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Feeling better without supplements

LCR — Tue, 17 Apr 2018 20:57:25 GMT

I recently stopped taking vitamins and other supplements and have noticed that I feel and look a lot better without them. Anyone else like this?

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Pook — Tue, 17 Apr 2018 21:00:56 GMT

Not me! I have noticed so much difference with the supplements I take.

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Harpa — Tue, 17 Apr 2018 21:03:01 GMT

Boy, I drag if I don't take mine!

I keep thinking which one/s can I really do without?

What were you taking, @LCR?

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VaBelle35 — Tue, 17 Apr 2018 21:07:13 GMT

No me. I took a month off of everything and first started feeling it in my joints.

I added those back in first.

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RoughDraft — Tue, 17 Apr 2018 21:11:13 GMT

No way!

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webbgarner1 — Tue, 17 Apr 2018 21:12:11 GMT

@LCR as most of you guys probably know, vitamins are not regulated by the FDA. They can have side effects toxic effects such as toxicity to the liver.

Also companies often make claims that simply are not true . . Even folks one may think is a reputable person, so a lot of folks thought initially with Dr Oz. Also you can never really be sure about the integrity of the product.. Wonder how much money Oprah, Dr Oz and Dr Phil made off of junk science and quackery. She is the reason for their rise to " fame" Although I suppose Dr Oz is still a cardiologist., he seems to have toned it down after having to testify befor Congress about making false claims about weight loss supplements. However, it forever tarnished his creditability.

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LCR — Tue, 17 Apr 2018 21:15:34 GMT

Alternating -- on Mon., Wed and Fri, I would take a multi-vitamin/mineral supplement, fish oil, extra biotin (for hair, skin, nails), extra C and calciukm (for osteoporosis). On Tues., Thurs. and Sat., I'd take resveratrol, turmeric (for inflammation), special eye vitamins (for seniors), C and calcium. I'd take Sundays off. Doesn't seem like too much to me, but maybe it was.

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SilleeMee — Tue, 17 Apr 2018 21:16:08 GMT

No. I tried that once. Never again.

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SilleeMee — Tue, 17 Apr 2018 21:27:26 GMT

@webbgarner1 wrote:
@LCR as most of you guys probably know, vitamins are not regulated by the FDA. They can have side effects toxic effects such as toxicity to the liver.
Also companies often make claims that simply are not true . . Even folks one may think is a reputable person, so a lot of folks thought initially with Dr Oz. Also you can never really be sure about the integrity of the product.. Wonder how much money Oprah, Dr Oz and Dr Phil made off of junk science and quackery. She is the reason for their rise to " fame" Although I suppose Dr Oz is still a cardiologist., he seems to have toned it down after having to testify befor Congress about making false claims about weight loss supplements. However, it forever tarnished his creditability.

This is incorrect. Supplements are FDA regulated.

https://www.fda.gov/Food/DietarySupplements/

Supplements are a subcategory of the Food section. Supplements have their own set of regulations, different from the Food section.

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Mom2Dogs — Tue, 17 Apr 2018 21:36:37 GMT

I don't take any supplemets, I am lucky...exellent health...well some back issues but right now no complaints.

Biotin is something I am thinking about, my nail are a mess.

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cotton4me — Tue, 17 Apr 2018 21:50:29 GMT

I’m the opposite. I feel better when I take certain supplements.

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SeaMaiden — Tue, 17 Apr 2018 22:44:58 GMT

Nope. I take handfulls of supplements and will continue to do so. To each his own as everyones body is different.

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tsavorite — Wed, 18 Apr 2018 00:05:53 GMT

hmmm I can honestly say so far I haven't taken a supplement that I notice any physical improvements. NOW with that said my labs show my vit d level to be excellent and I am positive that supplement with it has done this as before when I didn't take it I was deficient!

I take supplements that are for bone health....and just began taking a fish oil supplement that I forgot I had...I know LOL!

Oh I just ordered 2 from AL the other day....UES and his Night time sleep one....I am hoping that both of these give me some results.

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blackhole99 — Wed, 18 Apr 2018 00:26:42 GMT

I couldn't imagine not taking vitamins and supplements. As long as I can afford taking high quality product, I will continue.

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Carmie — Wed, 18 Apr 2018 00:50:22 GMT

I don’t take vitamins or supplements, though my eye doctor has recommended an eye supplement for me.

i am more worried about liver damage than anything else.

i am extremely healthy and eat well, so I don’t feel I need them.

Most of what people take is excreted out anyway.

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Elri — Wed, 18 Apr 2018 00:58:56 GMT

I think I'm alive simply to digest all the stuff I take.

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Snowpuppy — Wed, 18 Apr 2018 01:39:38 GMT

All supplements are not created equal and they are often reformulated.

If you have difficulty then discontinuing, give your body a rest and add them back in, one at a time. Also buying a single ingredient supplement without other ingredients can give you a chance to see what may not be sitting well.

I have an auto immune disorder and many supplements backfire on me. Tumeric was one so I take Andrew's Omega 3's for joint pain. I can't take flax oil or flax seeds as they hit my estrogen receptors and I get PMS.

Take time to learn what your body responds to.

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hildyjohnson — Wed, 18 Apr 2018 02:21:45 GMT

This article is very long but worth reading imho.

A segment:

11/8/17

Vitamins and supplements are unregulated and potentially dangerous

businessinsider.com/supplements-vitamins-bad-or-good-health-2017-8

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" .....After spending the last few months of her pregnancy and the first few weeks of her new baby's life in isolation, Jamshidi's patient was able to go home and be with her family. Jamshidi said the experience changed the way he thought about supplements for good.

"I feel very negatively about them, and I didn't feel this way going into it," he said.

Ask Steven Tave, the director of the office of dietary supplement programs at the FDA, why the agency isn't stopping more similar situations, and he'll give a simple answer: "We're doing the best we can.".....

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Tave said that before [1994] DSHEA passed, the FDA was starting to regulate supplements more stringently, the way it does pharmaceutical drugs, but getting "pushback from the industry."

The law forced the agency to be more lenient.

Before a new drug can be sold, the company making it has to apply for FDA approval, and the agency has to conclude that the drug is safe and does what it claims to do.

"So if the drug says, you know, 'used to treat cancer,' then the agency's reviewers are going to look at it and make a determination that there's evidence that it does treat cancer," Tave said.

New supplements don't face any burden of proof.

The agency can review products that add new dietary ingredients when it gets a notification, Tave said, but it doesn't "have the authority to stop anything from going to market."

When DSHEA was passed, Tave said, the bill still made sense.

In 1994, about 600 supplement companies were producing about 4,000 products for a total revenue of about $4 billion.

But that market has since ballooned — today, close to 6,000 companies pump out about 75,000 products.

"We're regulating that with 26 people and a budget of $5 million," Tave said.

Removing a supplement from store shelves comes down to documented emergency-room visits and calls to poison-control centers.

Only when a supplement is reported to be unsafe as a result of one of these "adverse events," as the FDA calls them, is the agency compelled to act.

"Most of the time, we don't know a product is on the market until we see something bad about it from an adverse-event report. It's a very different regime from when we know everything is out there and we know what's in it," Tave said, adding: "We don't want to be reactive. We want to be proactive. But we can't be."

'Consumers have no way to know'

Most unsafe supplements have been found to contain ingredients that aren't listed on their labels — usually, these are pharmaceutical drugs, some of which have been banned by the FDA.

A study of product recalls published in 2013 in the Journal of the American Medical Association found that of the 274 supplements recalled by the FDA between 2009 and 2012, all contained banned drugs.

A 2014 report found that more than two-thirds of the supplements purchased six months after being recalled still contained banned drugs.

"The products we see today have gone way beyond that sort of core group that they were in 1994," Tave said. "Now they're promoted for all sorts of things — some are long term, some are short term, some are chemicals no one's ever seen before. It's a much different universe than it was at the time.".....

....Consumers have no way to know that what's in the label is what's actually in the bottle or box," Austin said...."

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hildyjohnson — Wed, 18 Apr 2018 02:19:08 GMT

From the same article.

"...

The FDA defines supplements as products "intended to add further nutritional value to (supplement) the diet."

They aren't regulated as drugs — only when a supplement is shown to cause significant harm is it called out as unsafe.

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The findings on St. John's wort prompted the US Food and Drug Administration to warn doctors about the herbal remedy.

But that did little to stem public sale or consumption of it.

Over the past two decades, US poison-control centers have gotten about 275,000 reports

— roughly one every 24 minutes—

of people who reacted badly to supplements; a third of them were about herbal remedies like St. John's wort...."

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ALRATIBA — Wed, 18 Apr 2018 02:22:57 GMT

Supplements can really mess up your body chemistry. One of my aunts ended up in the hospital.