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Measles Outbreak

Noel7 — Sat, 07 Apr 2018 06:25:10 GMT

Six people in the SF Bay Area have come down with the measles. The first man caught it overseas in a country where it is prevalent.

None of the six people had been vaccinated. I hope none of them had been around babies or anyone with a weakened immune system.

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cherry — Sat, 07 Apr 2018 11:27:54 GMT

That lying Dr has a lot to answer for. Every time someone gets one of the diseases ,that vaccines can protect people from ,his name should be printed ,so everyone knows who started this mess....the anti vaxers not only hurt their children,they are subjecting them to all sorts of other health problems ,over something that isn't even true

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I am still oxox — Sat, 07 Apr 2018 11:50:21 GMT

@cherry

I understand what you are saying but there are people who are vaccinated to diseases and are not protected.

I have had both pneumonia shots and yet my body has not developed the immunity I have to have both shots again and wait to see if I am immune

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cherry — Sat, 07 Apr 2018 12:16:12 GMT

Good luck I hope this one works for you @I am still oxox

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151949 — Sat, 07 Apr 2018 14:11:00 GMT

More important - hope & pray they have not exposed anyone who is pregnant & not immune. Measels cause terrible birth defects.

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IMW — Sat, 07 Apr 2018 15:09:05 GMT

@cherry wrote:
That lying Dr has a lot to answer for. Every time someone gets one of the diseases ,that vaccines can protect people from ,his name should be printed ,so everyone knows who started this mess....the anti vaxers not only hurt their children,they are subjecting them to all sorts of other health problems ,over something that isn't even true

Totally agree, to not have children vaccinated is criminal. I remember having the measles, I was quite sick, my eyes couldn’t stand light etc.

Do these “ knowledgeable “ people remember measles.

In 30% of cases there are complications: inflammation of the brain, blindness etc.

I am not referring to the few who get the vaccine and still get the measles.

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Annabellethecat66 — Sat, 07 Apr 2018 15:18:54 GMT

As us Boomers get old(er) some of us (while still have SOME immunity) don't have as much as we used to.

I have IGG which means I don't have much immunity...period. I have to get transfusions that boost my immunity.

People who don't get the required shots for their children are my worst nightmare!

Here's what I think ..... I think if they don't want to get the required shots then they should be REQUIRED to not interact with any of the public. They should be made to be home-schooled and not be around society at all.

Why should the public have to risk their/our health just because they or their parents are ignorant?

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maestra — Sat, 07 Apr 2018 20:28:44 GMT

People are in our country who have not,or dont want to get vaccinations; part of living in an open society.

Yes, it puts many others at risk, especially the elderly and expectant mothers.

The most you can do is know your health issues and act accordingly.

Public schools in some regions of the country are having to deal with exposure to tuberculosis-terrifying prospect for everyone.

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Noel7 — Sat, 07 Apr 2018 21:47:12 GMT

@I am still oxox wrote:
@cherry

I understand what you are saying but there are people who are vaccinated to diseases and are not protected.

I have had both pneumonia shots and yet my body has not developed the immunity I have to have both shots again and wait to see if I am immune

@I am still oxox

The pneumoina vaccines protect against various types of pheumonia, you can still deveop pneumonia when ill from something like the flu.

We need the vaccine because:

There are two vaccines for pneumonia that protect against different types of the infection. PCV13 helps protect people from 13 of the most severe types of bacteria that cause pneumonia. PPSV23 protects against an additional 23 types of pneumonia bacteria.Dec 11, 2016

Pneumonia Vaccine: Should I Get It? - WebMD

https://www.webmd.com/lung/pneumococcal-vaccine-schedule

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Noel7 — Sat, 07 Apr 2018 21:51:18 GMT

@I am still oxox

I doubt we well ever be IMMUNE to all forms of pneumonia. Just look how many types there are already.

Science does the best it can but we can't control those who refuse vaccines, we can stay away from them, but who knows who they are or what they have handled in public or coughed on us.

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Annabellethecat66 — Sat, 07 Apr 2018 21:59:10 GMT

So, please refresh my memory. I'm 72 this year. I remember I had every disease known to man (an exaggeration, but not much of one).

Am I remembering right that back then we just got the measles's, mumps, chicken pox, you name it and then we had immunity to each one? Am I remembering correctly?

I even had Rheumatic Fever. My brother and I almost died on that one. It damaged my heart muscle.

I do remember that we had some kind of shot that formed a scab that kept us from getting something.

I'm going to go searching to find the answer to my questions......

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Noel7 — Sat, 07 Apr 2018 22:02:01 GMT

@Annabellethecat66 wrote:
So, please refresh my memory. I'm 72 this year. I remember I had every disease known to man (an exaggeration, but not much of one).

Am I remembering right that back then we just got the measles's, mumps, chicken pox, you name it and then we had immunity to each one? Am I remembering correctly?

I even had Rheumatic Fever. My brother and I almost died on that one. It damaged my heart muscle.

I do remember that we had some kind of shot that formed a scab that kept us from getting something.

I'm going to go searching to find the answer to my questions......

@Annabellethecat66

Some in the medical field say those of us who had those illnesses are protected. Others say our immunity is not as strong as it used to be, we need a booster.

You might want to ask your MD what is best for you.

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Carmie — Sat, 07 Apr 2018 22:47:39 GMT

@Annabellethecat66If you have had both types of measles, mumps and chickenpox, you are almost 100% guaranteed not to get them again. You do not need to be immunized from these diseases.

The “shot” that formed the scab was most likely for smallpox. Most older adults have a small scar on their upper arm or upper thigh from this vaccine. Some people who traveled a lot, might have had this vaccine more than once and more than one scar. The smallpox vaccine is no longer required.

I remember getting and having measles twice and chickenpox. I never had the mumps and I remember getting the smallpox immunization when I was really young.

For some reason unknown, I remember things that happened when I was young..even before my second birthday.

People that have not had the diseases, but were immunized instead might need to get a booster. Often they are required before students are allowed to move into college dorms.

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Junebug54 — Sun, 08 Apr 2018 00:27:03 GMT

@Annabellethecat66 Hi Annabelle... I think the one you are thinking of was for smallpox.. I could be wrong but I think it also left a scar in the shape of a circle ...

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Noel7 — Sun, 08 Apr 2018 00:38:40 GMT

@Carmie wrote:
@Annabellethecat66If you have had both types of measles, mumps and chickenpox, you are almost 100% guaranteed not to get them again. You do not need to be immunized from these diseases.

The “shot” that formed the scab was most likely for smallpox. Most older adults have a small scar on their upper arm or upper thigh from this vaccine. Some people who traveled a lot, might have had this vaccine more than once and more than one scar. The smallpox vaccine is no longer required.

I remember getting and having measles twice and chickenpox. I never had the mumps and I remember getting the smallpox immunization when I was really young.

For some reason unknown, I remember things that happened when I was young..even before my second birthday.

People that have not had the diseases, but were immunized instead might need to get a booster. Often they are required before students are allowed to move into college dorms.

@Carmie

According to some researchers and doctors, that is NOT true. @Annabellethecat66 should ask her own doctor.

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Carmie — Sun, 08 Apr 2018 02:00:01 GMT

@Noel7 can you show me where you got your information?

Everywhere I have looked and per information from my health care provider, there are two types of measles. Once you get them, you cannot get them again. If you have a mild form of chickenpox, you can get it again and it can return as shingles.

If you got the MMR vaccine, you might need a booster. I know for a fact that many colleges will not allow students to live in the dorms without a booster.

Health care providers can check to see if you have had the measles if you don’t know or remember. Once you have the antibodies from the actual disease, they last a lifetime.

A booster is not given or needed if you have had Measles or full blown Chickenpox.

I looked high and low and cannot find where this information is any different. If I am wrong or things have changed...where would I find it?

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Noel7 — Sun, 08 Apr 2018 02:30:04 GMT

@Carmie wrote:
@Noel7 can you show me where you got your information?

Everywhere I have looked and per information from my health care provider, there are two types of measles. Once you get them, you cannot get them again. If you have a mild form of chickenpox, you can get it again and it can return as shingles.

If you got the MMR vaccine, you might need a booster. I know for a fact that many colleges will not allow students to live in the dorms without a booster.

Health care providers can check to see if you have had the measles if you don’t know or remember. Once you have the antibodies from the actual disease, they last a lifetime.

A booster is not given or needed if you have had Measles or full blown Chickenpox.

I looked high and low and cannot find where this information is any different. If I am wrong or things have changed...where would I find it?

@Carmie

No, I can't show you because it was on a TV special report on the news. But I can tell you this, we are not supposed to make comments like this, "You do not need to be immunized from these diseases." A direct claim like that when she has a chronic immune system is not ok. It's not ok even if she didn't have a immune problem. Neither you nor I know what she needs or doesn't need.

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Carmie — Sun, 08 Apr 2018 03:27:55 GMT

@Noel7 of course everyone should check with their PCP. That is a given.

TV Special report on the News, huh? Well I guess it must be true then if you said so.

I have a doctors appointment this coming week, I will check with her and see what she says. I’ll bet you that she will concur with the CDC where my information came from.

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Noel7 — Mon, 09 Apr 2018 04:40:33 GMT

@Carmie wrote:
@Noel7 of course everyone should check with their PCP. That is a given.

TV Special report on the News, huh? Well I guess it must be true then if you said so.

I have a doctors appointment this coming week, I will check with her and see what she says. I’ll bet you that she will concur with the CDC where my information came from.

Do you really think the objection is over the booster shot or not? It isn’t @Carmie. It’s about you telling someone what she does or doesn’t need. You are not qualified to make decisions for someone with an autoimmune system problem. This is something she needs to ask her doctor about.

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Trinity11 — Mon, 09 Apr 2018 16:52:30 GMT

@Noel7 wrote:
@Carmie wrote:
@Noel7 of course everyone should check with their PCP. That is a given.

TV Special report on the News, huh? Well I guess it must be true then if you said so.

I have a doctors appointment this coming week, I will check with her and see what she says. I’ll bet you that she will concur with the CDC where my information came from.

Do you really think the objection is over the booster shot or not? It isn’t @Carmie. It’s about you telling someone what she does or doesn’t need. You are not qualified to make decisions for someone with an autoimmune system problem. This is something she needs to ask her doctor about.

@Noel7...I have noticed a trend lately in this forum of posters giving medical advice knowing nothing about the specifics of someone's individual needs only available to their personal physician.