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AIP DIET Autoimmune Protocol Diet

LTT1 — Fri, 22 Feb 2019 16:20:30 GMT

Has anyone tried this diet?

If so, what have you found to eat?

It is very restricted!

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Still Raining — Fri, 22 Feb 2019 16:34:24 GMT

it is getting hard to keep pace with the diet of the week. Most of them seem to just be eye rollers.

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Daludog — Fri, 22 Feb 2019 16:37:53 GMT

I just looked it up....oh my gosh, not for me ! I don't eat meat, and my rheum said meat causes inflamation in the body, weird they say to eat meat. I'm beginning to think they are all just guessing about what is best....

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millieshops — Fri, 22 Feb 2019 16:42:42 GMT

I don't follow any of the current miracle diets. I wouldn't try that one because I don't have an autoimmune disorder and for weight loss and weight maintenance, I do best with a balanced diet, always have. I do have to work harder at finding what I like to eat now that I watch my cholesteral intake very carefully - I do love eggs and real cheese, but I know I have to control them.

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LTT1 — Fri, 22 Feb 2019 17:17:26 GMT

For those who are in doubt, I am wondering if what is known about various conditions (autoimmune) is outpacing nutrition knowledge or vice versa.

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phoenixbrd — Fri, 22 Feb 2019 17:23:04 GMT

This "diet" is so wrong. Actually will create inflammation and toxicity....another gimmick. I agree with no dairy/eggs, processed food, and sugar...common sense that most of us are aware of. A diet of oil and meat....that's a ticket to the nursing home, Oil clogs your arteries and destroys your entothelial cells and results in heart disease. Meat... don't even get me started with the list. Eating animals destroys your health, the environment, and life. You defeat the purpose of the "diet". Sheesh....just keep it simple and eat whole plant based food....lots of it. The best for health and yummy.

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sidsmom — Fri, 22 Feb 2019 17:55:42 GMT

@phoenixbrd wrote:
This "diet" is so wrong. Actually will create inflammation and toxicity....another gimmick. I agree with no dairy/eggs, processed food, and sugar...common sense that most of us are aware of. A diet of oil and meat....that's a ticket to the nursing home, Oil clogs your arteries and destroys your entothelial cells and results in heart disease. Meat... don't even get me started with the list. Eating animals destroys your health, the environment, and life. You defeat the purpose of the "diet". Sheesh....just keep it simple and eat whole plant based food....lots of it. The best for health and yummy.

@phoenixbrd

Yes! My Leafy Sister singin’ the song!

A friend of mine was having some autoimmune issues & we research

Dr. Brooke Goldner’s ‘Goodbye Lupus’ protocol. Her husband also

promotes this diet for boosting metabolism & rapid athletic recovery,

so I decided to do it with her.

-TONS of greens & raw veg/fruit

-96oz of water

-Lots of Omega 3 (chia/flax)

-Exercise, if able.

They promote incorporating the greens/fruit/water/omega3 in form of a smoothie, for convenience. They encourage at least 64oz or more of this geeen smoothie everyday. That would be approximately a pound/1.5lb of raw greens every day...and up to a cup of Omega 3 every day. Rest of calories would be raw veg/tofu/potatoes. I’m not going crazy w/ the chia/flax but they sure do fill you up. My friend just started this, so I’m hoping she sees positive results. Perfect time of the year w/ all the

fresh fruit coming into season.

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Julie_23 — Fri, 22 Feb 2019 18:04:44 GMT

How funny @sidsmom , I was literally JUST reading more about Dr. Goldner's protocol this week (even some this morning)!! I too am considering trying it. You and your friend won't be alone. . Were you doing the 4 week version (hyper-nourishing protocol)?

You already supplied helpful details, but if anyone else is interested there is a PDF of the details searchable on google. It has some before/afters as well.

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haddon9 — Fri, 22 Feb 2019 18:12:07 GMT

Actually my husband follows this diet. Yes it's very strict and he can drive me crazy with it! However he believes that it's an anti inflammatory way of eating for his autoimmune illness.

Has it helped with his disease? Not really sure about that but he's pretty fit...slim, excellent blood pressure & cholesterol. He's been eating like this for several years.

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phoenixbrd — Fri, 22 Feb 2019 18:32:42 GMT

@sidsmom That's our lifestyle, right there in your post. Omega 3s are tricky...very critical for brain health and not so easy to obtain. Avocados have 3s, but the ratio of 3s to 6s is out of whack. I also include hemp seeds in our salads or include them in the dressings I make.

I share your feelings about supplements, but since my husband's surgeries 6 years ago I do everything within my power to ameliorate inflamation/pain. I study everything possible to assuage this demon. I looked at lots of 3 supplements and almost all contain undesirable ingredients. I have been including one by Nested...you might want to mention to your friends (but, again, ours is a special situation and not necessary for most). Also, I've found the smoothie route the best for the flax/chia omega 3 uptake.

What your friends are eating is our way of life. Sometimes I just have to shake my head...it is so easy to just consume plants. I wish your friends recovery and stellar health ! I love this way of life...whether dealing with critical health intervention or seeking an optimum way of life. Love ya sis....I'll check out Goldner's book.

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sidsmom — Fri, 22 Feb 2019 18:21:38 GMT

@Julie_23 wrote:

How funny @sidsmom , I was literally JUST reading more about Dr. Goldner's protocol this week (even some this morning)!! I too am considering trying it. You and your friend won't be alone. . Were you doing the 4 week version (hyper-nourishing protocol)?

You already supplied helpful details, but if anyone else is interested there is a PDF of the details searchable on google. It has some before/afters as well.

@Julie_23

Yep, the Hyper-Nourishing protocol!

I got Thomas Tadlock (her husband) book Miracle Metabolism

but their website, ‘Smoothie Shred’ has everything free.

Weird thing...way back in the mid-2000s, I was accidentally kinda was

doing this when I was dipping my toes into raw vegan.

I remember drinking a huge green smoothie w/ flax meal every day

at work & having a 32oz container of water...w/ another container

for workout later that evening. Lots of water & leafy greens.

I normally use 2T (1/4 cup-ish) of chia in my oatmeal today,

but i try & increase it adding another 1/4cup in my smoothies.

I definitely can see losing weight...those smoothies fill me up...

and I was not drinking near enough water. All that is so good for us.

Let’s see where this takes us!

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LTT1 — Fri, 22 Feb 2019 18:26:25 GMT

@haddon9

Do you fix the recipes?

one person said she couldn’t do the diet anymore b/c she was tired of only eating meat and vegetables? Ok

Potatoes are not allowed due to the fact that they are in the nightshade group of vegetables.

No sugar/dairy/yogurt (it is dairy)nuts except Brazil nuts and cashews

it leaves me wondering what one CAN eat

Really, it doesn’t allow for very much red meat either

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haddon9 — Fri, 22 Feb 2019 18:36:37 GMT

@LTT1 wrote:
@haddon9

Do you fix the recipes?

one person said she couldn’t do the diet anymore b/c she was tired of only eating meat and vegetables? Ok

Potatoes are not allowed due to the fact that they are in the nightshade group of vegetables.

No sugar/dairy/yogurt (it is dairy)nuts except Brazil nuts and cashews

it leaves me wondering what one CAN eat

Really, it doesn’t allow for very much red meat either

@LTT1 No I don't. Once a week or so I'll make a roast which we'll eat together. In the summer we'll grill food that we both eat. Most of the time though he makes his own meals and eats a lot of salmon, shrimp, beef, pork, avocados & fermented veggies. I think it sounds disgusting and I tell him so. However he believes in it.

He also has been drinking deuterium depleted water which he believes will help with inflammation. I really couldn't tell you much about it but to google it if you're interested.

ETA: tomatoes, peppers & eggplant are also nightshades in addition to potatoes.

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phoenixbrd — Fri, 22 Feb 2019 18:48:18 GMT

@sidsmom Yes, my protocol with 80-10-10 and Tanny Raw in the past always included a smoothie. I'm joining you on this journey. I think everything is in place to follow Dr. Goldner. Thanks, for the reminder and additional research source.

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LTT1 — Fri, 22 Feb 2019 19:01:58 GMT

@haddon9

Thank you this makes it sound doable!

The fermented veggies just sound awful to me too but maybe this is because I am unfamiliar.

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phoenixbrd — Fri, 22 Feb 2019 20:19:14 GMT

@LTT1 I don't support the AIP Diet, but highly recommend fermented veggies. I always include a scoop of sauerkraut or Kim chi in our daily salad for microbiome probiotic health and it is yummy. ( I always make sure they contain no meat/fish product...have to read the labels carefully.)

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morganjen — Fri, 22 Feb 2019 21:11:37 GMT

I did for two years for my Hashimoto's. It definitely helped. It's very hard to stick with, though.

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sfnative — Fri, 22 Feb 2019 22:06:14 GMT

@phoenixbrd wrote:
This "diet" is so wrong. Actually will create inflammation and toxicity....another gimmick. I agree with no dairy/eggs, processed food, and sugar...common sense that most of us are aware of. A diet of oil and meat....that's a ticket to the nursing home, Oil clogs your arteries and destroys your entothelial cells and results in heart disease. Meat... don't even get me started with the list. Eating animals destroys your health, the environment, and life. You defeat the purpose of the "diet". Sheesh....just keep it simple and eat whole plant based food....lots of it. The best for health and yummy.

@phoenixbrd

I abhor generalized statements.

If meat destroys ones health, why are there any humans remaining on earth?

(It's "endothelial" and I don't buy it.)

@LTT1

The Anti-Inflammation Diet and Recipe Book, Jessica K. Black, N.D., Hunter House Inc., has been my go-to for some time now. Was introduced to me by my daughter and came to her via our Naturopath.

The chapters: Why an Anti-Inflammation Diet?; Modern Health Paradigms; Inflammation: What's the Big Deal?: The Importance of Diet; The Anti-Inflammation Diet; How to Use This Book; Recipes (divided into 9 sections0; plus an appendix/substitution chart, references , online resources and index. Can't recommend it enough.

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LTT1 — Fri, 22 Feb 2019 22:57:04 GMT

@sfnative

Oh thank you for the book recommendation!

Cannot wait to read it...so much to learn....

Have started reading this one❤️

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sidsmom — Fri, 22 Feb 2019 23:28:05 GMT

@phoenixbrd wrote:

What your friends are eating is our way of life. Sometimes I just have to shake my head...it is so easy to just consume plants. I wish your friends recovery and stellar health ! I love this way of life...whether dealing with critical health intervention or seeking an optimum way of life. Love ya sis....I'll check out Goldner's book.

@phoenixbrd

Watch the video I posted about Dr. G...in the Dr. G active thread.

She expresses her love of a plant based diet..very touching.