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Keto Diet Again

chessylady — Thu, 16 Aug 2018 04:45:20 GMT

Some of my relatives are on this diet. I remember years ago, buying pee sticks to know when you were in the right range. I don't plan to do it, I am at lifetime at Weight Watchers. Are you doing keto? How much have you lost?

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Junker2327 — Thu, 16 Aug 2018 04:47:55 GMT

Rleading up on this now. My niece is on it and has lot 38 lbs so far just since june.

Beckyblu

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chessylady — Thu, 16 Aug 2018 04:57:42 GMT

There is a documentary called The Magic Pill on Netflix (I think, haven't see it). I think it is about this diet and other things.

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kjae — Thu, 16 Aug 2018 07:47:15 GMT

I cannot do the keto diet. Have chronic kidney disease and even Lindora would only let me use a very modified diet (which did not work). I never went into ketosis because I could not healthwise.

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Chicagosuburbangirl — Thu, 16 Aug 2018 09:40:03 GMT

Keto/Atkins, yes.

Down 25 lbs.

My upside, and not suggesting anyone else's, less gastrointestinal issues, acid reflux, no more acne, no shaky sugar lows.

This diet, as others have mentioned for many reasons, is not for everyone.

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sidsmom — Thu, 16 Aug 2018 11:03:03 GMT

No.

Of course not.

Not only is it ineffective for long-term results, increases mortality rate.

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Goldengate8361 — Thu, 16 Aug 2018 12:41:41 GMT

Everyone should be on this diet. Science backs it up as a very healthy lifestyle to adopt for the long term. I feel sorry for people who don’t know this.

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sidsmom — Thu, 16 Aug 2018 12:57:20 GMT

@Goldengate8361 wrote:
Everyone should be on this diet. Science backs it up as a very healthy lifestyle to adopt for the long term. I feel sorry for people who don’t know this.

Science?

Don’t think so.

Really wanna pull that thread?

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hckynut — Thu, 16 Aug 2018 14:59:01 GMT

@chessylady

Unless I am mistaken, this is a low/no carbohydrate "diet". This form of eating, in my opinion, should be left to those that have a medical reason to monitor their carb intake. From my own experiences with physical fitness, this would be/actually is, counterproductive, a mistake.

My fitness levels over many decades would have suffered, along with my energy levels, with a low/no carb intake. For me it is not someone's conjecture or scientific study, it is a fact proven by many laboratory Maximum Physical Fitness Testing, done by myself. All done while on my normal level(high complex carb) intake.

One does not a get to a HIGH physical fitness level without putting in a lot of intensive/strenuous exercising. For myself, without this high Complex Carb Intake, these high levels of Physical Fitness would been impossible to achieve, and which I have presently achieved, even now at my advanced age level.

Weight problem? The only times I have been unhappy with my "scale weight" numbers was when I was recovering from life/death health issues. Those many years greatly reduced my ability to exercise at levels conducive to maintaining any body weight I chose for myself. To, and for me, Complex Carbs were/are my pathway, at all ages, to excellent Physical Fitness levels. These levels translate into "every thing in my life being much easier to do", and even when it involved several tough mental issues encountered on life's path.

hckynut(john)

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151949 — Thu, 16 Aug 2018 14:48:36 GMT

VERY very very unhealthy

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sidsmom — Thu, 16 Aug 2018 15:03:27 GMT

@hckynut

Hear! Hear!

Medical reason to monitor carbohydrate intake?

There really isn’t one.

Our bodies & our brain runs off of glucose.

The keto thing is looow intake of carbohydrates..like 30grams.

I would think a Doctor, an ethical doctor with just a nano-second

of morals, would HIGHLY discourage their patients to not consume

a low carbohydrate diet....but those patients pay for the doctor’s

vacation home in Aspen, so....prescribe away.

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hckynut — Thu, 16 Aug 2018 15:21:22 GMT

@sidsmom

"Medical reason to monitor carbohydrate intake? There really isn't one".

I will leave that up to those that are diabetic to respond. Way out of my expertise level.

hckynut(john)

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sidsmom — Thu, 16 Aug 2018 15:30:49 GMT

@hckynut wrote:

@sidsmom

"Medical reason to monitor carbohydrate intake? There really isn't one".

I will leave that up to those that are diabetic to respond. Way out of my expertise level.

hckynut(john)

@hckynut

Type 2 Diabetes is caused by the intake of fat, not carbohydrates.

If the fat remains in the muscle/liver, there’s no way a body can

utilize the carbohydrates introduced. Short term benefits of low-carb

gives the diabetic false-hope...but the long-term harm is profound.

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AnnMarie-1 — Thu, 16 Aug 2018 15:50:20 GMT

@sidsmom wrote:
@hckynut wrote:

@sidsmom

"Medical reason to monitor carbohydrate intake? There really isn't one".

I will leave that up to those that are diabetic to respond. Way out of my expertise level.

hckynut(john)
@hckynut
Type 2 Diabetes is caused by the intake of fat, not carbohydrates.
If the fat remains in the muscle/liver, there’s no way a body can
utilize the carbohydrates introduced. Short term benefits of low-carb
gives the diabetic false-hope...but the long-term harm is profound.

Very interesting @hckynut , I do have too much fat in my diet, and need to cut back on the high fat condiments, my weakness, butter, blue cheese dressing, etc

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AnnMarie-1 — Thu, 16 Aug 2018 15:51:36 GMT

I had salsa on my sweet potato the other night, takes getting used to not having that yummy butter all over it

LOL

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QueenDanceALot — Thu, 16 Aug 2018 15:58:18 GMT

@Goldengate8361 wrote:
Everyone should be on this diet. Science backs it up as a very healthy lifestyle to adopt for the long term. I feel sorry for people who don’t know this.

@Goldengate8361

Would you provide links to the science, please?

I would be interested in looking at it.

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sidsmom — Thu, 16 Aug 2018 16:03:51 GMT

@QueenDanceALot wrote:
@Goldengate8361 wrote:
Everyone should be on this diet. Science backs it up as a very healthy lifestyle to adopt for the long term. I feel sorry for people who don’t know this.
@Goldengate8361

Would you provide links to the science, please?

I would be interested in looking at it.

@QueenDanceALot

Y.e.s!

I would add...links to the science and/or studies which are not

funded/sponsored by the animal industries (meat industry, milk council,

egg board, etc).

Yes, there will be

crickets.

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hckynut — Thu, 16 Aug 2018 16:23:09 GMT

@sidsmom

I will stick with what I know works for me. Don't have a degree as a Nutritionist, nor any background as a dietitian, so have at it! Will express only things I have read and things I know from my own life experiences.

I try my best to stay away from speculating, and NO, that comment is not directed at you.

hckynut(john)

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cherry — Thu, 16 Aug 2018 16:45:36 GMT

Anyone with diabetes needs to monitor what they eat carefully. We are not all the same and some of us make more insulin than others

Go the the American Diabetes association website ,and let them steer you in the right direction. Talk to your Dr and ask to be sent to a nutritionist. They will all tell you carbs are not your friend ,and they are in everything ,but protein

Fruits and Vegs are both filled with carbs, some have more than others. Flour and grain products are also filled with carbs ,along with dairy products

So ,if you are hungry ,a bit of protein( meat, fish, eggs, nuts) is your best choice. We have a diabetes thread here ,and if you have questions feel free to ask ,and someone will help with an answer

Your health is your wealth, so don't squander it, by taking advice that can hurt you

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sidsmom — Thu, 16 Aug 2018 16:56:39 GMT

And taking advice from someone who has T2 Diabetes is not the best advice....especially since it is known T2 Diabetes can not only be

prevented, but reversed, as well.

Intramyocellular Lipids causes Insulin Resistance.

Simple explanation.

Simple resolve...remove the fats.