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Gardenman

LilacTree — Sun, 04 Jun 2017 14:53:55 GMT

Thought I would go to the expert. Hope I can explain this correctly.

We have Comcast Xfinity. We recently decided to add Netflix. For that we needed two new routers. The main router is in my daughter's bedroom and doesn't need to be changed.

We were fine with that being the master router until we switched out the other two routers we need to get Netflix.

Since doing so two days ago, I get error messages on my TV every day and cannot access any programming at all. They have sent signals to my router, which fail. No TV, period.

We finally found out that my daughter turns off her main router every night because she fears EMF. So because that's off, the other routers do not work and signals from Comcast do nothing. In short, the main router has to be on at all times.

I wake early and like to watch the news. She sleeps very late, sometimes all day because she feels sick (Lyme Disease). She gets very annoyed when I ask her to turn the main router back on in the morning.

Do you think I can switch her router to my bedroom so I have control over the system, or do I have to have Comcast come out and do it? My problems are mostly physical in trying to do this. But I would try it if I thought it would work.

Last question: I would then also have to change within Netflix which room contains the master router, right?

I hope I have made myself clear. And thank you for reading.

Re: Gardenman

gardenman — Sun, 04 Jun 2017 15:26:22 GMT

You should be able to move the boxes around with no big problem. Just unplug the coaxial cable where it goes into the box and unplug the box from the outlet and move it to the other location and plug in the other coaxial cable and then plug the box back into the outlet. I have their X1 box in my bedroom and two digital adapters in other rooms and I'll move the X1 box around from time to time if I want to watch something On Demand in a different spot. It's not a big deal.

It can get confusing with cable equipment and terminology. I have a gateway, an X1 box and two digital adapters here. The gateway is technically a router/modem/phone hub. The X1 box is basically a minicomputer dressed up like a cable box. The digital adapters are just fancy set-top boxes that can decode the digital signals for the TV. Mine are all wired together. Nowadays companies are moving to wireless cable boxes where you have one base unit and everything else gets a signal off of that. (DISH Network has their Wireless Joey for example and U-Verse has had wireless cable boxes since 2011.) I don't think my local Comcast has any wireless boxes that use WiFi but it's possible yours does. It kind of sounds like that's what you've got going on. When your daughter shuts off the base unit there's no signal for the other units to pick up. As long as you have a working cable outlet where you want the base unit, you should be fine moving it there and plugging it in. Your daughter can then turn her unit on or off without it affecting anything else.

Re: Gardenman

hckynut — Sun, 04 Jun 2017 16:04:26 GMT

@gardenman

I understand everything you said in your post. My confusion is this. What happens if the Main Box is left on 24/7 , regardless of where it is placed? @LilacTree says her daughter does not want this box left on, why is that and how does that effect her sleep or rest?

We have Dish Network with a Hopper 3 with a Joey in 2 rooms. The Joey device connects by wifi, with everything connected to the Hopper 3 , including my 1tb external hard drive. I can place the Hopper 3 in any of the rooms, but not without Dish Network resetting which room in which the Hopper 3 is placed.

I am missing something here. What I do with the Hopper 3 in our main viewing room, has no bearing on the Joey. One exception, if I reset the Hopper3, it does effect all programming on all the units, until the reset has been completed. That is the only thing were the Hopper 3 controls viewing on either Joey.

@LilacTree what is the meaning of EMF?

hckynut(john)

Re: Gardenman

LilacTree — Sun, 04 Jun 2017 16:38:27 GMT

@gardenman wrote:
You should be able to move the boxes around with no big problem. Just unplug the coaxial cable where it goes into the box and unplug the box from the outlet and move it to the other location and plug in the other coaxial cable and then plug the box back into the outlet. I have their X1 box in my bedroom and two digital adapters in other rooms and I'll move the X1 box around from time to time if I want to watch something On Demand in a different spot. It's not a big deal.

It can get confusing with cable equipment and terminology. I have a gateway, an X1 box and two digital adapters here. The gateway is technically a router/modem/phone hub. The X1 box is basically a minicomputer dressed up like a cable box. The digital adapters are just fancy set-top boxes that can decode the digital signals for the TV. Mine are all wired together. Nowadays companies are moving to wireless cable boxes where you have one base unit and everything else gets a signal off of that. (DISH Network has their Wireless Joey for example and U-Verse has had wireless cable boxes since 2011.) I don't think my local Comcast has any wireless boxes that use WiFi but it's possible yours does. It kind of sounds like that's what you've got going on. When your daughter shuts off the base unit there's no signal for the other units to pick up. As long as you have a working cable outlet where you want the base unit, you should be fine moving it there and plugging it in. Your daughter can then turn her unit on or off without it affecting anything else.

@gardenman

Yes, we have Comcast WiFi wireless cable here (Philly area). It is part of the modem. My problem is the physicality of it . . . I understand your instructions and it sounds simple.

Years ago when I was young and strong, I used to put computer systems together. Nowadays, I can hardly twist the knob on my bedroom light to turn it on and off!

Do I have to worry about electricity when I take the coaxial cables off and plug them back in? They are the larger, thicker wires with the gold ends, right? The second wire attaches to the TV. I don't need to pull that one out of the router. I know the third small round wire is for the electrical connection and I'm familiar with that one.

As soon as my daughter wakes up I will try this and keep you advised.

Thanks so much.

Re: Gardenman

gardenman — Sun, 04 Jun 2017 16:11:12 GMT

@LilacTree wrote:
@gardenman wrote:
You should be able to move the boxes around with no big problem. Just unplug the coaxial cable where it goes into the box and unplug the box from the outlet and move it to the other location and plug in the other coaxial cable and then plug the box back into the outlet. I have their X1 box in my bedroom and two digital adapters in other rooms and I'll move the X1 box around from time to time if I want to watch something On Demand in a different spot. It's not a big deal.

It can get confusing with cable equipment and terminology. I have a gateway, an X1 box and two digital adapters here. The gateway is technically a router/modem/phone hub. The X1 box is basically a minicomputer dressed up like a cable box. The digital adapters are just fancy set-top boxes that can decode the digital signals for the TV. Mine are all wired together. Nowadays companies are moving to wireless cable boxes where you have one base unit and everything else gets a signal off of that. (DISH Network has their Wireless Joey for example and U-Verse has had wireless cable boxes since 2011.) I don't think my local Comcast has any wireless boxes that use WiFi but it's possible yours does. It kind of sounds like that's what you've got going on. When your daughter shuts off the base unit there's no signal for the other units to pick up. As long as you have a working cable outlet where you want the base unit, you should be fine moving it there and plugging it in. Your daughter can then turn her unit on or off without it affecting anything else.
@gardenman
Yes, we have Comcast WiFi wireless cable here (Philly area). It is part of the modem. My problem is the physicality of it . . . I understand your instructions and it sounds simple.

Years ago when I was young and strong, I used to put computer systems together. Nowadays, I can hardly twist the knob on my bedroom light to turn it on and off!

Do I have to worry about electricity when I take the coaxial cables off and plug them back in? They are the larger, thicker wires with the gold ends, right? The third wire attaches to the TV. I don't need to pull that one out of the router. I know the third small round wire is for the electrical connection and I'm familiar with that one.

As soon as my daughter wakes up I will try this and keep you advised.

Thanks so much.

There are no worries about the electricity from the coax cables. It's insignificant.

Re: Gardenman

LilacTree — Sun, 04 Jun 2017 16:14:52 GMT

@hckynut wrote:

@gardenman

I understand everything you said in your post. My confusion is this. What happens if the Main Box is left on 24/7 , regardless of where it is placed? @LilacTree says her daughter does not want this box left on, why is that and how does that effect her sleep or rest?

We have Dish Network with a Hopper 3 with a Joey in 2 rooms. The Joey device connects by wifi, with everything connected to the Hopper 3 , including my 1tb external hard drive. I can place the Hopper 3 in any of the rooms, but not without Dish Network resetting which room in which the Hopper 3 is placed.

I am missing something here. What I do with the Hopper 3 in our main viewing room, has no bearing on the Joey. One exception, if I reset the Hopper3, it does effect all programming on all the units, until the reset has been completed. That is the only thing were the Hopper 3 controls viewing on either Joey.

@LilacTree what is the meaning of EMF?

hckynut(john)

@hckynut

EMF is "electro-magnetic field." She is very wary of being exposed to it (although she uses her smart phone all the time). Otherwise, I don't think the main router ever has to be turned off. You guys can check me on that.

Re: Gardenman

LilacTree — Sun, 04 Jun 2017 16:36:56 GMT

@gardenman wrote:
@LilacTree wrote:
@gardenman wrote:
You should be able to move the boxes around with no big problem. Just unplug the coaxial cable where it goes into the box and unplug the box from the outlet and move it to the other location and plug in the other coaxial cable and then plug the box back into the outlet. I have their X1 box in my bedroom and two digital adapters in other rooms and I'll move the X1 box around from time to time if I want to watch something On Demand in a different spot. It's not a big deal.

It can get confusing with cable equipment and terminology. I have a gateway, an X1 box and two digital adapters here. The gateway is technically a router/modem/phone hub. The X1 box is basically a minicomputer dressed up like a cable box. The digital adapters are just fancy set-top boxes that can decode the digital signals for the TV. Mine are all wired together. Nowadays companies are moving to wireless cable boxes where you have one base unit and everything else gets a signal off of that. (DISH Network has their Wireless Joey for example and U-Verse has had wireless cable boxes since 2011.) I don't think my local Comcast has any wireless boxes that use WiFi but it's possible yours does. It kind of sounds like that's what you've got going on. When your daughter shuts off the base unit there's no signal for the other units to pick up. As long as you have a working cable outlet where you want the base unit, you should be fine moving it there and plugging it in. Your daughter can then turn her unit on or off without it affecting anything else.
@gardenman
Yes, we have Comcast WiFi wireless cable here (Philly area). It is part of the modem. My problem is the physicality of it . . . I understand your instructions and it sounds simple.

Years ago when I was young and strong, I used to put computer systems together. Nowadays, I can hardly twist the knob on my bedroom light to turn it on and off!

Do I have to worry about electricity when I take the coaxial cables off and plug them back in? They are the larger, thicker wires with the gold ends, right? The third wire attaches to the TV. I don't need to pull that one out of the router. I know the third small round wire is for the electrical connection and I'm familiar with that one.

As soon as my daughter wakes up I will try this and keep you advised.

Thanks so much.
There are no worries about the electricity from the coax cables. It's insignificant.

@gardenman

Thanks again. Now I have to wait until she gets up. I'm looking forward to trying this.

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hckynut — Sun, 04 Jun 2017 17:01:55 GMT

Hello @LilacTree

Thank you for deciphering this for me. Too many LETTERS(initials) around these days for me. Most I just let pass by unless it is in a topic of interest to me.

I have been reading some of your posts in the Wellness Forum and it seems like I have seen a few positives lately from some of your tests. Sure hope some of the many issues with which you are dealing are at least getting a bit better. Thoughts always coming to both you and your daughter.

Been saying here and to anyone in my real life that asks: "How are you doing"? My response has been and still is GREAT. I have not felt this good, nor been in this excellent of physical fitness for over 8-10 years now.

Been able to stay away from major setbacks on my journeys to fitness, as in the past years. I always work on recovering some measure of my past physical fitness, but each time I would really be making progress! BAM!! Another major issue would hit me. Not so this time and I am enjoying feeling like I did when I was close to my prime physical and mental fitness levels.

Took some drastic changes for me, things I thought might work, but wasn't sure. My wife thinks I was/am nuts, but all my blood/heart and pulmonary functions have gotten better? Won't mention what it is because it just might not be healthy for others should they decide to give it a go.

Always remember I will be around if there is anything I can do to make your life easier, just ask. Say hello to your daughter and wish her the best from me?

Your cyber-friend,

JOhn

Re: Gardenman

LilacTree — Sun, 04 Jun 2017 17:15:14 GMT

@hckynut wrote:

Hello @LilacTree

Thank you for deciphering this for me. Too many LETTERS(initials) around these days for me. Most I just let pass by unless it is in a topic of interest to me.

I have been reading some of your posts in the Wellness Forum and it seems like I have seen a few positives lately from some of your tests. Sure hope some of the many issues with which you are dealing are at least getting a bit better. Thoughts always coming to both you and your daughter.

Been saying here and to anyone in my real life that asks: "How are you doing"? My response has been and still is GREAT. I have not felt this good, nor been in this excellent of physical fitness for over 8-10 years now.

Been able to stay away from major setbacks on my journeys to fitness, as in the past years. I always work on recovering some measure of my past physical fitness, but each time I would really be making progress! BAM!! Another major issue would hit me. Not so this time and I am enjoying feeling like I did when I was close to my prime physical and mental fitness levels.

Took some drastic changes for me, things I thought might work, but wasn't sure. My wife thinks I was/am nuts, but all my blood/heart and pulmonary functions have gotten better? Won't mention what it is because it just might not be healthy for others should they decide to give it a go.

Always remember I will be around if there is anything I can do to make your life easier, just ask. Say hello to your daughter and wish her the best from me?

Your cyber-friend,

JOhn

@hckynut

John, I didn't know what it meant either, so no sweat. Once she told me, however, I do remember hearing about it from time to time, especially when cell phones were always held at the ear. The EMF from the cell phone was thought to have a negative effect on the brain. I don't know where we stand on that these days.

I only use a cell phone for texting, not talking, but I do have a lot of stuff in my bedroom, so maybe I'm getting poisoned for all I know . . . from what my daughter says. At this stage of the game, I refuse to worry about it.

As I'm sure you realize, having somewhere around ten CT scans, at least five or six MRIs, multiple x-rays, etc., I think probably EMFs are the least of my worries.

Glad you are feeling like a new man again (GREAT!). I'll let you know when I can say that again! ~Ford

Re: Gardenman

gabstoomuch — Sun, 04 Jun 2017 18:05:03 GMT

@hckynutJohn, what a nice post to Ford. You are such a kind man. I am very, very happy you are feeling better. Sounds like being your own advocate for your health is working. I find that taking care of one's own health by trying different things is the way to go. (along with regular Dr care).

@LilacTree, swapping those two units out seems like the way to go. The main box will give you so much more to watch. If your daughter sleeps a lot (and bless her heart, Lyme is very real, and very dibilitating ), then to put it in the room where you are certainly makes sense.

It is not hard. Just study the wires before you take it apart, so you just set it up the same way on your TV.

Putting the add-on box into your daughters room is simple also.

Once you get it set up, if you have any problem, just call Comcast and press the # that says "refresh my signal". Refreshing usually clears up anything.

I think of your daughter often. I have a friend who was as sick as she is, and she finally gave up on Drs, as they truly do not know how to treat it. She join some bee venom groups on FB, and began educating herself on bee venum therapy. It is an "out there" treatment, but the health improvements are nothing short of miraculous. It is cheap too. Maybe your daughter would be interested in researching bee venum therapy. There are groups on Facebook if she is just curious enough to join and read others posts and begin to get an understanding of just what it is. My friend has gone from bedridden to being able to care for her 4 children again. Just throwing it out there for you

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LilacTree — Sun, 04 Jun 2017 18:19:52 GMT

@gabstoomuch wrote:
@hckynutJohn, what a nice post to Ford. You are such a kind man. I am very, very happy you are feeling better. Sounds like being your own advocate for your health is working. I find that taking care of one's own health by trying different things is the way to go. (along with regular Dr care).

@LilacTree, swapping those two units out seems like the way to go. The main box will give you so much more to watch. If your daughter sleeps a lot (and bless her heart, Lyme is very real, and very dibilitating ), then to put it in the room where you are certainly makes sense.

It is not hard. Just study the wires before you take it apart, so you just set it up the same way on your TV.

Putting the add-on box into your daughters room is simple also.

Once you get it set up, if you have any problem, just call Comcast and press the # that says "refresh my signal". Refreshing usually clears up anything.

I think of your daughter often. I have a friend who was as sick as she is, and she finally gave up on Drs, as they truly do not know how to treat it. She join some bee venom groups on FB, and began educating herself on bee venum therapy. It is an "out there" treatment, but the health improvements are nothing short of miraculous. It is cheap too. Maybe your daughter would be interested in researching bee venum therapy. There are groups on Facebook if she is just curious enough to join and read others posts and begin to get an understanding of just what it is. My friend has gone from bedridden to being able to care for her 4 children again. Just throwing it out there for you

@gabstoomuch

Thank you for the info . . . I will mention it to my daughter. However, she's usually way ahead of me on anything regarding Lyme. I have even read about the bee venom possibility myself, but don't know what she thinks, or what to believe anymore. She is very active online with many groups. My newsfeed on FB (which I wish I could get rid of) shows many Lyme discussions and I see my daughter's name often.

You are certainly right about the doctors. My gastro doc, who I used to love, is very caustic about it existing in a chronic form. I never talk about my daughter anymore when I see him.

All of her money goes to docs and meds that insurance will not pay for. Right now she is on IV supplements once a week. She pays the doctor several hundred a week for these treatments, and then he sends her a bill for $1,000!! When she asked him why the extra bill, he told her the weekly payments do not represent the entire cost. The treatments have helped though, and she's back on doxycycline. Her attitude is this is her life now, 30+ more years of it.

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gabstoomuch — Sun, 04 Jun 2017 19:31:49 GMT

That is so sad. There are thousands and thousands suffering with Lyme.

Functional doctors seem to have a good handle on it, but they are very expensive, as very few take any kind of insurance. They can charge thousands because they know regular Dr's are not knowledgeable, nor will they treat it, so there is a bit of price gouging going on.

I am sorry she is feeling like this is her life now. It does take an aggressive treatment plan, and it does take a long time, but a better quality of life is possible. I know my friend spent thousands to get a "teeny" bit better.

That is when she went to bee venom. The bees are cheap. It does require 2 or more years for it to work, so that in itself can be an overwhelming thought. I know she had no option, she has 4 school age kids. She had to quit her job, so her family went down to one income. It has been a grueling 3 years for her, but she has finally taken back her health and is able to care for her children.

I really do think of your daughter often. I don't even know her, but I believe the level of suffering she is enduring. Just being believed for a Lyme person is a feat in itself.

I just do not understand why the CDC barely recognizes it and puts very little research into it. I think it is going to be one of those diseases like Fibromyalgia. No one believed that was real either back in the late 90's. Now it is on the list of accepted conditions for disability, even though they have not come far with any treatment. At least they finally believe it is real. Lyme will probably be the same way, unfortunately.

Re: Gardenman

Lilysmom — Sun, 04 Jun 2017 20:50:11 GMT

@LilacTree, before you remove any cables, take a photo with your phone or iPad of the setup and where wires are plugged into the device. When you set it up in your room, you can use the photo as a guide to what gets plugged into what. Good luck! LM

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Lilysmom — Sun, 04 Jun 2017 20:51:27 GMT

@hckynut, great to hear you are feeling so well. I hope it lasts a good long time! LM

Re: Gardenman

LilacTree — Sun, 04 Jun 2017 22:30:57 GMT

@gardenman

Just to let you and everyone else who commented know, my daughter and I were able to solve the TV cable/router problem. She believed the living room TV was probably the best place to put the main router because then neither she or I would have to be disturbed if something were to go wrong.

So that's where we put it, and all three TVs are working great now with no error messages or other issues. We've tested everything.

So thank you for your help. I must admit, my daughter pretty much did everything and, as you said, it was very easy.

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LilacTree — Sun, 04 Jun 2017 22:35:30 GMT

Also thanks to all of you who commented on my daughter's illness and my own, and offered so much information on that as well.

I am so grateful for the many friends I have here. You have no idea how much it means to me.