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How to do a search?

Mom2Dogs — Mon, 04 May 2020 22:02:28 GMT

I have a female family member (40ish years old) that is having a lot of health issues...fatigue, sore joints, dry mouth and a few other things. She does have a doctor appointment but I sugguested she go to WEB MD and or the Mayo Clinic website and put in her symptoms in the symptom checker, but it is not that easy...the way to use it is by alphabetical letters....like if you had one symptom. Is there some other way to google multiple health issues?

thanks!

Re: How to do a search?

Mindy D — Mon, 04 May 2020 22:11:49 GMT

@Mom2Dogs You can try putting in multiple symptoms into the search bar. Use the word and between them. If you give me the symptoms I will find information for you. Please be as specific as possible and any know health information and medications will help me get you the information. I don't use the "ands" when I search. Sjogren's would be a possibility. The more you give me the better the results.

Re: How to do a search?

pigletsmom — Mon, 04 May 2020 22:09:58 GMT

You can just put all the symptoms into google and hit enter and see what pops up. With just those three the main thing that pops up is Sjogren's syndrome.

Re: How to do a search?

Mom2Dogs — Mon, 04 May 2020 22:28:58 GMT

@Mindy D ..gosh, thank you. This is what she told me. She also has chrons disease! When I tried I didn't get to far.

She wakes up literally every hour all night long bc my joints hurt so bad. I’m not talking my hips and shoulders. It’s every joint in my body. Elbows, knuckles, ankles, all of them.

I also have severe dry mouth. I have to keep water by my bed. I wake up at night and it feels like someone has glued my throat closed. I’ve tried humidifier, oils you name it.

My toes so cold they hurt. Not my feet just my toes.

And I have extreme fatigue. Not just a feeling that I didn’t get enough sleep one night just fatigue. I can’t explain it

Re: How to do a search?

Love my grandkids — Tue, 05 May 2020 00:55:39 GMT

@Mom2Dogs About a year ago my dental hygienist told me I was having dry mouth and gave me samples of Biotene gel and mouth rinse.

I use some gel at night and no more dry mouth. It's a bit pricey but when I order from Walgreen's I often get a discount when I buy 2 tubes. A little goes a long way. Hope this is helpful to you.

Re: How to do a search?

Mom2Dogs — Mon, 04 May 2020 22:40:12 GMT

@Love my grandkids , thanks. I sent her the suggestion.

Re: How to do a search?

BExplorer — Tue, 05 May 2020 00:21:44 GMT

I am not trying to diagnose @Mom2Dogs but just share my experience 😊. I was diagnosed hypothyroid and my symptom was that out of the blue I woke up one morning with every joint in my body swollen, stiff, and sore. I could barely bend any part of my body.

I was tested, among other things, for RA and Lupus. Just as an aside my doctor decided to test my thyroid. That was the only thing that came back out of whack. A small dose of levothyroxine solved the issue and that was almost 15 years ago and no problems since then.

I hope her symptoms turn out to be something simple. 😊

Re: How to do a search?

Mom2Dogs — Tue, 05 May 2020 00:39:39 GMT

@BExplorer thanks, I will tell her to ask her doctor if she can get her thyroid tested.

@BExplorer is a tyroid test a simple blood test? or does it have a special name....

Re: How to do a search?

Love my grandkids — Tue, 05 May 2020 00:57:15 GMT

@Mom2Dogs Thyroid is a blood test. I get mine tested periodically as I am on thyroid meds. It's very easy.

Re: How to do a search?

Mom2Dogs — Tue, 05 May 2020 00:59:10 GMT

@Love my grandkids ..thanks, I thought maybe their was a specific name other than, 'thyroid' blood test....obviously I am overthinking, ha!

Re: How to do a search?

ThinkingOutLoud — Tue, 05 May 2020 01:12:53 GMT

I suggest finding someone in her area that does biomeridian testing. It's painless but can pinpoint the issue/s without getting on a merry-go-round. Hope she feels better soon!

Re: How to do a search?

Mom2Dogs — Tue, 05 May 2020 01:25:24 GMT

@ThinkingOutLoud Thank you, I have never heard of this type of test. I will look it up and tell my niece.

Re: How to do a search?

ThinkingOutLoud — Tue, 05 May 2020 01:33:11 GMT

@Mom2Dogs wrote:
@ThinkingOutLoud Thank you, I have never heard of this type of test. I will look it up and tell my niece.

I knew someone years ago who's husband had gone to many doctors but was given no answers. They found someone that did this testing and got the help they needed.

Re: How to do a search?

BExplorer — Tue, 05 May 2020 01:41:06 GMT

@Mom2Dogs wrote:
@BExplorer thanks, I will tell her to ask her doctor if she can get her thyroid tested.

@BExplorer is a tyroid test a simple blood test? or does it have a special name....

Yes, @Mom2Dogs , as @Love my grandkids said, the thyroid level test is a simple blood test. 😊

Re: How to do a search?

msgb — Tue, 05 May 2020 02:44:29 GMT

The symptoms that you have described could be attributed to a number of different health issues. The best thing to do is to wait for the appt with the doctor. Doctor Google can come up with way too many things and can cause anxiety when it might not be necessary. I know waiting isn't easy and one wants an immediate diagnosis. I know I have been there.

Re: How to do a search?

IMW — Tue, 05 May 2020 03:29:14 GMT

Sounds similar to me, hypothyroidism, fibromyalgia.

Wishing her and you good health.

Re: How to do a search?

Mindy D — Tue, 05 May 2020 22:18:10 GMT

@Mom2Dogs wrote:
@Mindy D ..gosh, thank you. This is what she told me. She also has chrons disease! When I tried I didn't get to far.

She wakes up literally every hour all night long bc my joints hurt so bad. I’m not talking my hips and shoulders. It’s every joint in my body. Elbows, knuckles, ankles, all of them.
I also have severe dry mouth. I have to keep water by my bed. I wake up at night and it feels like someone has glued my throat closed. I’ve tried humidifier, oils you name it.
My toes so cold they hurt. Not my feet just my toes.
And I have extreme fatigue. Not just a feeling that I didn’t get enough sleep one night just fatigue. I can’t explain it

@Mom2Dogs

Age, female, extreme dry mouth and throat, extreme fatigue, toes hurting, widespread joint paint are all listed in the technical overview of Sjogren's. I did not see a reference to coldness in toes in my search yet. Here's just one paragraph:

Musculoskeletal. Articular manifestations occurred in 30–60% of SS patients with arthralgia as the most common symptom reported and involving small and large joints equally. In addition, an intermittent symmetrical non-erosive polyarthropathy may be observed in 15–30% of the patients and affects mainly small joints (8). The most frequently affected joints are metacarpophalangeal joints, shoulders, wrists, and metatarsophalangeal joints (53,60,61). Muscular involvement is documented in 27% of SS patients. Likewise, myalgias are frequent while myositis is rarely diagnosed in SS. SS-related myopathy is usually mild and responds well to steroids and immunosuppressive drugs. The presence of significant muscle weakness and dramatic muscle enzyme elevations in SS patient raises the possibility of myositis (62). Hypothyroidism should be also ruled-out.

From the National Library of a Medicine comes this overview of symptoms seen in Sjogren's. Everything you cite can be found with Sjogren's. Your friend's age, gender and symptoms can all be seen in this condition. This does not mean there are no other conditions that meet your criteria. Most that meet some of your criteria are autoimmune disorders or combinations of disorders. Some are conditions appearing due to infection. Only the doctor can make a diagnosis here through a thorough evaluation and testing. You might go to this page and copy for your friend.

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Re: How to do a search?

Mom2Dogs — Tue, 05 May 2020 23:28:58 GMT

@Mindy D Thank you so much, it was very kind of you to help me out. Even when I typed in each of her symptoms as per several suggestions nothing of interest came up.

We talked last night, about her appointment on Friday...she has always had a lot of health issues and she mentioned auto immune disease. She also has crohns disease...I guess you can have more than one auto immune disease? I don't know!

While reading I discovered there is a blood test (s) for auto immune diseases (antinuclear anti body test) ....I am certain it's not as simple as a blood test, there needs to be a history, along with knowledge of symptoms, etc. but from what I gathered the blood test is important, but what do I know...I am just a shoulder to lean on and help her when ever possible. She has a great husband.

I forgot to mention (how could I forget) she had breast cancer in her early 30's...ended up with joint issues (Necrosis) because of the chemo, she has had a shoulder surgery and hip replacement!

She rarely complains so when we talked yesterday I was shocked at how awful she was feeling. I suggested she make a good list of questions and comments about what she has read. She has to be her own advocate.

Again thank you!

Re: How to do a search?

Mindy D — Wed, 06 May 2020 00:05:31 GMT

@Mom2Dogs wrote:
@Mindy D Thank you so much, it was very kind of you to help me out. Even when I typed in each of her symptoms as per several suggestions nothing of interest came up.

We talked last night, about her appointment on Friday...she has always had a lot of health issues and she mentioned auto immune disease. She also has crohns disease...I guess you can have more than one auto immune disease? I don't know!

While reading I discovered there is a blood test (s) for auto immune diseases (antinuclear anti body test) ....I am certain it's not as simple as a blood test, there needs to be a history, along with knowledge of symptoms, etc. but from what I gathered the blood test is important, but what do I know...I am just a shoulder to lean on and help her when ever possible. She has a great husband.

I forgot to mention (how could I forget) she had breast cancer in her early 30's...ended up with joint issues (Necrosis) because of the chemo, she has had a shoulder surgery and hip replacement!

She rarely complains so when we talked yesterday I was shocked at how awful she was feeling. I suggested she make a good list of questions and comments about what she has read. She has to be her own advocate.
Again thank you!

In general, it is common to find persons with more than one autoimmune disease. Some autoimmune diseases with genetic causation are also found on the same chromosome. For example, Crohns and psoriasis. I wish I had known about the necrosis before searching. I'm glad your friend is going to see her doctor Friday. There are many variables here to unwrap.

Re: How to do a search?

Mom2Dogs — Wed, 06 May 2020 00:15:39 GMT

@Mindy D I apologize for not mentioning the necrosis....I was by her side during her diagnosis of necrosis and the surgeries, she has had so many issues in her life I was focused on current issues.

I do appreciate your help.