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Gerd and Probiotics

FlowerBear — Wed, 02 Oct 2019 14:56:15 GMT

I read all over the net about probiotics and how they help with gerd. So i ask my familly dr recently and he says nope, no help. Makes me wonder if what he says is true or if the drs get money from meds they push?

Re: Gerd and Probiotics

wagirl — Wed, 02 Oct 2019 15:05:42 GMT

@FlowerBear---drs. tend to not like anything alternative for these things--would rather push the other stuff. Try it for a month or so--but you need to take BILLIONS of live cultures--like 50 billlion. I take these when I take antibiotics to help prevent yeast infections. also look into prebiotics as well.

Re: Gerd and Probiotics

2blonde — Wed, 02 Oct 2019 15:10:59 GMT

@FlowerBear I also have trouble with GERD as I've gotten older. I only use antacids for it when I need them, but I have noticed when I eat my yogurt for breakfast and lunch, I rarely have a reaction. So, it may be more a matter of certain foods that aren't GERD triggers, rather than them being cures for it.

Re: Gerd and Probiotics

SeaMaiden — Wed, 02 Oct 2019 15:17:10 GMT

I too have noticed a bit of acid stomach the last couple of years.... I cut back on my coffee and use half coffee and half coffee substitute made from grains...... I also use natural antacid chews supplements when I feel I need something. They work just fine. Mostly calcium carbonate.

Re: Gerd and Probiotics

NicksmomESQ — Wed, 02 Oct 2019 15:26:48 GMT

@FlowerBear DH & I both take digestive enzymes & a probiotic every day. All I can say is that together with a healthier diet & excercise we are doing very well. We believe that the probiotic ( Andrew Lessman's Ultimate Friendly Flora), has done wonders for us.

Re: Gerd and Probiotics

sidsmom — Wed, 02 Oct 2019 15:39:24 GMT

@FlowerBear wrote:
I read all over the net about probiotics and how they help with gerd. So i ask my familly dr recently and he says nope, no help. Makes me wonder if what he says is true or if the drs get money from meds they push?

Have to kinda agree with the doc.

GERD is ‘further up food chain.’

Probiotics help the gut...GERD is more stomach/above.

And all this can be fixed with a simple change in diet/lifestyle.

Fix the cause not the symptom.

Re: Gerd and Probiotics

Alison Wonderland — Wed, 02 Oct 2019 16:06:53 GMT

@FlowerBear wrote:
I read all over the net about probiotics and how they help with gerd. So i ask my familly dr recently and he says nope, no help. Makes me wonder if what he says is true or if the drs get money from meds they push?

Your doctor is right and there are plenty of over the counter medications available to treat GERD, so not sure why you think your doctor is getting paid off for telling people to take the appropriate medication for the problem.

Re: Gerd and Probiotics

NickNack — Wed, 02 Oct 2019 16:10:32 GMT

@FlowerBear wrote:
I read all over the net about probiotics and how they help with gerd. So i ask my familly dr recently and he says nope, no help. Makes me wonder if what he says is true or if the drs get money from meds they push?

@FlowerBear Doctors do NOT get money from medications that they prescribe. I am 100% certain of this.

Re: Gerd and Probiotics

Grouchomarx — Wed, 02 Oct 2019 16:14:09 GMT

@sidsmom wrote:
@FlowerBear wrote:
I read all over the net about probiotics and how they help with gerd. So i ask my familly dr recently and he says nope, no help. Makes me wonder if what he says is true or if the drs get money from meds they push?
Have to kinda agree with the doc.
GERD is ‘further up food chain.’
Probiotics help the gut...GERD is more stomach/above.
And all this can be fixed with a simple change in diet/lifestyle.
Fix the cause not the symptom.

You are so WRONG it is not that simple to cure GERD. I tried everything under the sun diet wise to cure it and it did not get cured. Some things helped a bit but diet does not cure it for all people. Stop making such ridiculous generalizations. Everyone's cause of GERD can be totally different. There are a lot of tests that need to be done by a doctor, and even then they usually have no cause or answer for you. I have had all the tests done you can imagine, got no answers.

In response to the OP, I did probiotics for years and it was no help for my GERD. I recently quit them and if anything I feel better and my GERD is really starting to go away (on no meds now). I have read that probiotics can cause more harm and not good. You never know. It's a complex system.

Re: Gerd and Probiotics

Zhills — Wed, 02 Oct 2019 16:26:16 GMT

You are so right!

"Gastroesophageal reflux disease, or GERD, is a digestive disorder that affects the lower esophageal sphincter (LES), the ring of muscle between the esophagus and stomach."

Some foods can trigger it, not cause it!

Age itself can weaken the LES!

Re: Gerd and Probiotics

Nightowlz — Wed, 02 Oct 2019 17:03:46 GMT

GERD, Acid Reflux don't if it's all the same or not but I have been woke up with acid reflux in the middle of the night while sleeping. Felt like a hole was burning in my throat.

I stopped eating after 7 pm but 6 pm if I have my way. I started taking Andrew Lessman Ultimate Friendly Flora probiotics. I had already been taking his Digestive Enzymes. Since I have been taking both I have not had any acid reflux, heartburn, indigestion etc.

I do believe from taking the digestive enzymes, probiotics & not eating late at night fixed my problem.

Yes your doctor is full of BS. Yes they receive kickbacks I don't care what anyone says. He does not make any money when you buy supplements.

Just wanted to add when I stopped using the probiotics for a while to see how things would go I got Shingles??? It has everything to do with your gut health.

Re: Gerd and Probiotics

sidsmom — Wed, 02 Oct 2019 18:25:11 GMT

@Grouchomarx wrote:
@sidsmom wrote:
@FlowerBear wrote:
I read all over the net about probiotics and how they help with gerd. So i ask my familly dr recently and he says nope, no help. Makes me wonder if what he says is true or if the drs get money from meds they push?
Have to kinda agree with the doc.
GERD is ‘further up food chain.’
Probiotics help the gut...GERD is more stomach/above.
And all this can be fixed with a simple change in diet/lifestyle.
Fix the cause not the symptom.
You are so WRONG it is not that simple to cure GERD. I tried everything under the sun diet wise to cure it and it did not get cured. Some things helped a bit but diet does not cure it for all people. Stop making such ridiculous generalizations. Everyone's cause of GERD can be totally different. There are a lot of tests that need to be done by a doctor, and even then they usually have no cause or answer for you. I have had all the tests done you can imagine, got no answers.

In response to the OP, I did probiotics for years and it was no help for my GERD. I recently quit them and if anything I feel better and my GERD is really starting to go away (on no meds now). I have read that probiotics can cause more harm and not good. You never know. It's a complex system.

That’s what I was saying ☝️☝️☝️☝️

‘Thank you for supporting my viewpoint.

And trying ‘everything under the sun’....ah, no.

It IS simple.

Re: Gerd and Probiotics

NicksmomESQ — Wed, 02 Oct 2019 18:24:31 GMT

@Nightowlz wrote:
GERD, Acid Reflux don't if it's all the same or not but I have been woke up with acid reflux in the middle of the night while sleeping. Felt like a hole was burning in my throat.
I stopped eating after 7 pm but 6 pm if I have my way. I started taking Andrew Lessman Ultimate Friendly Flora probiotics. I had already been taking his Digestive Enzymes. Since I have been taking both I have not had any acid reflux, heartburn, indigestion etc.
I do believe from taking the digestive enzymes, probiotics & not eating late at night fixed my problem.
Yes your doctor is full of BS. Yes they receive kickbacks I don't care what anyone says. He does not make any money when you buy supplements.
Just wanted to add when I stopped using the probiotics for a while to see how things would go I got Shingles??? It has everything to do with your gut health.

I agree 100% with @Nightowlz !! As I said in my earlier post I take both of the Lessman products & have had great results.

Also there have been many reports over the years about how drug companies reward doctors for prescribing their meds.You can't convince me otherwise.IMO doctors make money when they prescribe certain meds & order countless tests.

Re: Gerd and Probiotics

Nightowlz — Wed, 02 Oct 2019 18:36:33 GMT

@NicksmomESQ wrote:
@Nightowlz wrote:
GERDD, Acid Reflux don't if it's all the same or not but I have been woke up with acid reflux in the middle of the night while sleeping. Felt like a hole was burning in my throat.
I stopped eating after 7 pm but 6 pm if I have my way. I started taking AndrewLessmann Ultimate Friendly Floraprobioticss. I had already been taking his Digestive Enzymes. Since I have been taking both I have not had any acid reflux, heartburn, indigestion etc.
I do believe from taking the digestive enzymes,probioticss & not eating late at night fixed my problem.
Yes your doctor is full of BS. Yes they receive kickbacks I don't care what anyone says. He does not make any money when you buy supplements.
Just wanted to add when I stopped using theprobioticss for a while to see how things would go I got Shingles??? It has everything to do with your gut health.
I agree 100% with @Nightowlz !! As I said in my earlier post I take both of theLessmann products & have had great results.
Also there have been many reports over the years about how drug companies reward doctors for prescribing theirmedss.You can't convince me otherwise.IMO doctors make money when they prescribe certainmedss & order countless tests.

@NicksmomESQ

They do make money when they prescribe medications or order tests. I know it's a fact. The hospital they are affiliated with tell them to do this. My doctor closed his practice to go out on his own not excepting Insurance. From the article in the newspaper when this happened he as much as said what we are talking about. He did not like having to run unnecessary tests or prescribe medications he could get away with. I was pretty sure this was going on all along but after reading the article in the paper I know it's true.

Re: Gerd and Probiotics

NicksmomESQ — Wed, 02 Oct 2019 18:52:14 GMT

@Nightowlz DH went to Urgent Care a few weeks ago for a deep cut that wasn't healing. The doctor prescribed a steroid cream.He told DH that he doesn't want to refer him to a specialist because they will run 3 or 4 unnecessary tests,then prescribe the steroid cream plus a strong antibiotic for an infection he doesn't have.

The cut healed in about a week.

Re: Gerd and Probiotics

Grouchomarx — Wed, 02 Oct 2019 19:10:02 GMT

@sidsmom wrote:
That’s what I was saying ☝️☝️☝️☝️
‘Thank you for supporting my viewpoint.

And trying ‘everything under the sun’....ah, no.
It IS simple.

What are you talking about? I do not support your viewpoint that everyone can cure their GERD with diet and lifestyle changes.

Re: Gerd and Probiotics

Nightowlz — Wed, 02 Oct 2019 19:24:03 GMT

@NicksmomESQ wrote:
@Nightowlz DH went to Urgent Care a few weeks ago for a deep cut that wasn't healing. The doctor prescribed a steroid cream.He told DH that he doesn't want to refer him to a specialist because they will run 3 or 4 unnecessary tests,then prescribe the steroid cream plus a strong antibiotic for an infection he doesn't have.
The cut healed in about a week.

@NicksmomESQ

Sounds like he saw a good doctor at the Urgent Care.

My gums on one tooth was pulling away from the tooth.

My gums around it were all swollen.

I thought I was getting an abscessed tooth.

There was a little pus oozing from my gums after I saw the dentist. He never said anything about it? He prescribed an antibiotic in case I needed it. I never took it. Had my teeth cleaned.

I used tea tree oil on the area for several days straight before I saw the dentist. After I saw the dentist I started using some Sovereign Silver. It all cleared up. I now put the silver on my toothbrush every morning before my toothpaste.

Re: Gerd and Probiotics

Nonametoday — Wed, 02 Oct 2019 19:29:32 GMT

I took Probiotics for a long time and never helped anything but the salesmen who sold it to me. I have GERD. In fact, on my recent endo, I was told that my hiatal hernia is much larger and my stomach is up in my chest area, the reason (that even with proton pump inhibitors) I am having trouble with indigestion and choking.

Re: Gerd and Probiotics

granddi — Wed, 02 Oct 2019 19:34:41 GMT

@NickNack wrote:
@FlowerBear wrote:
I read all over the net about probiotics and how they help with gerd. So i ask my familly dr recently and he says nope, no help. Makes me wonder if what he says is true or if the drs get money from meds they push?

@FlowerBear Doctors do NOT get money from medications that they prescribe. I am 100% certain of this.

I am 100% certain that Doctors do not get money for medications they Rx because that would be unlawful. However, they do often receive other incentivies such as meals or trips. Some checks to the dr office is for "office marketing"

For example, your eye doc recommends certain eye vitamins and says here is the company's on line ordering. You will be asked to say who referred you and walla....the dr office gets a commission.

In the early days of macular degeneration injections, there were 2 drugs that could be used. Most ophthalmologists selected the most expensive bc of "rebates" Dermatologists have arrangements with some companies of the products that they sample or sell.

Say you get a newsletter(or web site ads) from your doctor that has product/medication information included. Good chance that these companies paid all or part of the cost of the newletter. This does not mean it is deceitful or dishonest of the dr office. It just says the companies find ways to show their appreciation for the business sent their way.

This is not to suggest that the doc who was negative towards probiotics was in some way financially motivated. This is a comment about my experience seeing medical kick backs first hand.

Re: Gerd and Probiotics

Pink123 — Wed, 02 Oct 2019 20:24:02 GMT

No, probiotics did not help me at all.

Many people do have a hernia and this is a major

problem for GERD sufferer's.

No one is sure why some suffer more than others.

It is most likely genetic's - heriditary.

I find some of these thread's in the wellness section

to be extremely disturbing. If I ate the diet that a handful mention here ad nauseum I would be dead.

Each of us is different and no one knows our

individual diagnosis or health issues on these forums. Please ignore

and listen to your Doctor's who are the experts in your individual case.

If an oncologist or gastroenterologist ever came on this forum to read what is written on some of these threads they would be shake their head's in disbelief!!