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Bone broth, ANYONE???

sarahpanda — Mon, 08 May 2017 19:43:57 GMT

I would like to know if anyone drinks bone broth and if so, how have you seen the benefits in your health? Thanks in advance.

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sidsmom — Mon, 08 May 2017 20:19:53 GMT

High lead concentrations are usually in bones....

even organic, grass fed animals.

Not the 'miracle' food low carb folks want you to believe.

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dex — Mon, 08 May 2017 20:46:25 GMT

@sidsmom I didn't know about the lead...thought organic homemade would be a great nutritional snack.

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beckyb1012 — Mon, 08 May 2017 20:55:46 GMT

A couple of years back we had a thread going in kitchen or recipes and I think @VaBelle35 had a recipe and she had made it. Maybe if she sees this she will respond. I think she saw benefits of it but this was a while back and my memory.........

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sidsmom — Mon, 08 May 2017 21:01:01 GMT

@dex

Bioaccumulatation.

The bones are from the cow

who ate the grain

which came from the grass

which was grown in the dirt

which had the water

etc etc etc.

Toxic material with any one of those stops would be bad,

but begin to bioaccumulate them in the skeleton of the animal...

and you have a very concentrated toxic brew.

Think of it as 'one bad apple ruins the whole bunch.'

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SilleeMee — Mon, 08 May 2017 21:41:17 GMT

So if bone broth is really not good to consume, what would be a good alternative? @sidsmom

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x Hedge — Mon, 08 May 2017 22:26:40 GMT

Think back ... people unable to summon a doctor. Or, accidents and illness before any modern medical treatment was developed.

Beef bone broth was prepared for people so ill and weak they could barely eat or keep food down. Each spoonfull is packed with fatty calories, and a few spoonfulls at a time, several times an hour, might be enough to keep someone alive while the worst of an illness ran its course.

Nowadays most people have phones, transportation, and/or neighbors and are able to get to a hospital, and aren't often nursed through infections, high fevers, etc at home with bone broth.

I see Bone Broth has resurfaced as another 'natural' high priced food fad, and of course, somebody has put a book out touting the benefits.

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sidsmom — Mon, 08 May 2017 22:35:03 GMT

@SilleeMee

Depends on the reasons why people want to drink it.

Animal products are acidic, no fiber, saturated fat...

but the Paleo/Low Carb Community paint it as a magical elixir.

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sidsmom — Mon, 08 May 2017 22:45:22 GMT

@x Hedge wrote:

I see Bone Broth has resurfaced as another 'natural' high priced food fad, and of course, somebody has put a book out touting the benefits.

So much more than that.

Books, blogs, vlogs, all forms of social media..

Even powders & pre-made stocks.

I shudder to think what animal they used to process that stuff.

Oooof.

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x Hedge — Mon, 08 May 2017 22:53:38 GMT

@sidsmom, in an effort to guard against being verbose I decided anyone wanting to Google 'bone broth book' would find the rest of it.

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Hershey2 — Mon, 08 May 2017 23:00:17 GMT

Why not just make soup?

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Carmie — Mon, 08 May 2017 23:31:38 GMT

I have been eating soup made with bones all of my life. I do not buy prepared broth and always make my own. I even freeze it by the gallon to have on hand.

I never really checked on the health benefits, it's just an everyday food for me and my family.

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BadWolf — Mon, 08 May 2017 23:44:30 GMT

I started the Bone Broth Diet approximately one month ago. As promised, I lost 15 lbs in three weeks. As I continue drinking bone broth, I am noticing much nicer skin and more wrinkle reduction than any topical potion I have used in the past. Now, down about 23 lbs and feeling awesome and energetic. I love bone broth, mostly made from my leftover chicken carcasses.

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VaBelle35 — Tue, 09 May 2017 00:15:44 GMT

Yes there was a great thread on this.

For Chicken, I use organic chicken bones. I save up the bones from roast chicken and I make lots of chicken wings.

I make it the same way I make stock. Organic onion, celery and carrots, about 3 of each (I leave them whole). I don't use salt or pepper or any seasonings as the chicken bones and what's left on them is seasoned enough for me.

For beef, I use organic grass fed bones. Same as chicken, I use onions, carrots and celery but I do add some salt and pepper as I buy these bones from a local farm and they are not seasoned (they are raw bones).

I do not roast the bones first, but many do and say it gives it better flavor.

I use filtered/reverse osmosis water that I buy from the local organic grocery store. I have 3 gallon bottles that I refill.

Tosca Reno says she uses about 3lbs of bones per batch, so I try to stick to that general amount. Usually no less than 3lbs.

I have a 6qt and an 8qt crock pot. The 6qt makes about 9 cups and the 8qt makes about 12 cups.

I strain mine through a fine mesh strainer and toss the bones and the veggies.

I only run my bones through once, I know many people run their bones multiple times.

Because of the research paper that was posted/linked to in that original thread, I only cook mine for 24 hours due to possible leaching of lead.

I mainly use it as stock, but I do drink 1/3 cup at night before bed with Marine Collagen and Andrew Lessman's Whey Protein. I sometimes add egg to it (like egg drop soup for a meal replacement).

If I remember anything from that original thread, I'll post it here.

My laptop is running a malware program, so I can't search for the original thread on my kindle.

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Moonchilde — Wed, 10 May 2017 04:31:45 GMT

Regardless of current "look at this new thing!" faddish enthusiasms and uses, the traditional use for such broths has been relatively short term, for the seriously ill and malnourished - not for a yummy everyday diet/lifestyle. Shades of Gwyneth.

I have a family member who recently finished radiation therapy and chemo. He was in severe pain from the simple act of swallowing, even water. Fresh bone broth for a couple of days kept him from being admitted to the hospital for malnutrition and dehydration. He appreciated that. Now that he's slightly better he's no longer thinking "ooh yummy bone broth!" - but it sure served its traditional purpose just as it always has.

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VaBelle35 — Wed, 10 May 2017 09:38:30 GMT

Here is the link I posted in the original thread to the Mark's Daily Apple article which includes a link to the study, a link to the limitations and issues with the study and Mark's take on the whole thing (plus a little potato love for our potato lovers ;o):

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/lead-in-bone-broth-cooked-and-cooled-potatoes-and-stress-strategies/

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sidsmom — Wed, 10 May 2017 12:42:19 GMT

This is one of m.a.n.y. studies & resources cited stating the lead contamination in bone broth is questionable....very questionable.

And most all studies are saying even organic, grass fed animal bones

are showing levels of lead contamination. Bioaccumulation occurs everywhere.

Mountains of evidence against...but a blogger says it's ok. ?

Makes me sad. Heart disease, diabetes, auto-immune diseases

and other modern day illnesses don't start overnight, but the

glamourization of animal, animal byproducts & oils are what is making & keeping people sick.

@Moonchilde brought up a good point. I'm not advocating ingesting animal in any form or fashion, but if you do...especially the concentration of bones...it should be a once-in-a-blue-moon practice...not an everyday event.

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Nomorebirthdays — Wed, 10 May 2017 21:51:00 GMT

@BadWolf. Do you also make beef broth? Any recipes to share? Do you ever mix chicken bones and beef bones? If I make will use crock pot.

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Snoopp — Thu, 11 May 2017 12:10:23 GMT

My butcher shop sells bone broth. My doctor recommends it too.

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esmeraldagooch — Thu, 11 May 2017 13:29:53 GMT

I bought a jar of powdered chicken bone broth the last time I was at Sprouts. DH has problems with his intestines and I thought it might help my pup who is very ill with a overgrowth of bacteria in his small intestine. I tested it at Sprouts and it did taste great and is an alternative to hot coffee or tea.