7pm, and can ease to sleep several hours later with ZERO adverse affects.

I buy only his brand due to the fact that he has no additives, fillers or gellatins.

He's pricey, but good health has no price.

Re: Andrew Lessman - Melatonin

MalteseMomma — Mon, 07 Dec 2020 17:31:53 GMT

@World Traveler

It is the Melatonin itself. I cannot tollerate it at all. Sadly........

Re: Andrew Lessman - Melatonin

World Traveler — Mon, 07 Dec 2020 17:42:46 GMT

@MoonieBaby wrote:
I take Andrew's Valerian as well as his Night Time.
I don't take them together - just one or the other.

Both are successful.

I take them about 7pm, and can ease to sleep several hours later with ZERO adverse affects.

I buy only his brand due to the fact that he has no additives, fillers or gellatins.

He's pricey, but good health has no price.

@MoonieBaby AMEN!

Re: Andrew Lessman - Melatonin

World Traveler — Mon, 07 Dec 2020 17:46:29 GMT

I really don't need Melatonin to fall asleep; I am interested more in the other health advantages the supplement appears to give beyond sleep, especially protection against viruses.

Just so, so surprised at all the benefits Melatonin provides beyond sleep. Seems like a good thing to add to anyone's routine (as long as it doesn't cause you nightmares!) to help fight health challenges.

Re: Andrew Lessman - Melatonin

petitelady7 — Mon, 07 Dec 2020 17:55:52 GMT

I have been taking Lessman's Melatonin 3mg nightly for about 3 years...checked with my doctor prior to purchasing ( who was in favor) and I'm super pleased with the results.