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KETO diet plans

novamc1 — Wed, 10 Jul 2019 10:44:59 GMT

Is a Keto Diet for You?
This fat-burning approach may not be safe for everyone
by Clint Carter, AARP, July 8, 2019

Maybe you know someone who snarfs down piles of bacon, but thinks toast is evil. Perhaps you have friends who won’t go to dinner after 7, because the time falls outside their “food window.” You might have even seen someone drinking “bulletproof coffee” — regular joe with a pat of butter and some oil mixed in.

These behaviors are all linked to popular weight-loss programs that share a common approach: to make your body achieve ketosis, a metabolic state that switches your body’s engine from sugar burner to fat burner.

Ketogenic, or “keto,” diets have been around a long time. Conceived in the 1920s as a treatment for epilepsy, they provided the science behind the Atkins diet that first became popular in the 1970s. Now they’re back.

Here are answers to questions about how they work and whether ketogenic diets are a sensible approach to weight loss for older people.

What is the underlying theory of ketosis?

After you eat carbohydrates, your blood surges with glucose, the primary sugar that powers all your body’s cells. But when you don’t consume carbohydrates for an extended period — as your ancestors might have done in times of famine — the glucose runs dry, and your liver begins converting stored body fat into W-shaped molecules called ketones. This is the backup fuel system for your body: It is, essentially, running on body fat.

How do you trigger ketosis?

Most proponents point to two approaches: intermittent fasting or following a keto diet. Many ketosis advocates combine the two methods to one extent or another.
Intermittent fasting attempts to mimic the effects of a temporary famine by limiting one’s food intake to a daily window (usually about eight hours), or by integrating a couple of very-low-calorie days into each week to force the body into ketosis.

Following a keto diet, on the other hand, involves eating primarily fat plus a limited amount of protein (because protein can be converted to glucose) and almost nothing else.

“The keto diet is designed to mimic the effect of fasting without actually starving,” says Stephen Cunnane, a professor with the Research Centre on Aging at the University of Sherbrooke in Quebec. “Broadly speaking, they do the same thing.”

But it’s not easy. “We can only get into ketosis by eating less than about 50 grams of carbs a day — about a cup of cooked pasta,” says Carla Prado, an associate professor of nutrition at the University of Alberta in Edmonton.

Do keto diets work?

Yes and no.

In a study published this year, volunteers who went on a ketogenic diet for three months lost 17 pounds and 5.1 percent of their body fat, on average. And a yearlong study published in Diabetes Therapy found that a daily carbohydrate cap of 30 grams — about what you’d get from a banana — could help people lose 12 percent of their body weight on average.

But while these results sound promising, they may have nothing to do with whether or not people achieve ketosis.

“The diet is very monotonous,” Prado says. “There just isn’t much that you can eat, so of course you end up eating less.” When government researchers designed a study to hold calorie intakes constant, they found no advantage to keto versus a balanced diet with carbohydrates. And a review of 23 randomized controlled trials found no difference in body weight between those on low-carb and high-carb diets.

Plus, much of what people lose in ketosis, at least initially, is water weight. Sugar stored in your body is bound with H2O. So when you start cutting carbs, your body grabs that sugar and releases the water. “People think they’re losing fat, but they’re actually rapidly losing water,” Prado says.

Can Keto Halt Cognitive Decline?

Your brain on sugar

• Like the rest of your body, your brain runs largely on sugar, says Cunnane. As the brain ages, neural tissue can sometimes struggle to metabolize that sugar properly, leading to cognitive decline.

Your fasting brain

• “Ketones are actually its preferred source of energy,” Cunnane says. With as little as 12 hours of fasting, your brain begins shifting toward ketone metabolism, and as ketosis ramps up, ketones can supply more than 60 percent of your brain’s energy, which helps it overcome the problem of sugar metabolism.

Your brain on fat

• In a study, Cunnane and his colleagues gave 19 cognitively impaired subjects — average age 75 — two daily drinks containing medium-chain triglycerides (MCT), a fatty acid that converts into ketones more efficiently than the mixed fats in food sources.

• In six months the subjects’ language skills, processing speed and executive function improved significantly, and they scored 54 percent higher on a test of visual memory.

And the caveat...

• There’s no evidence that ketones will have the same cognitive-boosting effect on normal, healthy brains that process glucose properly, says Cunnane.

Are keto diets appropriate for people with diabetes?

Talk to your doctor about it, but studies have shown that keto diets can help people improve their insulin sensitivity. “Type 2 diabetes can be controlled with a ketogenic diet,” says Cunnane.

A review of studies in the International Journal of Diabetes and Clinical Research concluded that keto diets “should be taken into serious consideration as a possible standard therapy in the future treatment ... of diabetes.”

But again, following a keto diet is difficult. For diabetics, it’s best done under a doctor’s supervision. “This is a prescription-strength diet,” says Eric Westman, an associate professor of medicine at Duke University in Durham, N.C., and the cofounder of Heal Clinics, a company that used dietary ketosis to treat type 2 diabetes. (Virta Health is another company that does this.)

Can a keto diet help fight cancer?

There is some positive evidence. Cancer cells predominantly eat glucose; some cancer cells can’t metabolize ketones. “With a ketogenic diet, we may be able to essentially starve cancer cells,” Prado says. In studies on animals, researchers have shown that fasting or severe restrictions on carbohydrates can slow or halt the growth of some tumors. Small studies on humans suggest this might prove to be a useful supplement to radiation and chemotherapy.

But the research is still too young to say for sure. “The results are promising,” Prado says. “But they’re not consistent. And it’s really difficult to have people follow the diet.” Until there is better data, it’s too early for experts to make sweeping recommendations for cancer patients who are already undergoing difficult treatment plans.

So, should you try it?

If the keto diet sounds difficult and complicated — well, it can be. Even in Westman’s clinic, where patients were trying to beat diabetes with the help of professionals. about 50 percent of patients dropped out within a year. And some researchers are concerned about the potential for things like kidney stones, renal damage and elevated LDL cholesterol.

Others warn about “keto flu” — an electrolyte imbalance that often affects people on the diet.

But for older adults, the biggest risk of fasting or keto dieting is the fact that you’re often depriving your body of the protein it needs to build and maintain muscle mass. “To build muscle, older people need more protein than younger people,” Prado says. “With the ketogenic diet, you have a maximum amount of protein you can eat — usually only 15 percent of your calories.”

So if you’re eating 2,000 calories a day, you’d be allowed only about 300 calories, or about 75 grams, worth of protein. That’s considerably less than what Prado recommends for the average 180-pound person who wants to avoid frailty, falls and fractures.

One 10-week study of a group of men over 70 found that those who ate the recommended daily allowance (RDA) of 0.8 grams of protein per kilogram of body weight (about 65 grams for a 180-pound person) lost muscle, while those eating twice that amount added muscle around their midsections and improved their leg strength.

Cutting protein to “go keto” means potentially sacrificing muscle mass — and that’s a big trade-off to burn a little bit of belly fat.

Bottom line:

Talk to your doctor first, and approach keto diets carefully and cautiously.

Re: KETO diet plans

Susan Louise — Thu, 11 Jul 2019 17:53:09 GMT

@novamc1 wrote:
Bottom line: Talk to your doctor first, and approach keto diets carefully and cautiously.

@novamc1 Well, the bottom line is our Drs recommended this lifestyle!

For those who really don't understand a keto/low carb lifestyle and just read articles with hype, should do their own research on the subject.

My DH's Dr recommended him to go very low carb to 60 carbs or less a day...not quite Keto (30 carbs a day). DH was diagnosed as a type 2 diabetic Sept last year. Since then he has lost 85 lbs and his blood sugar numbers are now normal. Not just because he has lost weight, but because he doesn't eat the high carbs anymore. He is also off the diabeties and cholesterol meds too.

I also found out I was pre-diabetic and since I have now lost over 50 lbs, my blood sugar levels are normal too. We both check them every day.

Eating this lifestyle has totally eliminated my GERD, severe heartburn and acid reflux. There are also other health issues between both of us that have improved.

It has been ages since DH and I have felt as good as we do now. What is really upsetting is all those 'in charge' won't speak the truth. DH and I wish we had taken this lifestyle seriously years ago and not had believed it was just a trend/fad. If we did, we wouldn't have developed the health issues we did. We believed what the gov agencies pushed, what the top health institutes pushed with the food pyramid...eating LOTS of grains, pasta, etc....and lots of fruits. What that did was put our blood sugar out of control late in life. Our bodies couldn't take that type of eating any longer.

After reading a few books and watching a few videos, the wool has been lifted from our eyes. There is plenty of info out there for those that care to learn/be informed themselves...and I can assure you it will be an eye opening experience.

All I can do is pass on info that helped us with our health issues.

There are millions of folks who live this lifestyle for heath reasons. For those who want to become informed...and at least learn about a low carb/keto lifestyle, I started a thread back in March with a lengthy post with several references (link below):

https://community.qvc.com/t5/Wellness/For-those-that-believe-in-low-fat-diets/m-p/5353543#M158055

Re: KETO diet plans

Athome2 — Wed, 10 Jul 2019 11:49:18 GMT

Hi, I’ve never posted on the boards before but I’ve lurked for years! I love seeing the keto/low carb success stories and would like to add a little bit about myself. I find that eating low carb is extremely easy to maintain. It gives me lots of energy and helps me maintain a good weight for my height, good muscle tone and blood work. I know it’s best for me. It’s wonderful to read of others’ successes too!

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meem120 — Wed, 10 Jul 2019 12:28:10 GMT

The weight loss is phenomenal on a Keto diet. Unfortunately, my cholesteral numbers skyrocketed.

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Athome2 — Wed, 10 Jul 2019 12:33:56 GMT

Susanlouise: congratulations on your and your husband’s success! I know I personally will never go back and don’t regard this as just how I eat now: meat and veggies. Easy.
I wanted to mention that the article talks about the keto flu but doesn’t say it goes away and is replaced by clear thinking and a feeling of well being, at least that’s how I feel!

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Athome2 — Wed, 10 Jul 2019 12:35:55 GMT

I meant to say I DO regard this as how I eat now.

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Susan Louise — Wed, 10 Jul 2019 12:39:55 GMT

@meem120 wrote:
The weight loss is phenomenal on a Keto diet. Unfortunately, my cholesteral numbers skyrocketed.

@meem120 My husband is now off his cholesterol meds. If you have time, I recommend you watching a 14 minute video on youtube:

Dr Ken Berry - Help! Keto raised my cholesterol

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sidsmom — Wed, 10 Jul 2019 13:03:51 GMT

Whenever a diet plan requires the words ‘carefully’ &

‘cautiously’, respect that. It’s dangerous...and avoid.

Cause lots of inflammation & damage to your

endothelium system.

Even in the original post it states, ’(glucose) the primary sugar that powers all your body’s cells’. So why would one want to deny the body of that?

2 questions to ask if wanting to go Keto:

-Are you a young child? No.

-Do you have epileptic seizures? No.

No? Avoid.

Losing weight & attaining better health is so simple.

Why do people make this so hard?

There’s no yellow ‘CAUTION’ tape around the

produce section.

So to answer the OP question, ‘is Keto for you’

the answer is not just NO, but H*LL no.

Just eat: 🥬🍏🍓🥦🌽🥔🍊🍠

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Laura14 — Wed, 10 Jul 2019 14:06:36 GMT

Clint Carter needs to do more research about what this diet actually is and the research supporting it especially in terms of brain health.

To say it is high fat, low protein and nothing else is ridiculous. It's high unsaturated fat like olive oil not bacon or cheese which are saturated, lots of vegetables and some protein usually in the form of seafood not beef which again is saturated aka the Mediterranean diet.

And to say there is no evidence about brain health is beyond poor journalism. The brain does not prefer sugar and milk chocolate and ice cream are not health foods. The brain uses sugar primarily because it's a cheaper, faster way to get energy and more readily available because of the poor way most of us eat. The body doesn't make ketones is you're constantly eating carbs and sugar. At least he got that part right.

The reason Alzheimer's is called Type 3 diabetes is because the brain does not like sugar as a primary fuel source. You are eroding your neural pathways in much the same way you are eroding your arteries and causing yourself high cholesterol and heart disease with the plaques your body makes to try and repair the damage and decreasing your insulin sensitivity (hello type 2 diabetes) as well.

AARP should be ashamed of this type of article. A modicum of research would have at least balanced it out a bit and given a clearer more correct picture.

And one last caveat about MCT oil. If you are at genetic risk for Alzheimers meaning you know you have the APOE4 gene or even if you don't know and just have a family history, do NOT take MCT oil.

It actually becomes a risk factor for those people with APOE4 because again it is a saturated fat. It is only recommended by the top Alzheimer's researchers as a crutch to get you into ketosis initially but should be rapidly eliminated since APOE4 peeps do not clear out saturated fat well hence the success with keto in people with neurological diseases like Alzheimer's and Parkinson's and MS.

And June was my one year anniversary of intermittent fasting using the 8 hour eating window every day. Easiest and most effective thing I have ever done for my weight and my health.

Re: KETO diet plans

Susan Louise — Wed, 10 Jul 2019 13:37:23 GMT

@Athome2 wrote:
Susanlouise: congratulations on your and your husband’s success! I know I personally will never go back and don’t regard this as just how I eat now: meat and veggies. Easy.
I wanted to mention that the article talks about the keto flu but doesn’t say it goes away and is replaced by clear thinking and a feeling of well being, at least that’s how I feel!

@Athome2 Thank you

DH and I will never go back to the conventional way of eating ever again too.

Besides feeling so much better...mentally & physically, we keep thinking about the hundreds of $ saved monthly...nearly $850 of $1,000 (OOP) on meds neither of us take anymore. Just the Crestor alone DH was taking the price was off the charts...then add on his 2 diabetic meds, all the meds I was taking for GERD, severe heartburn, acid reflux, etc.

When anyone is able to get off meds, common sense tells me they are healthier

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novamc1 — Wed, 10 Jul 2019 13:54:15 GMT

I suspect many of the Keto fans are actually on sort of a modified Keto diet instead of a strict one.

The internist I was seeing for years for annual checkups before moving out of state just always left me with these words.........."Watch your carb intake."

Well, I have been limiting carbs (and ALL sweets, which I don't even like) for decades.

Don't see a need for following some strict Keto regime or for cutting out any one food group.

My only question to that doctor was whether my tendency to only eat about every 12 hours or only once on some days was actually causing metabolism to slow down. She assured me that this "intermittent fasting" was not harmful in any way. Have no idea whether she was correct.

I wasn't "fasting" on purpose........just don't get hungry several times a day.

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sidsmom — Wed, 10 Jul 2019 13:59:59 GMT

@novamc1 wrote:
I suspect many of the Keto fans are actually on sort of a modified Keto diet instead of a strict one.

And in some ways, that could be WORSE than 100% Keto.

Mixing large amounts of fat AND carbohydrates....metabolic nightmare.

Just cut down the fat to 10-15%....and magic happens.

Re: KETO diet plans

Susan Louise — Wed, 10 Jul 2019 14:29:02 GMT

@Laura14 wrote:
Clint Carter needs to do more research about what this diet actually is and the research supporting it especially in terms of brain health.

To say it is high fat, low protein and nothing else is ridiculous. It's high unsaturated fat like olive oil not bacon or cheese which are saturated, lots of vegetables and some protein usually in the form of seafood not beef which again is saturated aka the Mediterranean diet.

And to say there is no evidence about brain health is beyond poor journalism. The brain does not prefer sugar and milk chocolate and ice cream are not health foods. The brain uses sugar primarily because it's a cheaper, faster way to get energy and more readily available because of the poor way most of us eat. The body doesn't make ketones is you're constantly eating carbs and sugar. At least he got that part right.

The reason Alzheimer's is called Type 3 diabetes is because the brain does not like sugar as a primary fuel source. You are eroding your neural pathways in much the same way you are eroding your arteries and causing yourself high cholesterol and heart disease with the plaques your body makes to try and repair the damage and decreasing your insulin sensitivity (hello type 2 diabetes) as well.

AARP should be ashamed of this type of article. A modicum of research would have at least balanced it out a bit and given a clearer more correct picture.

And one last caveat about MCT oil. If you are at genetic risk for Alzheimers meaning you know you have the APOE4 gene or even if you don't know and just have a family history, do NOT take MCT oil.

It actually becomes a risk factor for those people with APOE4 because again it is a saturated fat. It is only recommended by the top Alzheimer's researchers as a crutch to get you into ketosis initially but should be rapidly elimninated since APOE4 peeps do not clear out saturated fat well hence the success with keto in people with neurological diseases like Alzheimer's and Parkinson's and MS.

And June was my one year anniversary of intermittent fasting using the 8 hour eating window every day. Easiest and most effective thing I have ever done for my weight and my health.

@Laura14 There are many variations to a low carb lifestyle. Ours includes fats like bacon and plenty of meat. But we also eat eggs, fish, lots of salmon, tuna, pork, chicken and crab cakes!

We eat salads about 5 days a week with lots of greens of kale, spinach, Romaine lettuce and other veggies.

Other particulars we follow...

Our coffee is with heavy whipping cream...no more Coffee-Mate or ID, or Bailey's creamer. The only dairy products we use now are heavy whipping cream, butter, sour cream and cheeses...no other dairy because of carbs.

I use avacado oil to cook/bake with...no more veg/canola oils. I also use butter and bacon grease to cook with too.

We don't use olive oil because we just don't like the taste. With avacado oil it's tasteless so it can be used in recipes to make baked goods too.

We bake with coconut or almond flour...no more white/wheat flour. We use certain sugar subsittutes that don't raise our blood sugar.

When we want to snack it's almonds, walnuts, cashews and pork rinds...a handful is great with a sandwich for something crunchy. I make sandwiches with sprouted flaxseed bread and no other breads. The brand we get we order from California and buy 6 loaves at a time and freeze them.

For our sweet tooth, DH has made wonderful biscotti using a recipe from KetoConnect and I have made chocolate chip cookies from their recipe too. When I don't feel like baking, we'll snag a pkg of FatSnax cookies from the freezer and we'll each have a cookie. If we were on the lower end of our carb count for the day, we'll splurge and each have our own pkg of 2 cookies...LOL DH also makes fabulous ice cream using heavy whipping cream and erythritol...coffee with Lily's chocolate chips and blackberry ice cream are my faves!

We don't feel deprived whatsoever. We still have everything we always loved with just 3 exceptions of low/no current options...

1 - finding recipes for foods we enjoy but just made with different ingredients...just as yummy too. Like the chocolate chip cookies. We can't have Toll House Cookies anymore, but there are some great substitutes! DH makes awesome pizzas using carb balance Mission wraps, So. We haven't had a 'normal' pizza...either frozen or from a restaurant since last August and we don't even miss them!

2 - pasta is pretty much the only food that we miss once in a great while, but we have learned to live without it. Unfortunately there is no real good substitute for that type of food...yet.

3 - When we eat out now, it's at one of 3 places...Wendy's (they have perfect containers to order their bacon double cheese burgers w/o the bun), Jimmy Johns (they have a few great un-wiches) and Red Lobster because they have a nice selection of menu items that are low carb friendly.

If you get a chance, watch a 14 minute video on youtube about bacon:

Dr Ken Berry - Enjoy your bacon!

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Grouchomarx — Wed, 10 Jul 2019 14:30:26 GMT

Great to hear all your success stories. I just want to add that I feel it's a myth that it's hard to maintain. It's honestly the easist diet/lifestyle I've ever tried. Once you get adapted to it all those side effects go away and you feel normal again. Eating out is not challenging, with a few exceptions. We avoid Asian cuisine in general due to all the rice, cornstarch and sugar used in so many dishes. Mexican is also challenging so we avoid it (rice, beans, tortillas, margaritas). We find that restaurants are happy to comply with your request for things like leave off the potatoes, sub with some asparagus, no croutons in the salad, etc. They don't even question it. The only other thing I'll say is you must drink a lot of water on the keto diet to stay hydrated.

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Susan Louise — Thu, 11 Jul 2019 16:01:34 GMT

@Grouchomarx wrote:
Great to hear all your success stories. I just want to add that I feel it's a myth that it's hard to maintain. It's honestly the easist diet/lifestyle I've ever tried. Once you get adapted to it all those side effects go away and you feel normal again. Eating out is not challenging, with a few exceptions. We avoid Asian cuisine in general due to all the rice, cornstarch and sugar used in so many dishes. Mexican is also challenging so we avoid it (rice, beans, tortillas, margaritas). We find that restaurants are happy to comply with your request for things like leave off the potatoes, sub with some asparagus, no croutons in the salad, etc. They don't even question it. The only other thing I'll say is you must drink a lot of water on the keto diet to stay hydrated.

@Grouchomarx I totally agree with your post. I forgot that steakhouse restaurants are also a good option. For the most part, the Olive Garden is a pass...LOL Loved their shrimp alfredo & tour of Italy dinners...and oh that Tuscana soup! I made that at home for years using that restaurant copy cat recipe cookbook...sigh. But no more...still, all is good. Having a dinner at home with crab cakes and a great caesar salad with FatSnax lemon cookies for dessert is a great substitute

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Grouchomarx — Wed, 10 Jul 2019 14:52:49 GMT

I forogt in my last post, I wanted to share a great low carb discovery I made. Tumaros low carb tortillas. They have many flavors. The lowest carb is the multi grain at 3 net carbs (and 7 grams fiber which fills you up). They taste exactly like normal flour tortillas, unlike some I've tried in the past. They are amazing. They are great for cold cut wraps, quesadillas, tacos, burritos. I get them at my local Acme grocery store. Mrs Greens also carries them. They freeze well too so I always stock up. They'ver really expanded the range of things I can make.

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Laura14 — Wed, 10 Jul 2019 15:07:45 GMT

@Susan Louise One of the brain researchers advocates what he calls Ketoflex which is no grains or any other carb like sugars and meat only as a condiment meaning very sparingly. He would say no to tuna because of the high mercury but the 'flex' part is that you do what you need to do and feel good about.

I agree there are all kinds of healthy versions of keto as long as you keep the fat, for the most part, unsaturated like advocado. It depends on why you are doing it. For me, my body doesn't process saturated fat well at all so I keep it cleaner.

I have found a wonderful company that makes grain free, soy free, dairy free, nacho chips, taco shells and tortillas that are made with almond, coconut or cassava flours and they use avocado oil instead of the bad ones. I swear I can not tell the difference between it and the regular items. In fact, I have a shipment coming in this week to replenish. LOL

Glad you are having such success.

Re: KETO diet plans

Susan Louise — Wed, 10 Jul 2019 15:54:42 GMT

@Grouchomarx wrote:
I forogt in my last post, I wanted to share a great low carb discovery I made. Tumaros low carb tortillas. They have many flavors. The lowest carb is the multi grain at 3 net carbs (and 7 grams fiber which fills you up). They taste exactly like normal flour tortillas, unlike some I've tried in the past. They are amazing. They are great for cold cut wraps, quesadillas, tacos, burritos. I get them at my local Acme grocery store. Mrs Greens also carries them. They freeze well too so I always stock up. They'ver really expanded the range of things I can make.

@Grouchomarx That's a great option

The Mission tortillia wraps we get are the 'regular' carb balance 8 ct pkg with 6 net carbs each. We tried the multigrain option and we just didn't like the flavor. Mission also has a smaller wrap size that is only 4 carbs each, but we like the larger size better.

We allow ourselves 2 wraps each for meals. I'll make wraps using sliced peppers & onion fried/sauted in avacado oil til carmalized. Then I'll add a portion of a packet of Old El Paso taco seasoning and stir that in. Our meat is sliced chicken breast, steak or pork. DH will add some sour cream, cheddar cheese and jalapeno peppers to his wraps too.

As you mentioned, so many uses for them! We stick to mainly 3 uses though. Once in a great while I'll make breakfast burritos with scrambled eggs, cheese, and heat up and add some Jimmy Dean sausage crumbles.

As for pizza, DH makes 2 pizzas for each of us using 2 tortilla wraps each, Newman's sockarooni sauce, mozz & parm cheeses and pepperoni..and sometimes a handful of those JD sausage crumbles!. DH also adds jalapeno pepper slices on his...LOL He bakes them on a steel plate at the bottom of our oven to bake them and using parchment paper too. It helps make the wraps crispy around the edge and bottom like a real pizza.

The sprouted flaxseed bread bread we get is from Alvarado Street Bakery. The best part... For 2 slices: 100 calories & 16 'net' carbs. There is also a bonus...

This is the only bread we have eaten since September and we never get bored eating it...the bread is filling and delish!

We checked a LOT of breads and this was the only brand/type of bread that had the lowest carbs for 2 slices. I've read some carb counts on some and it equaled nearly the entire carb count for us in a day in just one slice...other breads I would have to cut one slice in half...LOL

So, it's very user friendly for making sandwiches. We also have well rounded brunches on the weekend...example is a couple of eggs, a cutie, one slice of this bread toasted with butter or almond butter and 2 jimmy dean patties or 2 slices of bacon. Sometimes instead of the toast and cutie I'll make waffles with Carbquick

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kermiefrog — Wed, 10 Jul 2019 17:28:41 GMT

Fifteen months ago, I received a call from my doctor at 9:30 p.m. saying she had just gotten my test results from my checkup that morning. My blood sugar was 387 and my a1c was 13.8. That meant nothing to me as I had no family history, nor relatives with diabetes. Not until she said for me to get back in to see her the next morning, because I was in the extremely dangerous range for a heart attack, did I become educated on my problem. I researched everything I could and my research led to the Keto WOE (way of eating). I have since lost 118 pounds and no longer take medication for arthritis. I feel better than I EVER have. My bad cholesterol is low and my good cholesterol is high, and my doctor is very happy with my numbers. This has been the easiest weight loss journey I have ever been on. I basically keep my carbs under 20 and no sugar. I read nutritional on everything. I have no problem in keeping it up and I find it rather enjoyable. In my case, I feel like Keto is healthy and a completely easy WOE for me.

Re: KETO diet plans

tsavorite — Wed, 10 Jul 2019 20:26:24 GMT

@Laura14 wrote:
@Susan Louise One of the brain researchers advocates what he calls Ketoflex which is no grains or any other carb like sugars and meat only as a condiment meaning very sparingly. He would say no to tuna because of the high mercury but the 'flex' part is that you do what you need to do and feel good about.

I agree there are all kinds of healthy versions of keto as long as you keep the fat, for the most part, unsaturated like advocado. It depends on why you are doing it. For me, my body doesn't process saturated fat well at all so I keep it cleaner.

I have found a wonderful company that makes grain free, soy free, dairy free, nacho chips, taco shells and tortillas that are made with almond, coconut or cassava flours and they use avocado oil instead of the bad ones. I swear I can not tell the difference between it and the regular items. In fact, I have a shipment coming in this week to replenish. LOL

Glad you are having such success.

@Laura14 would you mind sharing the company name/product? do you get it from Amazon??