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    <title>topic Re: TSV MacBook Air in Electronics</title>
    <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Electronics/TSV-MacBook-Air/m-p/3804730#M41577</link>
    <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/112115"&gt;@Cats3000&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#FF0000" size="4"&gt;They show the Operating System as OSX El Capitan. &amp;nbsp;&lt;STRONG&gt;BE CAREFUL!!!!!!&lt;/STRONG&gt; &amp;nbsp;&lt;STRONG&gt;THAT&lt;/STRONG&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;STRONG&gt;IS&lt;/STRONG&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;STRONG&gt;OLD AND OUTDATED!!!!!! &amp;nbsp;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;I have a iMac. &amp;nbsp;I am now on OS Sierra v.10.12.5. &amp;nbsp;The &amp;nbsp;website shows this OS on the MacBook Air, too.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;I looked at the "Software Bundle". &amp;nbsp;It has stuff in it that I'd never use. &amp;nbsp;It has some kind of a "Mac Cleaner", that I'd be very careful of. &amp;nbsp;Mac computers take care of themselves pretty well. &amp;nbsp;I've never had to "clean" anything on any of the ones I've owned.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#008080"&gt;If you did buy the TSV, all you need to do is get into settings and update the operating system.&amp;nbsp; I have a Macbook (2014) and an iMac (2013) and they both have the latest operating system installed.&amp;nbsp; I agree with the others and I wouldn't overpay for an older model.&amp;nbsp; But, you aren't stuck with an older operating system.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2017 10:20:34 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>glb613</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2017-06-01T10:20:34Z</dc:date>
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      <title>TSV MacBook Air</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Electronics/TSV-MacBook-Air/m-p/3802082#M41557</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;They show the Operating System as OSX El Capitan. &amp;nbsp;&lt;STRONG&gt;BE CAREFUL!!!!!!&lt;/STRONG&gt; &amp;nbsp;&lt;STRONG&gt;THAT&lt;/STRONG&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;STRONG&gt;IS&lt;/STRONG&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;STRONG&gt;OLD AND OUTDATED!!!!!! &amp;nbsp;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;I have a iMac. &amp;nbsp;I am now on OS Sierra v.10.12.5. &amp;nbsp;The &amp;nbsp;website shows this OS on the MacBook Air, too.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;I looked at the "Software Bundle". &amp;nbsp;It has stuff in it that I'd never use. &amp;nbsp;It has some kind of a "Mac Cleaner", that I'd be very careful of. &amp;nbsp;Mac computers take care of themselves pretty well. &amp;nbsp;I've never had to "clean" anything on any of the ones I've owned.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 31 May 2017 11:19:10 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Electronics/TSV-MacBook-Air/m-p/3802082#M41557</guid>
      <dc:creator>Cats3000</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-05-31T11:19:10Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: TSV MacBook Air</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Electronics/TSV-MacBook-Air/m-p/3802100#M41558</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;i know i would buy one from the apple store they may cost more but you get the apple care warrenty and people that can help you with your purchase. plus I know for sure as you said they are all outdated same with all the dell and hp computers they sell.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 31 May 2017 11:36:21 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Electronics/TSV-MacBook-Air/m-p/3802100#M41558</guid>
      <dc:creator>tockerman</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-05-31T11:36:21Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: TSV MacBook Air</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Electronics/TSV-MacBook-Air/m-p/3802106#M41559</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3"&gt;You can get the "Air" from Apple for $999. &amp;nbsp;Of course, no "extras", but I wouldn't consider them worthwhile.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3"&gt;And the OS is up-to-date, from Apple. &amp;nbsp;It's pretty easy to upgrade, though.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3"&gt;I just bought a new Mac, so I have been through the run down. &amp;nbsp;The Air hasn't changed in a few years, and may be on the way out. The new "MacBook" seems to be the latest thing, if you are into the latest and greatest slimline laptop.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3"&gt;That said, I love my Air. &amp;nbsp;It is still a nice machine. &amp;nbsp;I really did not see that the new display nor the "improved" touchpad made a huge difference. &amp;nbsp;Not worth hundreds, in my book.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 31 May 2017 11:43:28 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Electronics/TSV-MacBook-Air/m-p/3802106#M41559</guid>
      <dc:creator>Sweetbay magnolia</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-05-31T11:43:28Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: TSV MacBook Air</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Electronics/TSV-MacBook-Air/m-p/3802115#M41560</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;I have yet to compare&amp;nbsp;an electronics item on Q to the same item on the brand's website and find Q selling the&amp;nbsp;current model. &amp;nbsp;It doesn't matter what brand....apple, dell, hp, etc etc, they're all old models. &amp;nbsp; I would never buy electronics from Q.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 31 May 2017 11:51:49 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Electronics/TSV-MacBook-Air/m-p/3802115#M41560</guid>
      <dc:creator>CalminHeart</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-05-31T11:51:49Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: TSV MacBook Air</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Electronics/TSV-MacBook-Air/m-p/3802132#M41561</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3"&gt;The guy selling the Air is stretching the truth, big time. &amp;nbsp;The display is not "retina", unless you evaluate the term and conclude that it cannot be defined.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3"&gt;By Apple's own standards, that display is not top tier (though not bad).&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 31 May 2017 12:06:13 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Electronics/TSV-MacBook-Air/m-p/3802132#M41561</guid>
      <dc:creator>Sweetbay magnolia</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-05-31T12:06:13Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: TSV MacBook Air</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Electronics/TSV-MacBook-Air/m-p/3802150#M41562</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;I looked at the manufacturer's website. &amp;nbsp;The MacBook Air displays on the new ones&amp;nbsp;&lt;STRONG&gt;are not&lt;/STRONG&gt; described as "Retina Displays". If he's using that term, he&amp;nbsp;should'nt be.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 31 May 2017 12:16:01 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Electronics/TSV-MacBook-Air/m-p/3802150#M41562</guid>
      <dc:creator>Cats3000</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-05-31T12:16:01Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: TSV MacBook Air</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Electronics/TSV-MacBook-Air/m-p/3804730#M41577</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/112115"&gt;@Cats3000&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#FF0000" size="4"&gt;They show the Operating System as OSX El Capitan. &amp;nbsp;&lt;STRONG&gt;BE CAREFUL!!!!!!&lt;/STRONG&gt; &amp;nbsp;&lt;STRONG&gt;THAT&lt;/STRONG&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;STRONG&gt;IS&lt;/STRONG&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;STRONG&gt;OLD AND OUTDATED!!!!!! &amp;nbsp;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;I have a iMac. &amp;nbsp;I am now on OS Sierra v.10.12.5. &amp;nbsp;The &amp;nbsp;website shows this OS on the MacBook Air, too.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;I looked at the "Software Bundle". &amp;nbsp;It has stuff in it that I'd never use. &amp;nbsp;It has some kind of a "Mac Cleaner", that I'd be very careful of. &amp;nbsp;Mac computers take care of themselves pretty well. &amp;nbsp;I've never had to "clean" anything on any of the ones I've owned.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#008080"&gt;If you did buy the TSV, all you need to do is get into settings and update the operating system.&amp;nbsp; I have a Macbook (2014) and an iMac (2013) and they both have the latest operating system installed.&amp;nbsp; I agree with the others and I wouldn't overpay for an older model.&amp;nbsp; But, you aren't stuck with an older operating system.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2017 10:20:34 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Electronics/TSV-MacBook-Air/m-p/3804730#M41577</guid>
      <dc:creator>glb613</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-06-01T10:20:34Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: TSV MacBook Air</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Electronics/TSV-MacBook-Air/m-p/3807250#M41588</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;The point is not that you're stuck with an older operating system. &amp;nbsp;The point is that if you're purchasing a new computer, especially a Mac, you expect it to have the latest operating system already loaded.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;I upgraded to OS Sierra on this iMac. &amp;nbsp;It wasn't laborious. &amp;nbsp;It was very time consuming, but I'm glad I took the time to do i t.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 02 Jun 2017 09:39:43 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Electronics/TSV-MacBook-Air/m-p/3807250#M41588</guid>
      <dc:creator>Cats3000</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-06-02T09:39:43Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: TSV MacBook Air</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Electronics/TSV-MacBook-Air/m-p/3807257#M41589</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/112115"&gt;@Cats3000&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;The point is not that you're stuck with an older operating system. &amp;nbsp;The point is that if you're purchasing a new computer, especially a Mac, you expect it to have the latest operating system already loaded.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;I upgraded to OS Sierra on this iMac. &amp;nbsp;It wasn't laborious. &amp;nbsp;It was very time consuming, but I'm glad I took the time to do i t.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#008080"&gt;You can warn people from now until hell freezes over and it isn't going to change a thing.&amp;nbsp; People want EZ pay and there is no way to convince them to save their money or buy on time from Apple.&amp;nbsp; I bet the average uninformed buyer doesn't know or even care they are getting an older model.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#008080"&gt;The point of my post is the let people know you AREN'T stuck with the older operating system.&amp;nbsp; All you need to do is get into settings and update.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 02 Jun 2017 09:55:31 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Electronics/TSV-MacBook-Air/m-p/3807257#M41589</guid>
      <dc:creator>glb613</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-06-02T09:55:31Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: TSV MacBook Air</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Electronics/TSV-MacBook-Air/m-p/3812201#M41633</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Monday morning 10am Apple will announce their new and updated products. That's probably why Qvc had all those Apple Airs on to get rid of them for Apple.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 04 Jun 2017 08:01:42 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Electronics/TSV-MacBook-Air/m-p/3812201#M41633</guid>
      <dc:creator>Sandy W</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-06-04T08:01:42Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: TSV MacBook Air</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Electronics/TSV-MacBook-Air/m-p/3812211#M41635</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;Wasn't aware.&amp;nbsp; Thanks.&amp;nbsp; I'll be on the lookout.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 04 Jun 2017 09:23:29 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Electronics/TSV-MacBook-Air/m-p/3812211#M41635</guid>
      <dc:creator>Cats3000</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-06-04T09:23:29Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: TSV MacBook Air</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Electronics/TSV-MacBook-Air/m-p/3812217#M41636</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/48386"&gt;@Sandy W&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;Monday morning 10am Apple will announce their new and updated products. That's probably why Qvc had all those Apple Airs on to get rid of them for Apple.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#008080"&gt;Smart business move for Apple and QVC.&amp;nbsp; Bad move for the uninformed consumer.&amp;nbsp; Apple computers last long enough, buying an older model at a good price is really a good deal for those who don't have to have the latest model.&amp;nbsp; The key word is GOOD price.&amp;nbsp; That's not what happened here.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 04 Jun 2017 09:57:25 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Electronics/TSV-MacBook-Air/m-p/3812217#M41636</guid>
      <dc:creator>glb613</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-06-04T09:57:25Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: TSV MacBook Air</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Electronics/TSV-MacBook-Air/m-p/3812310#M41637</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;I always buy from the apple store. In the long run even with the money you have to pay its worth it. I do not understand why people would buy the older models with the older technology. Easy pay or not its not worth it.&lt;img id="womansurprised" class="emoticon emoticon-womansurprised" src="https://community.qvc.com/i/smilies/16x16_woman-surprised.png" alt="Woman Surprised" title="Woman Surprised" /&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 04 Jun 2017 12:01:02 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Electronics/TSV-MacBook-Air/m-p/3812310#M41637</guid>
      <dc:creator>apple1964</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-06-04T12:01:02Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: TSV MacBook Air</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Electronics/TSV-MacBook-Air/m-p/3814319#M41661</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I am guessing &amp;nbsp;when you update it it would install the current operating system&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2017 03:58:41 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>kcladyz</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-06-05T03:58:41Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: TSV MacBook Air</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Electronics/TSV-MacBook-Air/m-p/3814448#M41662</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/81901"&gt;@kcladyz&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;I am guessing &amp;nbsp;when you update it it would install the current operating system&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#008080"&gt;Yes.&amp;nbsp; Both of my Apple computers have the latest operating system and they are 2013 (iMac) and 2014 (MacBook Pro) models.&amp;nbsp; Your Apple computer will eventually become too old for updates (my iPad 3 is an good example) but, it takes a while for that to happen.&amp;nbsp; I wouldn't buy an older model of any device no matter how good the price is.&amp;nbsp; Electronics become obsolete fast enough without starting out with an old model.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2017 09:32:06 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Electronics/TSV-MacBook-Air/m-p/3814448#M41662</guid>
      <dc:creator>glb613</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-06-05T09:32:06Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: TSV MacBook Air</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Electronics/TSV-MacBook-Air/m-p/3814850#M41664</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/48386"&gt;@Sandy W&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;Monday morning 10am Apple will announce their new and updated products. That's probably why Qvc had all those Apple Airs on to get rid of them for Apple.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/48386"&gt;@Sandy W&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I plan to purchase my first MacBook soon, probably in late July, so this is good timing for me. I'll be buying mine from Apple.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2017 13:58:37 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Electronics/TSV-MacBook-Air/m-p/3814850#M41664</guid>
      <dc:creator>willdob3</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-06-05T13:58:37Z</dc:date>
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