topic Re: zinc in Wellness

zinc

goldensrbest — Fri, 02 Oct 2020 21:52:10 GMT

Should people start taking zinc for the winter,colds,flu,covid 19?

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Shelbelle — Fri, 02 Oct 2020 21:54:33 GMT

Zinc has been known to help with colds, remember the old Cold Eezers sold on the Q, they were zinc lozenges.

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Mindy D — Fri, 02 Oct 2020 22:30:39 GMT

I'm literally dissolving two two lozenges that contain Viamin C and zinc along with elderberry in my mouth right now. It's not that easy to get zinc. I didn't want a mega dose that is often provided in zinc losenges so I just ordered these. I usually just take a low dose vitamin C and a Vitamin D most days. Source with the highest amount is a single oyster. It's hard to get enough zinc in foods. It's also hard not to get too much zinc in supplements. I'm doing this for my total immune system. The elderberry just happened to contain the right amount of zinc so I bought it that way.

ONE THING TO KNOW ABOUT ZINC IS THAT IT CAN BE BENEFICIAL TO SOME PATHOGENS. Zinc is required for pathogens as well as humans. It's hard to know which pathogens can actually utilize zinc obtained from us to enhance their functions. For colds and flu viruses the literature does not show these virus as being able to use the zinc to their benefit but other pathogens can do so. This is still under study. I found quite a few studies for those of you that are interested.

Quoted from

Nutrients. 2017 Jun; 9(6): 624.

Published online 2017 Jun 17. doi: 10.3390/nu9060624

PMCID: PMC5490603

PMID: 28629136

Zinc in Infection and Inflammation

Nour Zahi Gammoh and Lothar Rink

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5490603/

"Nutritional immunity is a process by which the host organism sequesters trace minerals during an infection so it can be of limited availability to pathogens. It was first described for iron but has now been extended to other trace elements. Zinc is an essential trace element for both host and pathogens. Pathogens require zinc for survival, propagation and disease establishment. This prompts a competitive process between the host and the invading pathogens.100]."

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Lali1 — Fri, 02 Oct 2020 22:19:12 GMT

My husband took it when he traveled so much for work before Covid. It did not prevent him from getting really sick at the end of the year. Then I got really really sick from him. I won't tell where he traveled to. I never get colds or the flu normally and I have diabetes. But at that time I was really sick. Maybe it works for some things and not others maybe it works if you are sick. It's certainly not a sliver bullet that keeps you from getting sick.

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happycat — Fri, 02 Oct 2020 22:56:10 GMT

I think I am going to, that and vitamin C. I also got my rx for vitamin D refilled and will start taking it like I am suppose to. I saw where people low in vitamin d sometimes have a rougher time with covid.

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fthunt — Fri, 02 Oct 2020 23:01:17 GMT

@Shelbelle Yes I remember Cold Eczers because I keep a bag of them on hand for when 'that sudden' cold coming on hits.

When I bought this last bag at the drug store - a TV commercial reminded me about them - so next trip to store asked clerk where to locate.

She said...........you're the 4th person TODAY asking for Cold Eczers ?? I told her there's a running adv on TV.

They are wonderful - wouldn't be without them. - especially during the winter months.

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Anonymous032819 — Fri, 02 Oct 2020 23:09:13 GMT

It's possible to take too much zinc.

The recommend daily dose from the Mayo Clinic is 8 milligrams.

If too much is taken, one can experience headache, nausea, diarrhea, vomiting, stomach cramps and loss of appetite.

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EatWell — Sat, 03 Oct 2020 01:29:57 GMT

@Anonymous032819 wrote:
It's possible to take too much zinc.

The recommend daily dose from the Mayo Clinic is 8 milligrams.

If too much is taken, one can experience headache, nausea, diarrhea, vomiting, stomach cramps and loss of appetite.

Take 8-10 Cold-EEZE cough lodges per day to help protect you from contracting COVID.

~Please do your part. Wear a mask, observe social distancing, wash hands. It is patriotic, and the right thing to do.~😷🇺🇸

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lovesrecess — Sat, 03 Oct 2020 00:46:13 GMT

What zinc dosage should you take? I just bought 50mg capsules. I have seen recommended dosage amounts but they vary so much how do you know? Not calling the dr about it.

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RedTop — Sat, 03 Oct 2020 00:55:11 GMT

I am 65, and it is not my nature to just take these kind of supplements.

What has kept me healthy thus far is take a flu shot, wash my hands, keep my hands away from my face, avoid crowds, eat well, and stay hydrated. I do clean my toothbrush with peroxide and swish diluted peroxide daily.

I take Vit. B12 and D3 because lab testing shows my numbers tend to run at, or slightly below normal. I do not tax my liver and kidneys to break down unnecessary chemicals.

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Anonymous032819 — Sat, 03 Oct 2020 01:34:34 GMT

@EatWell wrote:
@Anonymous032819 wrote:
It's possible to take too much zinc.

The recommend daily dose from the Mayo Clinic is 8 milligrams.

If too much is taken, one can experience headache, nausea, diarrhea, vomiting, stomach cramps and loss of appetite.
Take 8-10 Cold-EEZE cough lodges per day to help protect you from contracting COVID.

~Please do your part. Wear a mask, observe social distancing, wash hands. It is patriotic, and the right thing to do.~😷🇺🇸

There is no evidence that zinc protects against Covid.

If it did, Dr. Fauci, CDC, NIH, etc would be recommending that everyone take it.

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EatWell — Sat, 03 Oct 2020 01:35:31 GMT

@lovesrecess wrote:
What zinc dosage should you take? I just bought 50mg capsules. I have seen recommended dosage amounts but they vary so much how do you know? Not calling the dr about it.

@lovesrecess

Why not? 🤔

~Please do your part. Wear a mask, observe social distancing, wash hands. It is patriotic, and the right thing to do.~😷🇺🇸

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Anonymous032819 — Sat, 03 Oct 2020 01:35:44 GMT

@lovesrecess wrote:
What zinc dosage should you take? I just bought 50mg capsules. I have seen recommended dosage amounts but they vary so much how do you know? Not calling the dr about it.

All I know is what the Mayo Clinic said.

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tarsmom — Sat, 03 Oct 2020 01:39:54 GMT

@RedTop wrote:
I am 65, and it is not my nature to just take these kind of supplements.

What has kept me healthy thus far is take a flu shot, wash my hands, keep my hands away from my face, avoid crowds, eat well, and stay hydrated. I do clean my toothbrush with peroxide and swish diluted peroxide daily.

I take Vit. B12 and D3 because lab testing shows my numbers tend to run at, or slightly below normal. I do not tax my liver and kidneys to break down unnecessary chemicals.

I do the same as you and I also do not drink more than 1 drink a week, don't smoke and eat lots of fruits, yogurt and get 9 hours of sleep a night. I try to walk 4x a week. People that I know who get sick - they say 'yes' to too many obligations, eat poorly, drink, smoke and don't sleep properly.

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Mindy D — Sat, 03 Oct 2020 01:56:18 GMT

@EatWell wrote:
@Anonymous032819 wrote:
It's possible to take too much zinc.

The recommend daily dose from the Mayo Clinic is 8 milligrams.

If too much is taken, one can experience headache, nausea, diarrhea, vomiting, stomach cramps and loss of appetite.
Take 8-10 Cold-EEZE cough lodges per day to help protect you from contracting COVID.

~Please do your part. Wear a mask, observe social distancing, wash hands. It is patriotic, and the right thing to do.~😷🇺🇸

@EatWell @A healthy immune system requires humans to have zinc but there is no evidence that taking zinc supplements prevent COVID.

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SilleeMee — Sat, 03 Oct 2020 02:39:38 GMT

There is a zinc fact sheet provided by the NIH. It tells you everything you want to know about zinc including who may be at risk for low zinc levels. If anyone is interested:

https://ods.od.nih.gov/pdf/factsheets/Zinc-Consumer.pdf

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Sooner — Sat, 03 Oct 2020 03:04:52 GMT

When COVID first appeared I saw a number of people (doctors) on tv recommending to take zinc--several said not more than 50 mg (I think mg?).

And I know one doctor who told a friend that he thought it was a good idea.

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goldensrbest — Sat, 03 Oct 2020 13:22:48 GMT

@SilleeMee wrote:
There is a zinc fact sheet provided by the NIH. It tells you everything you want to know about zinc including who may be at risk for low zinc levels. If anyone is interested:

https://ods.od.nih.gov/pdf/factsheets/Zinc-Consumer.pdf

That is good information, from that i don't think i need to take extra zinc, i snack on nuts ,eat ceral,and like beans.

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Shelbelle — Sat, 03 Oct 2020 13:27:49 GMT

I take a Centrum Silver Multi Vitamin/Mineral supplement daily for adults over 50, and there are 11 mg of zinc in one tablet. I would think too much more than that may be too much. That is listed on the bottle as 100% of the daily required amount.

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Icegoddess — Sat, 03 Oct 2020 13:55:35 GMT

I don't take zinc as a preventative and I see nothing in the NIH aritcle to indicate it works that way. I might do some losenges if I get a cold and there's some here to take. They leave a bad taste in my mouth, so I wouldn't want to use them often. I wouldn't be surprise to see a run on zinc supplements now.

I do often take Elderberry supplements in winter especially in the weeks before I go on vacation. Lucky for me the panic buying of Elderberry didn't happen until after our trip this year.