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Has anyone read the Plant Paradox?

Nadine — Sat, 04 Aug 2018 01:41:30 GMT

Started reading it today and it's so different from anything I've read. All about lectins in food.

Re: Has anyone read the Plant Paradox?

sidsmom — Sat, 04 Aug 2018 01:55:02 GMT

Yep, I have.

About a month ago, there was a thread posted here about the same topic.

I’ll post the same opinion:

“I’m not vegetarian but Plant Based.

The lectin angle is just another Low Carb diet recarnated.

Cooked beans are the cornerstone of many cultures thoroughout

the World throughout generations. The vitamins/minerals/fiber

are an important part of prevention/reversal of heart disease,

diabetes, cancers, obesity, etc...it’s stunning to see someone to

promote NOT eating them...makes one think ‘WhatAreYouThinking??’

On his ‘no’ list, he calls potatoes a ‘refined’ food. Huh?

It’s really not a mystery of what is good for us.

A plant based whole food diet, low in fat, is the diet the

longest living people have been eating for 1,000s & 1,000s of years.

All the info is out there to guide us, free of charge.

Dr. Michael Greger (nutritionfacts.org) did several videos

(all on YouTube) about lectin & the Plant Paradox, specifically.

Here is the transcript of that particular video.”

https://youtu.be/7NT4q_5dfLs

Re: Has anyone read the Plant Paradox?

phoenixbrd — Sat, 04 Aug 2018 01:57:42 GMT

" Lectins are not only present in plant foods; they are ubiquitous in ... There is one lectin known to cause temporary gastrointestinal distress in humans, ... But this does not mean that lectins are harmful for the general population."...Dr. Fuhrman

There is a lot of confusion regarding lectins....depends on who you are reading and believing. Take a look at Dr. Greger on You Tube.

Re: Has anyone read the Plant Paradox?

GingerPeach — Sat, 04 Aug 2018 02:03:22 GMT

In the Plant Paradox cookbook, he does NOT say don't eat beans. What he explains is that they are made more digestible once they are pressure-cooked.

On a related note, if anyone is interested, Amy's Kitchen pressure-cooks their beans in the can. Anyone can contact any company that offers beans to find out whether that company does the same.

Re: Has anyone read the Plant Paradox?

sidsmom — Sat, 04 Aug 2018 02:11:36 GMT

@GingerPeach wrote:
In the Plant Paradox cookbook, he does NOT say don't eat beans. What he explains is that they are made more digestible once they are pressure-cooked.

That’s interesting.

His book, published 04/2017, said beans were not allowed.

Today, his cookbook, published 04/2018, is starting to

change direction to say beans are OK...only a year later.

What’s it going to be next year? Depends on what’s trending.

Re: Has anyone read the Plant Paradox?

Ifeelwicked — Sat, 04 Aug 2018 07:38:37 GMT

Just want to say no one’s ‘eating plan’ is perfect for everyone. Some expert’s advise may appeal to some, but not all. Different strokes, as they say. We, as adults, are more than capable of deciding what works for us and what doesn’t. Beans? No beans? etc. I’ll gather all the facts and decide FOR MYSELF. (Also, how much, if anything, I am willing to spend on supplements. I’ll decide!) For me, personally, I do very well following a low carb plan. (I love sweets! So, not considering them a food group is best FOR ME. 🤐) I love hearing success stories. And seeing a VERY slimmed down Kelly Clarkson peaked my interest as to what “clicked” for her. (She has said over and over, weight is not the issue. Feeling healthier is.) Kelly followed The Plant Paradox. Like I said earlier.......different strokes. 😊

Re: Has anyone read the Plant Paradox?

Nadine — Sat, 04 Aug 2018 15:05:47 GMT

Appreciate the replies. The diet is very restrictive and when he says a month after being on the people one person for example was totally off all of her meds, I find that so hard to believe. I"m just so much on the fence. I've read good reviews from people who have done the plan and reviews from other Dr's that just rip it apart. I would sure like to see a review from someone on here for example that was on the plan and I knew wasn't being paid to give a positive review.

Re: Has anyone read the Plant Paradox?

sidsmom — Sat, 04 Aug 2018 16:49:19 GMT

@Nadine wrote:
Appreciate the replies. The diet is very restrictive and when he says a month after being on the people one person for example was totally off all of her meds, I find that so hard to believe. I"m just so much on the fence. I've read good reviews from people who have done the plan and reviews from other Dr's that just rip it apart. I would sure like to see a review from someone on here for example that was on the plan and I knew wasn't being paid to give a positive review.

@Nadine

Out of curiousity, why are uou r.e.a.l.l.y wanting to find a

positive response? You can throw a stick & hit a dozen low-carb type

of diets...including this one. Why is this one being singled out?

Re: Has anyone read the Plant Paradox?

GingerPeach — Sat, 04 Aug 2018 17:47:01 GMT

@sidsmom wrote:
@Nadine wrote:
Appreciate the replies. The diet is very restrictive and when he says a month after being on the people one person for example was totally off all of her meds, I find that so hard to believe. I"m just so much on the fence. I've read good reviews from people who have done the plan and reviews from other Dr's that just rip it apart. I would sure like to see a review from someone on here for example that was on the plan and I knew wasn't being paid to give a positive review.

@Nadine
Out of curiousity, why are uou r.e.a.l.l.y wanting to find a
positive response? You can throw a stick & hit a dozen low-carb type
of diets...including this one. Why is this one being singled out?

@Nadine

I was wondering the same thing. The eating plans available now are innumerable and often even overlap.

It really doesn't matter what works for someone else, you will do better finding what works for you depending on your goal: weight loss, living more comfortably with an auto-immune condition, respect for animals, etc.

Whatever your goal is, start there.

@sidsmom

Re: Has anyone read the Plant Paradox?

Ifeelwicked — Sat, 04 Aug 2018 19:12:21 GMT

I say we SUPPORT each other on our journeys to get healthier, no matter what plan we follow. No judging, or questioning “WHY”, no picking apart other posters, and most of all, NO BASHING one plan/Dr. over another!! I’d love to here everyone’s success stories and how they accomplished their goal, whatever that may be. Far more positive and productive. Have a wonderful weekend everybody🌷🌸🌷

Re: Has anyone read the Plant Paradox?

Nadine — Sat, 04 Aug 2018 19:33:29 GMT

thanks ifeelwicked. I felt a little backed into a cornor feeling that I needed to defend myself for asking about this book. My question was out of curiosity and wondering if anyne had tried this way of eating. My hubby has some medical issues and I wondered if it could help him. I know there are many food plans out there and some work for some and not others. Not sure what this forum is all about and if this wasn't where I should have asked about the book.

Re: Has anyone read the Plant Paradox?

hckynut — Sat, 04 Aug 2018 19:35:54 GMT

@Nadine

I haven't read all the posts here, but! A comment like "off all meds"? That alone would be reason enough for me to consider it another fantasy way of eating by yet another expert(?)

Realizing there are many "out there" that poo poo meds, I also realize many of them probably do not need them to stay healthy/physically fit, and much more important, alive!

For me personally, my searches for what is best for me changed over my many decades of life. During each time period of my very active lifestyle, I have been able to find what foods allow my body to function close to it's maximum, not by adhering to any 1 expert(?) philosophy, but my own.

Genetics play a bigger role in a persons health than many care to recognize, and I won't get into that in this post's topic. I am on several meds, that for me to once again live my very active lifestyle, at the advanced age of 79, tells me once again, what I am doing is the best for me, but not one I would ever suggest to others.

hckynut(john)

Re: Has anyone read the Plant Paradox?

hckynut — Sat, 04 Aug 2018 19:44:49 GMT

@Ifeelwicked wrote:
I say we SUPPORT each other on our journeys to get healthier, no matter what plan we follow. No judging, or questioning “WHY”, no picking apart other posters, and most of all, NO BASHING one plan/Dr. over another!! I’d love to here everyone’s success stories and how they accomplished their goal, whatever that may be. Far more positive and productive. Have a wonderful weekend everybody🌷🌸🌷

@Ifeelwicked

I agree. I have said on this forum, for many years, that 1 size does not fit all! For the most part, I have also said what has worked for me. What worked for me changed based during different circumstances of my life. I fortunately have been able to find what works best for my body, and mind, by continually using trial and error to find those answers, but for myself exclusively, not anyone else.

You have a great weekend also,

hckynut(john)

Re: Has anyone read the Plant Paradox?

Ifeelwicked — Sat, 04 Aug 2018 20:04:46 GMT

@hckynut wrote:
@Ifeelwicked wrote:
I say we SUPPORT each other on our journeys to get healthier, no matter what plan we follow. No judging, or questioning “WHY”, no picking apart other posters, and most of all, NO BASHING one plan/Dr. over another!! I’d love to here everyone’s success stories and how they accomplished their goal, whatever that may be. Far more positive and productive. Have a wonderful weekend everybody🌷🌸🌷

@Ifeelwicked

I agree. I have said on this forum, for many years, that 1 size does not fit all! For the most part, I have also said what has worked for me. What worked for me changed based during different circumstances of my life. I fortunately have been able to find what works best for my body, and mind, by continually using trial and error to find those answers, but for myself exclusively, not anyone else.

You have a great weekend also,

hckynut(john)

YOU GET IT!!! 🎉 I finally did, too!! And it took me a LONG

time to realize it was ok to allow myself a cheat day or two.

(Dinner at Krispy Kreme, anyone?😂) Also, no matter what plan

I follow, Coffee-mate is a non-negotiable! (There is no such

thing, in my world, as coffee without it☕️) A couple simple

allowances made all the difference (for me.)

We’re all in this together, just different paths. Continued

success❣️

Re: Has anyone read the Plant Paradox?

Ifeelwicked — Sat, 04 Aug 2018 21:45:43 GMT

@Nadine wrote:
thanks ifeelwicked. I felt a little backed into a cornor feeling that I needed to defend myself for asking about this book. My question was out of curiosity and wondering if anyne had tried this way of eating. My hubby has some medical issues and I wondered if it could help him. I know there are many food plans out there and some work for some and not others. Not sure what this forum is all about and if this wasn't where I should have asked about the book.

My pleasure! I will tell you, me personally, I cannot wait to read his book and I also

bought his cookbook. I buy a lot of new books in this category bc it has been a huge

part of my own story since I was 7. Anyway, I have watched several

interviews with Dr. Gundry and I am quite impressed! GO FOR IT, I say! You

sound like a very caring wife. I wish you and your hubby good luck! And never forget

back in the day when Dr. Atkins was considered a nut and panned by nearly

everyone in the medical community? My how times have changed. And thank

goodness❣️

Re: Has anyone read the Plant Paradox?

Nadine — Sat, 04 Aug 2018 21:48:02 GMT

MY big thing is sugar, if I stay away from it most of the time I do ok. I really don't want my main purpose in life to be deciding what to eat. Coffee is a mainstay, won't ever give it up.A glass of wine here and there is good.Krispy cream? oh yeah! lol

Re: Has anyone read the Plant Paradox?

sidsmom — Sun, 05 Aug 2018 01:53:54 GMT

Psssst:

Everyone in the medical community still considers

Dr. Atkins’ work as ‘questionable’ or your word, ‘nut’.

Especially what we know now.

Any doctor prescribing a low-carbohydrate nutritional plan

definitely doesn’t have the patient’s best interest in mind.

Re: Has anyone read the Plant Paradox?

LTT1 — Sun, 05 Aug 2018 11:40:37 GMT

@Nadine @sidsmom @Ifeelwicked @hckynut @GingerPeach

I was eating salmon for lunch every day. Other than a baked potato for dinner, my IBS would not allow me to digest anything.

Except I have been able to eat avocado some days instead of salmon.

My GI doctor did my every-two-year colonoscopy, and low and behold, my tail-bone pain is gone. (another story)

Our DD and DSIL have been sticking with keto diets [my opinion is left out]

GI doctor said I need to eat more fiber. So I purchased a HUGE stalk and I’m snacking on it all day whenever I think about it.

GI sent home literature:

eat green leafies (salad) 6/week

Eat nuts (almonds) 5/da

Eat 6/da servings fruits/veggies

Chicken/fish 3x/wk

wine 1 glass/day

and then a chart detailing the amount of fiber in each type of food...kidney beans had highest.

i have been having trouble with gluten and have been avoiding it mostly for 3 years. Allergy test was negative.

The avocados did not make me fat or feel bloated.

They were easy to digest.

Re: Has anyone read the Plant Paradox?

LTT1 — Sun, 05 Aug 2018 14:47:59 GMT

@Nadine @sidsmom @Ifeelwicked @hckynut @GingerPeach

Part of what I remembered is called the MENTAL diet: