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Expert Advice on Windows XP EOL (End Of Life)

Nuttmeg — Mon, 17 Mar 2014 15:11:01 GMT

Windows XP is leaving April 2014. No more security window updates.

http://techtalk.pcpitstop.com/2014/03/13/expert-advice-windows-xp-eol/

Re: Expert Advice on Windows XP EOL (End Of Life)

Akane — Mon, 17 Mar 2014 15:33:48 GMT

I built my own computer and purchased Windows 7 from newegg.com a few months ago in anticipation of this. I've been upgrading parts individually over the years but never took the plunge on the OS.

I bought a brand new 1 TB hard drive, installed Windows 7 on it, and just connected my old hard drive as the secondary drive to move files over at my leisure.

Re: Expert Advice on Windows XP EOL (End Of Life)

nomless — Mon, 17 Mar 2014 15:44:59 GMT

I dealt with this problem last week. My computer (and probably yours) didn't have the hardware necessary to run Win 8 or even Win 7. So, I bought a new computer loaded with Win 8.

I also got books on Win 8 and I spent last week reading through them and familiarizing myself with the differences between Win 8 and the older Win systems.

I booted and configured my new Win 8 computer on Saturday with no problems. And, I love Win 8. I find it very easy to use. I'm so glad I did some reading about Win 8 ahead of time. It made the switch so much easier.

I chose a laptop with a touch screen, and I'm glad I did. Touch screen in some places is much easier than mousing around. You don't need a touch screen, everything can be done by mouse, but touch is easier.

I really don't think there are any alternatives except to switch to Win 8 and that probably means a new computer. You can go to the Microsoft Win 8 page and check to see if your computer can run Win 8, but chances are it won't be able to. When I ran the check, I got a list of about 50+ things I had to upgrade or change. It was easier to buy another computer.

But now, I'm glad I did. The new one is tons of fun. New computer that meets was needs was inexpensive, < $400

Re: Expert Advice on Windows XP EOL (End Of Life)

straykatz — Mon, 17 Mar 2014 20:21:10 GMT

WinXP will still run without them....I actually turned off the security updates on my WinXP computer because it was always causing my computer to freeze/lockup after their update...that computer is old but still works great...I did break down and got a newer PC last November for gaming but my old WinXP still works great for basic word/excel files, pictures, etc.

My old PC would have run Windows7 32 bit if I updraged it but not 64bit so I opted to get the newer PC while I was still able to buy one with Wondows 7 on it.

Re: Expert Advice on Windows XP EOL (End Of Life)

LilacTree — Mon, 17 Mar 2014 20:38:00 GMT

Windows XP was their best OS and will never be topped. I ran two network servers and 36 workstations with that OS for many years and if there was a problem, it was never XP.

Vista was a disaster, and it has been ever since. Their new operating systems are for the neophytes who know nothing about real computing and they get worse and worse. Sometimes it's not a better way to go to cater to the lowest common denominator.

[No insult meant to those who love the simple touch screen, etc. technology. I am an old fogie who taught myself DOS in 1980. Windows was hard enough to adjust to, but I got to like XP, it was necessary once we were running networks. However, I enjoyed having only to update my two network servers instead of having to update 36 workstations every time there was a program update on any of our programs and missed my DOS menus for a long time.]

Just an old lady babbling.

Re: Expert Advice on Windows XP EOL (End Of Life)

Nuttmeg — Mon, 17 Mar 2014 22:14:04 GMT

On 3/17/2014 straykatz said:
WinXP will still run without them....I actually turned off the security updates on my WinXP computer because it was always causing my computer to freeze/lockup after their update...that computer is old but still works great...I did break down and got a newer PC last November for gaming but my old WinXP still works great for basic word/excel files, pictures, etc.

My old PC would have run Windows7 32 bit if I updraged it but not 64bit so I opted to get the newer PC while I was still able to buy one with Wondows 7 on it.

It is suggested you disconnect your Window XP machine from the internet.

Re: Expert Advice on Windows XP EOL (End Of Life)

Lynnj — Tue, 18 Mar 2014 05:26:06 GMT

On 3/17/2014 straykatz said:
WinXP will still run without them....I actually turned off the security updates on my WinXP computer because it was always causing my computer to freeze/lockup after their update...that computer is old but still works great...I did break down and got a newer PC last November for gaming but my old WinXP still works great for basic word/excel files, pictures, etc.

My old PC would have run Windows7 32 bit if I updraged it but not 64bit so I opted to get the newer PC while I was still able to buy one with Wondows 7 on it.

I wouldn't use that computer to go on the internet without your security updates. I guess it would be okay to use for pictures, excel, and word...but don't access the internet with any of that stuff. But if you use email or go online anywhere you will be at serious risk for virus and hackers. I couldn't tell by what you wrote if you knew this, so thought I would mention it.

Re: Expert Advice on Windows XP EOL (End Of Life)

betteb — Tue, 18 Mar 2014 05:33:34 GMT

My old netbook runs XP. I will use it til it dies, without the updates.

I while back, I bought a full size laptop, while I could still get one with Windows 7. I am hoping by the time I need something else, they will have done away with Windows 8.

Re: Expert Advice on Windows XP EOL (End Of Life)

Nuttmeg — Tue, 18 Mar 2014 11:21:15 GMT

On 3/17/2014 betteb said:
My old netbook runs XP. I will use it til it dies, without the updates.

I while back, I bought a full size laptop, while I could still get one with Windows 7. I am hoping by the time I need something else, they will have done away with Windows 8.

You are setting yourself up for possible identify thief. The article I posted above is one in a series from last week. http://techtalk.pcpitstop.com/2014/03/12/windows-xpocalypse/ .

Re: Expert Advice on Windows XP EOL (End Of Life)

jackthebear — Tue, 18 Mar 2014 11:31:41 GMT

Thanks

Now perhaps my spouse will listen to me and get a new computer!

Re: Expert Advice on Windows XP EOL (End Of Life)

Sooner — Tue, 18 Mar 2014 12:48:39 GMT

On 3/17/2014 Ford1224 said:
Windows XP was their best OS and will never be topped. I ran two network servers and 36 workstations with that OS for many years and if there was a problem, it was never XP.

Vista was a disaster, and it has been ever since. Their new operating systems are for the neophytes who know nothing about real computing and they get worse and worse. Sometimes it's not a better way to go to cater to the lowest common denominator.

[No insult meant to those who love the simple touch screen, etc. technology. I am an old fogie who taught myself DOS in 1980. Windows was hard enough to adjust to, but I got to like XP, it was necessary once we were running networks. However, I enjoyed having only to update my two network servers instead of having to update 36 workstations every time there was a program update on any of our programs and missed my DOS menus for a long time.]

Just an old lady babbling.

Another old lady of the DOS vintage! LOL!! You are right about Windows. We are in the process of making the leap to Apple. We've run Windows for work for these many years and don't see a need for it in retirement years.

On another note, at the local mall, the Microsoft store almost always has more employees than customers and Apple is jam packed. Not to start an argument here, but making observations. We are going to get a cheap PC to run the router--maybe, or jump ship totally in the next couple of months. I'm saying from my beloved Apple Mac Book Air!

Re: Expert Advice on Windows XP EOL (End Of Life)

betteb — Tue, 18 Mar 2014 14:29:16 GMT

On 3/18/2014 nutmeg3 said:
On 3/17/2014 betteb said:
My old netbook runs XP. I will use it til it dies, without the updates.

I while back, I bought a full size laptop, while I could still get one with Windows 7. I am hoping by the time I need something else, they will have done away with Windows 8.

You are setting yourself up for possible identify thief. The article I posted above is one in a series from last week. http://techtalk.pcpitstop.com/2014/03/12/windows-xpocalypse/ .

There is no personal info on it. I just use it for browsing, etc. Not for financial transactions.

Re: Expert Advice on Windows XP EOL (End Of Life)

Akane — Tue, 18 Mar 2014 14:31:30 GMT

On 3/18/2014 betteb said:
On 3/18/2014 nutmeg3 said:
On 3/17/2014 betteb said:
My old netbook runs XP. I will use it til it dies, without the updates.

I while back, I bought a full size laptop, while I could still get one with Windows 7. I am hoping by the time I need something else, they will have done away with Windows 8.

You are setting yourself up for possible identify thief. The article I posted above is one in a series from last week. http://techtalk.pcpitstop.com/2014/03/12/windows-xpocalypse/ .

There is no personal info on it. I just use it for browsing, etc. Not for financial transactions.

Do you login to websites? Buy anything online?

Re: Expert Advice on Windows XP EOL (End Of Life)

Nuttmeg — Tue, 18 Mar 2014 15:39:01 GMT

On 3/18/2014 Bikkie said:
On 3/18/2014 betteb said:
On 3/18/2014 nutmeg3 said:
On 3/17/2014 betteb said:
My old netbook runs XP. I will use it til it dies, without the updates.

I while back, I bought a full size laptop, while I could still get one with Windows 7. I am hoping by the time I need something else, they will have done away with Windows 8.

You are setting yourself up for possible identify thief. The article I posted above is one in a series from last week. http://techtalk.pcpitstop.com/2014/03/12/windows-xpocalypse/ .

There is no personal info on it. I just use it for browsing, etc. Not for financial transactions.

Do you login to websites? Buy anything online?

An infected netbook can spread a virus into your network, and infect your Window 7 machine. You may want to buy a nice tablet.

Re: Expert Advice on Windows XP EOL (End Of Life)

betteb — Tue, 18 Mar 2014 15:48:21 GMT

On 3/18/2014 Bikkie said:
On 3/18/2014 betteb said:
On 3/18/2014 nutmeg3 said:
On 3/17/2014 betteb said:
My old netbook runs XP. I will use it til it dies, without the updates.

I while back, I bought a full size laptop, while I could still get one with Windows 7. I am hoping by the time I need something else, they will have done away with Windows 8.

You are setting yourself up for possible identify thief. The article I posted above is one in a series from last week. http://techtalk.pcpitstop.com/2014/03/12/windows-xpocalypse/ .

There is no personal info on it. I just use it for browsing, etc. Not for financial transactions.

Do you login to websites? Buy anything online?

Not on the netbook. I just keep it handy to check the weather, look at an item online, etc. I never entered any financial info, never use it to complete a transaction and it's not networked.

It's too heavy to carry around out and about. It's just still around until I finally get off the fence on a tablet, LOL

Re: Expert Advice on Windows XP EOL (End Of Life)

kittykatkay — Wed, 19 Mar 2014 02:47:53 GMT

N/M....I called my Comcast Cable Co., and they said I will still be supported even though I have XP. I have Norton Antivirus with them. My post # 28 in detail. I feel much better about this.

Re: Expert Advice on Windows XP EOL (End Of Life)

Lynnj — Wed, 19 Mar 2014 04:30:21 GMT

On 3/18/2014 kittykatkay said:
If a poster by the name of FREE SPIRIT comes on here....or anyone that can help me....

Please look on the thread in Electronics, entitled "Might Need A New Computer - Any Thoughts on an All in one desktop". Free Spirit gave some advice on posters with XP (her post number is #39) and I am post # 40 with questions about this.

Can someone go over and read and help? Thank you.

I tried my best to answer on the other thread. I think if you continue use the computer with XP after they discontinue the system security updates you will leave yourself vulnerable.

Re: Expert Advice on Windows XP EOL (End Of Life)

elruth — Wed, 19 Mar 2014 05:47:00 GMT

I am not an expert but this is what I learned from my nephew whose job is working on computers etc. We had 2 computers, 1 desktop and 1 lap top that had XP. He warned us about the No security info. We bought 2 new computers. Desktop and laptop both have Windows 8. We bought them from Best Buy and signed up for Geek Squad. They came out and installed the new computers and gave us a lesson in how to use Windows 8. I have called them a couple of times as the help line is open 24/ 7. You have to pay for this any time help.

If you keep one computer that has XP and have one that has something newer like Windows 7, 8, the XP version can infect your other computer if you have a router to both computers. I at first missed my XP ( especially Outlook Express ) but now I have peace of mind. To those who are afraid to adjust to Windows 8, let me tell you it is possible to teach an old dog new tricks. I spent hrs teaching myself after reading educational info on the internet, watching UTubes on how to use Windows 8. I am 74 and my husband is 83 and now after a couple of weeks, we are quite adept at navigating Windows 8. It really helped to have the Geek Squad man set it up. There is a way to do it so you don't have all the tiles and can have the icons ala Windows XP.

Re: Expert Advice on Windows XP EOL (End Of Life)

ennui1 — Wed, 19 Mar 2014 05:58:25 GMT

End of life? Seriously?

Have you considered hospice? Morphine? Methadone? Atrepine?

It's a machine.

Re: Expert Advice on Windows XP EOL (End Of Life)

Mindy D — Wed, 19 Mar 2014 06:35:24 GMT

Buy a printer now, if you need to. You can still download drivers in the MS website. The cheap HP TSV from a few weeks ago will work. That way you can get a printer, because the printers coming out in the near future won't be compatible with XP. Maybe some of the antivirus companies will still work with protecting XP.