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😮 Unbelievable! 😮

Mz iMac — Tue, 16 May 2017 21:18:34 GMT

Healthy student, 16, collapses and dies from heart problems after drinking a large Mountain Dew, a latte and an energy drink in the space of two hours

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fuzzball76 — Tue, 16 May 2017 21:23:50 GMT

Condolences. However, please don't let this start people freaking out. Congress starting a billion $$$$$ "comittee" to study cafeiine. Things happen. You cannot do anything anymore with a pc police getting involved. When your number is up, you can't argue. Some people live young, some live to 104. However, prayers to the family regardless.

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Kachina624 — Tue, 16 May 2017 21:35:52 GMT

@fuzzball76 wrote:
Condolences. However, please don't let this start people freaking out. Congress starting a billion $$$$$ "comittee" to study cafeiine. Things happen. You cannot do anything anymore with a pc police getting involved. When your number is up, you can't argue. Some people live young, some live to 104. However, prayers to the family regardless.

@fuzzball76 Are you trying to say, you can't cure stupid?

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dex — Tue, 16 May 2017 21:45:27 GMT

@Mz iMac I get that much caffeine each day ...two coffees and a double expressi within that time frame.I think the person must have had a heart problem or taken some medication that didn't work with caffeine.Maybe allergy meds.

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Mz iMac — Tue, 16 May 2017 21:49:03 GMT

@dex

According to the article, the child was "healthy."

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Nomorebirthdays — Tue, 16 May 2017 22:17:04 GMT

Sad, this has happened before. I can't imagine the pain of losing a child.

I think I'm immune to caffeine between the coffee and diet cola. I once drank a 5 hr. Energy once and took a nap.

That frat death at Penn State just keeps getting worse, some of the investigation is being told.

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Moonchilde — Wed, 17 May 2017 01:52:23 GMT

I honestly don't find it unbelievable at all - it's a disaster waiting to happen.

Do stupid things/make bad decisions, pay the price.

Could/should there be regulations so that energy drinks and high caffeine-high sugar drinks are not sold to those under 18? Quite likely. Would that solve the problem? Probably not. Kids get alcohol and drugs, both of which are illegal for them. They just need a supplier. And if a supplier is charged with manslaughter in a death - the person is still dead; nothing changes that.

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Plaid Pants2 — Wed, 17 May 2017 11:18:36 GMT

Some people are just more sensitive to caffeine than others.

One can be perfectly healthy, no heart problems, not taking any medications prescription or otc, or illegal drugs, and still od on caffeine.

Caffeine is considered to be a drug.

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Blingqueen023 — Wed, 17 May 2017 11:35:36 GMT

Yea? and you can walk across the street and get hit by a car too. I swear this forum is turning into the obits. Don't have to look at a paper anymore.

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jubilant — Wed, 17 May 2017 11:39:21 GMT

This is so tragic but I highly doubt it was the total cause of death. I ask myself ......"could he have been diabectic and didn't know it" and other questions. I have one grandson that watches his sugar and soda intake....the other one guzzles Mountain Dew and I am hoping he will curtail that soon as it does concern me. All you can do is try to tell them.....teenagers are going to do what they want when mom and dad aren't around. There is no way to avoid it except to teach them about nutrition and hope one day they remember.

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debic — Wed, 17 May 2017 11:48:37 GMT

Since the article didn't say more I'll assume he chugged them in a matter of minutes or even seconds. Drinking too much water like that will also kill you.

Sad for the parents.

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esmeraldagooch — Wed, 17 May 2017 14:59:56 GMT

Sad story. Every year kids get physicals and are allowed to enjoy sports. Some of these same kids drop dead on the field. Perhaps he had a underlying problem that caused his death.

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Plaid Pants2 — Wed, 17 May 2017 15:49:56 GMT

The article states that he had NO pre-existing heart conditions, and was otherwise healthy prior to his death.

Caffeine is a stimulant, and too much of it can cause heart problems, and even death, even in someone perfectly healthy with NO medical problems.

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Tinkrbl44 — Wed, 17 May 2017 16:34:52 GMT

@jubilant wrote:
This is so tragic but I highly doubt it was the total cause of death. I ask myself ......"could he have been diabectic and didn't know it" and other questions. I have one grandson that watches his sugar and soda intake....the other one guzzles Mountain Dew and I am hoping he will curtail that soon as it does concern me. All you can do is try to tell them.....teenagers are going to do what they want when mom and dad aren't around. There is no way to avoid it except to teach them about nutrition and hope one day they remember.

@jubilant

Talking about it on the news last night, the recommended amount of caffeine for teens should not exceed 100 mg per day. That kid ingested over 600 mg of caffeine in just a few hours!

Just fyi ..... a 12 oz can of Mountain Dew has 54 mg of caffeine! This is less about nutrition, and more about careless behavior. I hope you talk to him about this. JMO

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jubilant — Wed, 17 May 2017 20:40:13 GMT

@Tinkrbl44 wrote:
@jubilant wrote:
This is so tragic but I highly doubt it was the total cause of death. I ask myself ......"could he have been diabectic and didn't know it" and other questions. I have one grandson that watches his sugar and soda intake....the other one guzzles Mountain Dew and I am hoping he will curtail that soon as it does concern me. All you can do is try to tell them.....teenagers are going to do what they want when mom and dad aren't around. There is no way to avoid it except to teach them about nutrition and hope one day they remember.

@jubilant

Talking about it on the news last night, the recommended amount of caffeine for teens should not exceed 100 mg per day. That kid ingested over 600 mg of caffeine in just a few hours!

Just fyi ..... a 12 oz can of Mountain Dew has 54 mg of caffeine! This is less about nutrition, and more about careless behavior. I hope you talk to him about this. JMO

************* I have mentioned it to him several times. He has been doing this for several years and wondered why he couldn't sleep! He is 23 now and has his own money to buy as much as he wants. My daughter told me a few months ago that he had a trash bag full of pop cans in his closet and she counted about 100 cans! She didn't buy it. I said to her..."Your kidding me"? She said, "No, I'm serious". I could hardly believe it. The last time I talked to him he said he was cutting back. DH used to keep it in our garage refrigerator for him for when he came to do yard work. Now we keep flavored waters and have found a couple he really likes. He likes flavored bottled tea, too. That's not the greatest but it's better than Mountain Dew. Believe me, I am not a fan of soda pop. I gave it up many years ago.

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chrystaltree — Thu, 18 May 2017 13:42:39 GMT

He was downing caffeine drinks for a reason, my only question is why. Is that something kids are doing now for a cheap high? I believe it was a 2 liter bottle of the soda. He was 16, he was no child. If some walked out into the street, directly into a moving car....would we blame the car? We'd only want to know why. As for the reasons for his death, that was a massive amount of cafeine which is a stimulant in short period and that affected his heart rhythm. It certainly can happen to healthy person with not pre existing conditions. Hopefully, his death will serve as warning to others and that parents will have discussion with their kids about this.

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jackthebear — Thu, 18 May 2017 13:47:43 GMT

Mtn dew despite its lemony look has always had the highest amount of caffeine for soda

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Trinity11 — Thu, 18 May 2017 13:48:05 GMT

Was an autopsy done? Because until one is done, I highly doubt this child didn't have an underlying unidentified health issue.

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sfnative — Fri, 19 May 2017 18:35:58 GMT

@Trinity11 wrote:
Was an autopsy done? Because until one is done, I highly doubt this child didn't have an underlying unidentified health issue.

@Trinity11

Considering the intake of approximately 600mg of caffeine, my mind automatically wanders into the life of a 16 year old. I wonder about the stressors in his life and the stress hormones possibly being released by his body and the effects of these on his body, in addition to the caffeine.

He did not have to have pre-existing pathologies to succumb to tachycardia and arrythmias to the extent that his heart simply stopped.

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SFGIANTSGIRL — Sat, 20 May 2017 13:53:06 GMT

@Mz iMac wrote:
Healthy student, 16, collapses and dies from heart problems after drinking a large Mountain Dew, a latte and an energy drink in the space of two hours

FULL ARTICLE LINK

Thank You for posting this. I don't think this is about getting government involved in studies or anything like that. This is about parental responsibility in discussing this with your teen.

I have a 16 year old boy, who goes to the gym 5 times a week, runs 5Ks with me and has a conditioning class at school. This opened up the discussion about the dangers of caffine loading and just gave him info in general. Just something to think about and caution him of prior to his workouts.

Deb